Guest #26 October 2, 2004 I don't think public humiliation is called for. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #27 October 2, 2004 QuoteMy youngest daughter (10) has the teeniest tiniest waist and long legs and it is nearly impossible to find jeans that fit her correctly. 5 minutes with a sewing machine. If you can't do it, find a friend or a professional seamstress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #28 October 2, 2004 Perhaps I'm lucky. Then again my kids go to the local Catholic School (despite me not being a Catholic - but there's the whole "No Religious Discrimination" thing for you). Anyway, there's a seriously strict dress code. It revolves around black shoes, black / navy / dark grey trousers or skirts(below the knee), black / grey / navy sweater, white shirt blouse, & School tie. Blazers are optional (as are the skirts for the boys). Jeans, trainers, and designer labels are not accepted and will result in a phone call to the parents (yes, they INSIST on contact numbers) for a "one-off" explanation, and the child being removed from the school (Mom, Dad, Contact, come and get little XXXX and take her home) for continuous infraction. "Modified wearing" is also not tolerated. Ties are NOT belts. Trousers are NOT "dropped". Skirts are NOT rolled up at the waistband so the hem sits at the crotch (again, especially the boys). Parents go into this with their eyes open. We are expected to work with the school to ensure adequate discipline, including the "dress code". We are expected to liase with the school staff first and then present a united front to the child. If the parent doesn't like this then they are of course free to place their child(ren) in another school. Then again, we do live in a "Goddamn Commie Socialist Country" where parents on low incomes automatically get a grant toward their kids' school clothing... And the cheapest place to get the clothing is Asda (Walmart). The (annual) grant is enough to get the kids a pair of quality shoes, a tie, a sweater, a pair of trousers / skirt, and 4 shirts / blouses. The dress code is loosened for sports kit - (almost) anything goes. The net result is a higher level of school discipline, and you can't really tell the "have"s from the "have not"s. Isn't living in a "Socialist" state wonderful! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justaflygirl 0 #29 October 2, 2004 in my opinion...which I could be way off..if this measure of discipline was taken, then Im guessing that this kid has probably been in trouble for this among other things too. It doesnt seem likely that this would have been a first offense kinda thing. All of thpublic schools here (primary & middle) have a basic dresscode, which I approve of. If the dad in this case is upset, he should have made sure his son was dressed approprately before going to school. And by being a very active parent myself, I have a hard time believing that this action would have been taken against a poor kid who could not afford better fitting clothes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #30 October 2, 2004 QuoteThe net result is a higher level of school discipline, and you can't really tell the "have"s from the "have not"s. anyone who thinks that uniforms keep you from telling the difference between the "have's from the "have not's" has never been to a catholic school, or simply cant pay attention to detail. Believe me the kids know the difference VERY quickly without ever asking... discipline should be taught by parents, not by rather useless draconian dress codes. Unfortunately some people cant be bothered.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #31 October 5, 2004 We have had constant discipline problems in school... after many years I have decided to basically relinquish my responsibility for it and give it to our child, who is now responsible for her own schooling (10 y/o) We did all this with a parent/teacher/v.p./student conference & signed a contract, etc... The last resort punishment for non-compliance in the contract is "Paddling" with a wooden paddle by the Principle.. They have to call us first of course and we have to be present, but oddly enough, since we all made this agreement... we haven't had many problems at all. I think school discipline is necessary but should never be carried out without a parent's consent. IN THIS STORY YOU POSTED the father OBVIOUSLY doesn't have respect for the school or dress code and his son has OBVIOUSLY picked up on that and has adopted the same lack of respect for rules. In this case the father should be ashamed of himself for first setting a bad example, second for not monitoring his child and making him follow the rules and third for blaming the school for taking action when he wouldn't/didn't. I bet the child has even LESS respect for the schools authority now.. way to go Scott Allison, set a bad example, then blame everyone else... what a lesson to teach a 12 year old! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
