Democrats and WMDs

[tunaplanet 0]

Hear is what liberals have said about WMDs.



"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

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[pajarito 0]

Tuna: Proliferator of WMD (Words Many times already Distributed)

[DrunkMonkey 0]

Not about WMDs, but about NeoKons:

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We're going to bring back God and the Bible and drive the gods of secular humanism right out of the public schools of America.
-- Pat Buchanan, campaign address at an anti-gay rally in Des Moines, Iowa, February 11, 1996

Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free.
-- Pat Buchanan, speaking before the Christian Coalition in 1993, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

[The courts and the media elite] are abolishing America, they are deconstructing our country ... they have dethroned our God.
-- Pat Buchanan, quoted from Thomas B. Edsall, "Buchanan Declares Culture War," The Washington Post, Sept. 18, 2000

There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours.
-- Pat Buchanan, when discussing race relations in the 1950s, in Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.
-- Pat Buchanan, in a 1977 column, The Guardian, January 14, 1992, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer.
-- Pat Buchanan, Right from the Beginning, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

There ought to be limits to freedom. We're aware of the site, and this guy is just a garbage man.
-- George W. Bush, commenting on the website www.gwbush.com, a parody of his campaign website

I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision.
-- George W. Bush, to ABCNEWS, June, 1999, regarding Ft. Hood's decision to allow Wiccan rituals just as all military bases allow rituals of the Christian faith.

No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.
-- George Bush, to American Atheists' reporter Robert Sherman in 1987, while serving as vice-president

[tunaplanet 0]

So what's your take on it? Let me guess...like the bible it's...

a) All taken out of context
b) How you interpret it.

Right?

Not a whole lot you can do when those quotes are in black and white and impossible to take any other way (unless you're a blind, dedicated sheep).

Can any liberal defend this? If you question the legitimacy I'll be more than happy to link the source to each one in question.

Forty-two

[pajarito 0]

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So what's your take on it? Let me guess...like the bible it's...

a) All taken out of context
b) How you interpret it.

Right?

Not a whole lot you can do when those quotes are in black and white and impossible to take any other way (unless you're a blind, dedicated sheep).

Can any liberal defend this? If you question the legitimacy I'll be more than happy to link the source to each one in question.

Your post was concerning "Democrats and WMD's." Not the Bible. This is the second of your posts that I've noticed today where you've inserted an attack on the Bible with no relation whatsoever to the topic of discussion. It must really bother you. I also wasn't discounting the quotes you posted. I was just saying that we've seen them all here before. It's a repeat. Re-run. You know...like The Brady Bunch. As for the "blind, dedicated sheep" comment, I'd rather be called names of that sort to my face so I can respond appropriately.

[Kennedy 0]

It's much easier to just say "Ivaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn," in such instances. It brings less flmes in response.

However, I am still interested in anyone explaining why Bush was wrong to agree with so many liberals/Democrats.

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[nacmacfeegle 0]

Hmm, I see your "Democrats and WMDs", and raise you a "Republicans and links between Iraq and Al Quaeda...."

"To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two," Rummy.

I'd imagine Bush and Cheney will be less than chuffed with this statement.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[wmw999 2,589]

Rumsfeld has already released a statement saying he was misunderstood.

"ooooh Lord please don't let me
be misunderstood"

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Misunderstood...misunderstood? I'll put it in the same category as "We were misled".

"Mr Rumsfeld was asked by a New York audience about connections between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.
"To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two," he said.".....

Whats to misunderstand about that?

Maybe he's...
" just a soul, who's intentions are good"
.....


See, you and I know the tune, and the lyrics actually fit the situation quite well.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[wmw999 2,589]

Ya know, it's one thing to release a statement saying "I misspoke." That takes responsibility for what was said.

But to say that a statement like that was misunderstood is to lay the responsibility for communication on the listener, not the speaker. In skydiving instructor school, the mantra was always "If the student failed to learn, the instructor failed to teach."

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[kallend 2,150]

Well, now that Dick Cheney has blessed factcheck.org as an independent arbiter of truth, lets see what they have to say about his statements on the war (as well as those of the Bush apologists on here):

"Cheney repeatedly said Edwards had voted "for the war" and "to commit the troops," when in fact the Iraq resolution that both Kerry and Edwards supported left the decision to the president and called for intensified diplomacy.

"The resolution for which Edwards and Kerry voted said, "The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate."

"And Edwards made clear in a statement at the time of his vote that he hoped to avoid war by enlisting broad support from the United Nations and US allies:

"Edwards ( Oct. 10, 2002 ): I believe we should act now for two reasons: first, bipartisan congressional action on a strong, unambiguous resolution, like the one before us now, will strengthen America's hand as we seek support from the Security Council and seek to enlist the cooperation of our allies.

"If the administration continues its strong, if belated, diplomacy, backed by the bipartisan resolve of the Congress, I believe the United States will succeed in rallying many allies to our side.

"Second, strong domestic support and a broad international coalition will make it less likely that force would need to be used.

"In fact, not even Bush himself characterized the resolution as a vote "for war" at the time. Speaking at the White House Rose Garden Oct. 2, 2002, Bush said:

"Bush (Oct. 2, 2002): None of us here today desire to see military conflict, because we know the awful nature of war. Our country values life, and never seeks war unless it is essential to security and to justice. America's leadership and willingness to use force, confirmed by the Congress, is the best way to ensure compliance and avoid conflict. Saddam must disarm, period. If, however, he chooses to do otherwise, if he persists in his defiance, the use of force may become unavoidable."


So it seems that Cheney's preferred truth telling web site shoots down the claims that his own campaign is making.

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