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QuoteQuoteQuoteUmm - Japan had no nuclear (or nukular) weapons program of any significance, and the US was well aware of that in 1945. Germany had already surrendered by 6th August.
You are right. The race was over. There was something on the History Channel about a U boat enroute to Japan with German nuclear secrets and some form of uranium, but it was too late. The bombs were used in lieu of an invasion, one in which many American lives would have been lost fighting suicidal Japanese on their home turff.
The German WWII nukular (sic) weapons program was on the wrong track completely. Was it because (a) they'd got no Jewish scientists left. or (b) because Heisenberg deliberately put it on the wrong track? Who knows?
Regardless, nothing the Germans could have sent the Japanese would have come to fruition, 'cos they were on the wrong track completely.
Is there any evidence we knew this? Sounds like the race we had to catch up with the Russians and we had already won.
Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.
"....a U boat enroute to Japan with German nuclear secrets and some form of uranium..."
U-234, a modified type XB, commanded by Johann 'Hein' Fehler. It surrendered to the USS Sutton on 14th May 1945.
U-234 was "rumoured to have been carrying" a complete nuclear weapons delivery system: Enriched Uranium, a fusing expert, and a jet bomber. Matters have not been helped by the US Government's continued failure / refusal to fully open it's U-234 Archives, and in particular the cargo inventory which is still known to be incomplete. Add to that the strange fates and behaviour of certain of the crew (disappearances, fast grants of citizenship, etc...) and you have a very good going conspiracy theory.
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
U-234, a modified type XB, commanded by Johann 'Hein' Fehler. It surrendered to the USS Sutton on 14th May 1945.
U-234 was "rumoured to have been carrying" a complete nuclear weapons delivery system: Enriched Uranium, a fusing expert, and a jet bomber. Matters have not been helped by the US Government's continued failure / refusal to fully open it's U-234 Archives, and in particular the cargo inventory which is still known to be incomplete. Add to that the strange fates and behaviour of certain of the crew (disappearances, fast grants of citizenship, etc...) and you have a very good going conspiracy theory.
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
billvon 3,120
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>The German WWII nukular (sic) weapons program was on the wrong track completely.
Not so sure about that. Our approach wasn't much better - if we thought there were five ways it could be done, we pursued six ways to do it, betting that one of those ways was going to pay off. (Heck, even the first two bombs we used were completely different designs.) Yet we accomplished the objective. When you look at what the Germans accomplished at Peenemunde - I think there was quite a good chance they would have figured it out, if not for some very timely sabotage by the Norwegians. The history there is pretty interesting.
Not so sure about that. Our approach wasn't much better - if we thought there were five ways it could be done, we pursued six ways to do it, betting that one of those ways was going to pay off. (Heck, even the first two bombs we used were completely different designs.) Yet we accomplished the objective. When you look at what the Germans accomplished at Peenemunde - I think there was quite a good chance they would have figured it out, if not for some very timely sabotage by the Norwegians. The history there is pretty interesting.
Meanwhile, where's the 2 jokes you promised me ages ago?
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That's not all they wanted, they wanted to be independant of Spain because they were economically and "genetically" superior.
At the begining of ETA there was no talk about independence from spain as far as i know, they were just fighting Franco because they were opresed. Mainly, to think about getting independence from a country ruled by a dictator was quite ridiculous.
They are not stronger economically that the rest of spain, it all comes down to what region you compared them. As a matter of fact, they DO NOT WANT the independence, they want the right to choose wether they want it or not. There is a diference, they could not allowed to be independent for they would not be part of Europe anymore. That is what they call "derecho a la autodeterminación". And the rest of spain cannot give them that right because if they do, the Cataluña will want it too, and they could get the independence and have some chances to be part of Europe.
About the genetic superiority... it is only an old senile politician (Arzallus) who sais that. And he regrets it for everybody takes the piss out of him ever since.
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Look up communist influence in the basque movement. Or just basque communists.
Can you post a link? i haven´t found much relevant to that issue.
QuoteI can understand wanting to be out from under "the boot" of whoever you think is oppressing you. How could you know otherwise?
Sometimes people get confused about terrorist and Freedom fighters. ETA are terrorists.
QuoteQuoteBy the way I do not tow a "wohnwagen"
But I bet you like your hagelslag
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Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habit,
Especially when you are jumping a sport rig
Zep 0
They kill inocent people, What more is there
Oh yes Blackmail Abduction an perverting the course
of justice
That enough or shall I go on.
Gone fishing
Oh yes Blackmail Abduction an perverting the course
of justice
That enough or shall I go on.
Gone fishing
billvon 3,120
> They kill inocent people, What more is there Oh yes Blackmail
> Abduction an perverting the course of justice
Oh, come on. We're not _that_ bad.
> Abduction an perverting the course of justice
Oh, come on. We're not _that_ bad.
QuoteThey kill inocent people, What more is there
Oh yes Blackmail Abduction an perverting the course
of justice
That enough or shall I go on
"They" being whom? The Basques or ETA?
"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."
wmw999 2,589
Actually, I think he's referring to the ETA, and he does live in Spain. Dunno much about the issue, but also dunno if you're a Basque 
Wendy W.
Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
Zep 0
I'm talking about ETA not the good basque people
who equally suffer at the hands of terrorism
Gone fishing
who equally suffer at the hands of terrorism
Gone fishing
That's not all they wanted, they wanted to be independant of Spain because they were economically and "genetically" superior.
Look up communist influence in the basque movement. Or just basque communists.
I can understand wanting to be out from under "the boot" of whoever you think is oppressing you. How could you know otherwise?
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