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What will the Republicans do if Kerry wins?

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Will we get to hear 4 years of "he rigged the election"?



Yes.

If Bush wins, you will hear the same bitching you hear everytime a Republican wins. (negative attacks, soft money, religious right, extremist views, pandering to voters, blah blah blah)

It'll really be fun if there's another Floridiot type situation.
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So far we've also had people on here say they will leave the military if Kerry wins, anyone want to say they will leave the country?

Look for election issues in FL, Oh and PA this time. :D Election season will be a mess as usual.
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Of course. If that does happen, there will be a lot of republicans who will publically wring their hands in disgust but will secretly be very happy. Some right-wingers are in their glory when they get to attack a democratic president; look at all the repubs who were happy as a pig in you-know-what during the Lewinsky scandal. And of course there are those who simply make more money (Coulter, Limbaugh) when they have a good target.

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All depends on who wins the House and Senate...

I doubt I'll leave the country... but if Kerry wins, along with the Congress... I'll be buying some guns before the New and improved AWB comes around.

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Brace for the economic crash



I don't think it really has far to crash, does it?



We're not in a depression or recession. Unemployment isn't too bad.
Kerry could fix that.

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If they are smart, they will turn to an unknown to take back the WH in '08...a young person, short in stature, poppy eyes, known in some circles as an unabashed....
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JACKASS!!!!!! Yes, if they lose to this buffoon, they should turn around and put me on the ballot in '08 with Ms. Rice as my VP.

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Brace for the economic crash



I don't think it really has far to crash, does it?



We're not in a depression or recession. Unemployment isn't too bad.



Do you really believe that? I spend most of my day talking to unemployed people. The workforce program is running out of money to retrain displaced people in this city and Chicago has maintained close to a 7% unemployment rate since 2002. As of June (the last numbers available to me) that is 267,161 which was on a rise from previous months. I'm sure all of those people would tend to argue with you.

The textile and manufacturing industries haven't improved...and probably won't due to the tax breaks given to companies by taking their jobs offshore. .50cents an hour is more attractive to them then $12.50 an hour. 200,000 IT jobs are gone for good to overseas workers as long as the tax breaks stick around.

Baghdad Bush may claim that 1 million jobs have been created, but 2.7 total have been lost while he has been in office. He is still in the hole there. He has given us the largest deficit ever, and he has made social security even worse despite his campaign promise to fix it.

Also, what stat GW doesn't proudly talk about is that the average salary of those 1 million new jobs is below what they were making at their previous jobs.

The main companies that have grown from Bush are those that support the war and get contracts from the DOD. But even those seem to go to the select few that are somehow connected to Bush.

What do I hope the annoying conservatives do? Harri kerry? :D
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Do you really believe that?



Yes, anecdotal evidence aside, I think Kerry could really screw up the economy.

I *think* this is the correct chart. If not, I'm sure it'll be pointed out. Historically, it fluctuated a lot more.

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ln

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Do you really believe that?



Yes, anecdotal evidence aside, I think Kerry could really screw up the economy.



The fact is, it is screwed up already. Bush had his chance and didn't do much to create jobs. Tax cuts? Whatever, I think I saw a $100 check...spread out over four years that doesn't add up to the money I lost while unemployed. The tax cuts are not opening up good paying jobs either. The lower and middle class are collectivly in a worse spot financially then they were in the past few years.....

And there will be even more unemployed people with the large amount of people leaving the military due to Bush. I think I heard that enlistment was down 12%, with the Air Force being the only exception.

There is one or two signs that the economy might be improving, but there are more signs to prove that it isn't in full recovery and won't be any time soon. The tradional means that Bush has taken have failed. We need another person with a differnent take. Someone that will pay more attention to the working class instead of the business class.

btw - the second graph shows a quick increase during the war, which is typical. But once reality set in as of Jan you can see that it has gone back down.
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What would you have done differently?
Bush inherited a mess from Clinton. The tech sector and all it's high paying jobs had nothing to do with Bush.

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We need another person with a differnent take. Someone that will pay more attention to the working class instead of the business class.



Aside from what does Kerry stand for again?

What are these great ideas for stimulating the economy? How is Kerry going to stimulate the economy by giving everyone a $1000 tax credit for health insurance or socialized medicine? Oh yeah, higher taxes. :S That's something new for a democrat.

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What are these great ideas for stimulating the economy? How is Kerry going to stimulate the economy by giving everyone a $1000 tax credit for health insurance or socialized medicine? Oh yeah, higher taxes. :S That's something new for a democrat.



If $5/week more in taxes mean more jobs, more jobs in this country, and less unemployed....I have no problem with the tax raise. IF it also means that less money is taken from social security so I can reclaim some of my money one day when I retire...I have no problem with that either.
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What are these great ideas for stimulating the economy?



-Enforce existing free trade agreements, something Bush deosn't do.
-Penalize China for artificually manipulating their currency.
-Close the loophole that allows companies to defer paying taxes on income from foreign subsidiaries.
-New Jobs Tax Credit that will cover an employer's share of payroll taxes for net new jobs created in manufacturing and other businesses affected by outsourcing, and small business.
-Lower Corporate Tax Rates by 5 Percent.
-Support stronger "Buy American" guidelines for defense and homeland security, which will help retain and strengthen domestic manufacturing capabilities in strategic manufacturing industries.
-He won't cut DARPA's budget by 15% as Bush plans. DARPA has helped bring about advanced manufacturing technologies, such as flexible manufacturing, that can provide custom products in low volumes at competitive costs.

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Will we get to hear 4 years of "he rigged the election"?



You mean like how the liberals did these past 4?

No. Republicans are far more mature. You won't see any of them bitching/moaning/crying/complaining about how the election was stolen from them. They'll hold their heads up and stand behind their new leader and follow him to hell and back.



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>You won't see any of them bitching/moaning/crying/complaining about
> how the election was stolen from them. They'll hold their heads up and
>stand behind their new leader and follow him to hell and back.

How much you want to bet? I'll bet you $1000 here and now that if Kerry wins, republicans here on this board will start bitching about him before he's even sworn in.

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What are these great ideas for stimulating the economy?



-Lower Corporate Tax Rates by 5 Percent.



Kerry's going to do that? More profits for big business like Heinz. S-corps get no breaks.

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How much you want to bet? I'll bet you $1000 here and now that if Kerry wins, republicans here on this board will start bitching about him before he's even sworn in.



No, we'll be predicting how badly he's going to screw things up, flip-flop, take credit for Bush's economic recovery, etc. But, at least, the left might finally shut up about losing the 2000 election.

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Did you see me cry 24/7 and post negative posts about him every day like you do about Bush?

Here. I'll answer for you. The correct response would be "negative".

The following is not directed at anyone in particuliar.

I'm a different breed from most. I'm a patriot. An american. I have my own political views and opinions. However. When the elections are over I stand behind my leader and support and follow him anywhere. Bitching/moaning/crying/whining/moaning/complaining about the POTUS does nothing but divide America.

You want to voice your dislike for the POTUS? Great! You get your chance every 4 years. After that everyone needs to shut their hole and S2 (sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up).

Too many whiners on these boards. The funny thing is I never saw this behavior at the DZs. Guess being behind closed doors and at the safety of their computer enables people to show how they act when no one can see them [:/]



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