Gravitymaster 0 #1 September 30, 2004 10) If a simple yes will do but you insist on explaining why no is a viable alternative, the flip-flopping tag will stick 9) When the number of folks participating on conference calls for your rapid-response team exceeds the number of days left in the campaign, the calls are neither rapid nor responsive. They merely provide excuses for Nov. 2. 8) When there are more sightings of your vice presidential running mate on milk cartons than on the campaign trial, you are going to lose. Your VP choice is supposed to help win the election, not reassure the trial bar. 7) When your battleground states become the states that Walter Mondale carried in 1984, you may notice campaign staffers updating their resumes. 6) When your most loyal backer, Don Imus, is trashing you while you're still on the phone and not waiting until after you hang up, the noise you're hearing is the fat lady warming up. 5) When your friends are more effective taking you off message (i.e., the Texas Democrats, Dan Rather and Max Cleland) than your opponent, you can kiss that Nantucket White House goodbye. 4) When the Electoral College scoreboard has tilted toward your opponent after $300 million worth of negative attacks, there's not much hope for the $40 million you have left. 3) When you need to pull out every trick in the book to keep folks off the ballot, like Ralph Nader, it says two things: One, you have no confidence in your own platform and two, you're not very tolerant of others' views. Not appealing traits to swing voters. 2) When the makers of flip-flops are considering a defamation suit for spoiling their good name, it's time to take a position, any position and stick with it. 1) When your Senate Democrat leader, Tom Daschle, is cutting his losses and embracing President Bush, put a fork in your arm, John, you're done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 September 30, 2004 I swear, everytime he tries to explain the I voted for it before I voted against it, the shit just gets deeper and deeper. By the way, can anyone tell me whether Kerry is for the war or against it? He has said (and this is only what I can remember): We spent too much on the war. We haven't spent enough on the war. Knowing what we know now, he would not have gone to war. Knowing what we know now, he would have gone to war. Saddam was enough to justify the war, without finding WMDs. Saddam was not enough to justify the war, without finding WMDs. Any other positions on the war? Honestly, can anyone say they know what this guy thinks of the war? If so, how can they explain his clear statements to the contrary?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 September 30, 2004 In reguards to the money comment... We did not need to spend any money on going to Iraq, but now that we have gone we need to spend the amount it takes to do it correctly. That means having enough for armor for the army, enough for jobs for locals, enough to rebuild. But we have to be careful not to throw money into a lost cause. Same thing as having an old car that you are trying to decide if its better to just put money into it or to buy a new one. Once you commit to spending that $1000 for an engine overhaul it does'nt make sense to not put in a $20 oil change. But if you see that there will be a $20 oil change, $300 for tires, 1500 for transmission work, $250 for brakes and axel work... there is a point in which you quit throwing money at a lost cause and put it towards a new car.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 September 30, 2004 He is the candidate for everymans view. All of them - all at the same time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #5 September 30, 2004 >Any other positions on the war? Sure. There is no doubt Saddam has WMD's. We will take down Saddam to stop his WMD programs. We found the WMD's. It will take a while to find the WMD's. We probably never will find the WMD's. We didn't go after Saddam because of his WMD's. Finding Bin Laden is our priority. We will stop at nothing to find him, I don't really care where Bin Laden is. I don't think about him much. We don't need a 9/11 commission. I support a 9/11 commission. It is constitutionally unacceptable for Rice to testify before the commisssion. I told Rice to testify. The problem Kerry has is that he waffles a lot on his opinions. The problem Bush has is that he really can't run on his record. What's he going to say? Two more wars! More bad intelligence! Two more terrorist attacks! I promise to attack the wrong countries again! I promise to double the deficit! All he can do is go after Kerry's waffling. Which would make sense if he wasn't a waffler himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 September 30, 2004 QuoteHe is the candidate for everymans view. All of them - all at the same time. And there was never a republican like that? Remember Time Magazines "MEN OF THE YEAR?" DO you remember who that was? Yup, Bush Sr. If you want to boil it down to school yard labels? Would I take a flip flop over a war monger? Yup. Anyday._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #7 September 30, 2004 Quote>Any other positions on the war? Sure. There is no doubt Saddam has WMD's. We will take down Saddam to stop his WMD programs. We found the WMD's. It will take a while to find the WMD's. We probably never will find the WMD's. We didn't go after Saddam because of his WMD's. Finding Bin Laden is our priority. We will stop at nothing to find him, I don't really care where Bin Laden is. I don't think about him much. We don't need a 9/11 commission. I support a 9/11 commission. It is constitutionally unacceptable for Rice to testify before the commisssion. I told Rice to testify. The problem Kerry has is that he waffles a lot on his opinions. The problem Bush has is that he really can't run on his record. What's he going to say? Two more wars! More bad intelligence! Two more terrorist attacks! I promise to attack the wrong countries again! I promise to double the deficit! All he can do is go after Kerry's waffling. Which would make sense if he wasn't a waffler himself. Now see Bill. You are gonna confuse them getting logical like that._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #8 September 30, 2004 Naww.....I would vote for a war mongering imbecile(GWB) before I would vote for a flip flopping traitor(Kerry). General Giap (NVA) credited the anti war effort in the US for winning the war for North Vietnam.Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #9 September 30, 2004 QuoteAnd there was never a republican like that? Remember Time Magazines "MEN OF THE YEAR?" DO you remember who that was? Yup, Bush Sr. Thank God then that Sr is not running huh? But the Flip/Flopper IS running. QuoteIf you want to boil it down to school yard labels? Would I take a flip flop over a war monger? Yup. Anyday. Even though you don't know what the Flip'/Flopper is going to do? I give you a hint...Same thing Bush is doing."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 September 30, 2004 QuoteI give you a hint...Same thing Bush is doing. Doubt it, but I am willing to put my vote on it. Besides with the nasty long list of screwups that Bush has, I'll give anyone a chance to show him how much he screwed up. No second chance._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 September 30, 2004 QuoteDoubt it, but I am willing to put my vote on it. Besides with the nasty long list of screwups that Bush has, I'll give anyone a chance to show him how much he screwed up. No second chance. And with Kerry's voting record, and with his long line of saying one thing, but doing another...I'll vote for Bush Thank God I live in a battle ground State so that it matters who I vote for"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
