Post your favorite Kerry flip-flop

[tunaplanet 0]

Here's mine.

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"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -- John Kerry December 20, 2003

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"The satisfaction we take in (Saddam's) downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure." -- John Kerry, 9/20/04

Forty-two

[Gravitymaster 0]

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003

[skydyvr 0]

To keep the flippin' to one sentence, we can always regurgitate the famous 86 billion commentary.

Did he vote for it, or against it?

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[TypicalFish 0]

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To keep the flippin' to one sentence, we can always regurgitate the famous 86 billion commentary.

Did he vote for it, or against it?

Maybe he said the same thing alot of us did;

"We were all for it, until we realized we had been misled and our support had been taken advantage of..."

Oh, my mistake, I guess I should just stick with it because I was stupid enough to fall for it in the first place...

"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET

[crozby 0]

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Here's mine.


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"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -- John Kerry December 20, 2003


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"The satisfaction we take in (Saddam's) downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure." -- John Kerry, 9/20/04

So let me make sure I understand what Kerry is saying. In December 2003 he basically said that anyone who doesn't think we are safer without SH was wrong.

Then, 9 months later he's saying that although it's good SH is gone there is now chaos in Iraq and the USA is no safer than it was before SH was removed.

Gimme a break. That's not flip-flopping. It's stating the bleeding obvious. The situation in Dec 2003 in Iraq was nowhere near as bad as it is now. Now it's a bloody mess. Any politician that tried to pretend otherwise would be a total fucking liar. Or stupid. Or both.

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Noun 1. flip-flop - a decision to reverse an earlier decision
Synonyms: change of mind, turnabout, turnaround, reversal

It's not even a flip-flop in the true sense of the word!

And thats you're favorite???? What's you're second favorite?

[kallend 2,150]

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Here's mine.

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"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -- John Kerry December 20, 2003

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"The satisfaction we take in (Saddam's) downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure." -- John Kerry, 9/20/04

And they are both true. Deposing Saddam was a good thing, and Bush has so mismanaged the aftermath that there is more chaos now.

Can't blame Kerry for Bush's incompetence.

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[Ron 10]

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To keep the flippin' to one sentence, we can always regurgitate the famous 86 billion commentary.

Did he vote for it, or against it?

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Maybe he said the same thing alot of us did;

"We were all for it, until we realized we had been misled and our support had been taken advantage of..."

No I don't see that as a flip/flop.

He voted for it when it didn't have tax breaks in it, and he voted against it when it did.

So yes, he flip/floped.

However the real issue is he thought that getting rid of the tax cuts was more important that providing body armor for our troops.

So even if you don't want to call it a flip flop, he did put tax issues ahead of our troops safety.

And thats fucked up for anyone, much less a guy that wants to command the troops.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[jumper03 0]

My favorite has always been this one.

We need to stay on OBL imho.

Scars remind us that the past is real

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

yawn....I would post all of Bush's stupid sayings...But HH would be pissed at my use of bandwidth.

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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My favorite has always been this one.

Always been my favorite as well.
I'm waiting for "Iraq really isn't that big of a deal but i found this new shinny country to invade!" to come out of GW's mouth.

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[Ron 10]

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yawn....I would post all of Bush's stupid sayings...But HH would be pissed at my use of bandwidth.

Damn dude did you just cut and paste my earlier post?


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Sep 29, 2004, 2:16 AM

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yawn....I would post all of Kerrys stupid sayings...But HH would be pissed at my use of bandwidth.

You spend WAY to much time reading my posts....You have them on a quick reference file or something?

I feel like I have my own stalker

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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Damn dude did you just cut and paste my earlier post?

It's called parody.
You spend WAY to much time reading my posts....

[Ron 10]

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It's called parody.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

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Only because there are so many to read.

What can I say, I have a job that pays really well, that I do really well, and have a lot of free time at.

Sorry.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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mitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

And to think that over all these years Dana Carvey was actually a Bush supporter? wow

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[Ron 10]

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And to think that over all these years Dana Carvey was actually a Bush supporter? wow

You sir, are no Dana Carvey

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[jimbarry 0]

This one's my favorite, regarding the wall that Israel has been building:

In Nov 2003, in a speech to a Palestinian advocacy group, he openly came out in opposition to the wall, dubbing it a “barrier to peace,” and criticizing Israeli leadership for “derailing” the peace process.

But then in Feb 2004, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Kerry asserted that the wall, "continues to be a legitimate act of self-defense”

Was this a legitimate changing of his position based on new information, or was it pandering based on his audience? His track record leans me to the latter.