JohnRich 4 #1 September 22, 2004 In the news: John Kerry wants to ban his own rifle! CHASTISING PRESIDENT BUSH for allowing the ban on assault weapons to lapse, Sen. Kerry charged in a speech on Sept. 10 that "America's streets will not be safe because of a choice George Bush is making" and that "in the al-Qaida manual on terror, they were telling people to go out and buy assault weapons, to come to America and buy assault weapons." Furthermore, "Every law-enforcement officer in America doesn't want us selling assault weapons in the streets of America," he claimed. Strong words from the Democratic candidate. But now we read in the October issue of Outdoor Life that Mr. Kerry himself may have one of these nefarious firearms. Asked if he was a gun owner and, if so, what was his favorite gun, the man from Massachusetts said, "My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam. I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle." Source: Free Lance-Star John Kerry owns an AK-47 assault rifle! I think that the BATF should investigate. If it is a full-auto rifle, and isn't registered, then John Kerry is facing 10-years in prison for possession of that bring-back weapon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #2 September 22, 2004 Wait...John...it's ok for him. It's not ok for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #3 September 22, 2004 QuoteWait...John...it's ok for him. It's not ok for you. maybe he voted against the ban before he voted for it or maybe it wasn't seared yet. Or maybe he got it when he Quotehad personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam." And you admitted on television that "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed." Hard to believe this man stands for anything. Or maybe it's just hard to keep track of what he stands for today compared with yesterday and tomorrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #4 September 22, 2004 QuoteHard to believe this man stands for anything. Or maybe it's just hard to keep track of what he stands for today compared with yesterday and tomorrow It's hard for me to believe that he's the best the Democrats could come up with. Don't get me wrong. I'm personally not disappointed in their choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 September 22, 2004 QuoteIt's hard for me to believe that he's the best the Democrats could come up with. No argument with that. QuoteI'm personally not disappointed in their choice. You'd rather that someone better wasn't available? That's odd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #6 September 22, 2004 QuoteYou'd rather that someone better wasn't available? That's odd. The bigger idiot he keeps making himself out to be just makes it all the more easier for GWB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 September 22, 2004 Funny thing is that even though Kerry is an idiot... GWB just can't seem to open a lead on him. Whats that say?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #8 September 22, 2004 But wouldn't you prefer that the democrats fielded someone that was even better than GWB (in your eyes)? Or are you going to admit your partisanship? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 September 22, 2004 QuoteBut wouldn't you prefer that the democrats fielded someone that was even better than GWB (in your eyes)? Or are you going to admit your partisanship? I never denied or have tried to hide my partisanship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #10 September 22, 2004 QuoteFunny thing is that even though Kerry is an idiot... GWB just can't seem to open a lead on him. Whats that say? What have you been looking at lately? Bush lead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #11 September 22, 2004 QuoteBut wouldn't you prefer that the democrats fielded someone that was even better than GWB (in your eyes)? Or are you going to admit your partisanship? thats not possible a good Democrat would never win the primary. As a matter of fact most of the good Democrats end up turning Republican when they realize their party is no good. Reagan, Giuliani, Zell Miller (well that hasn't happened yet, but I do see it happening.)If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #12 September 22, 2004 QuoteWhat have you been looking at lately? Probably the state by state polls, since the general population means squat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #13 September 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhat have you been looking at lately? Probably the state by state polls, since the general population means squat. Ok Battleground States Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 September 22, 2004 Those are some narrow margins and I don't see the margin of error listed. Plus it's only 3 states. You have to look at all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #15 September 22, 2004 Quote, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle." This doesn't say it's a functioning rifle. If we assume it's not, then the ban doesn't apply right? Just curious - or is this guy really that out of touch? ----------------Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #16 September 22, 2004 QuoteThose are some narrow margins and I don't see the margin of error listed. Plus it's only 3 states. You have to look at all of them. Their paragraph for September 1 sounds like a Kerry football team in the 4th quarter with no time outs left trying to kick a field goal to win the game from the 45 yard line and 2 seconds to go. Sure, given the right circumstances (wind to your back, low crowd noice, calm nerves, and a bit of luck), ...it could happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 September 22, 2004 Zogbsy's got the split a whole lot closer http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm And its with in the 3.1 MOE. While Pew Research Center for the People & the Press has them with in 1%. 1% sure is some lead huh? Back in '96 Dole never got closer then about 9%. Ohio has bounced between both camps a few times already this year. Kerry is in town again tonight (along with GHWB), both camps are fighting tooth and nail here since its only been a 1-3% lead for Bush lately (with a 3.5 moe)Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 September 22, 2004 QuoteThis doesn't say it's a functioning rifle. If we assume it's not, then the ban doesn't apply right? Just curious - or is this guy really that out of touch? That would be called "de-milled", which is short for "de-militarized". In other words, someone would have had to follow BATF procedures to render it incapable of full-auto fire capability, and this change would be irreversible. So we still need the BATF to examine John Kerry's AK-47 to find out if this is the case (which I think is unlikely), or if it is owned without proper registration as a machinegun, and is therefore illegal. It's quite hypocritical of him to advocate banning "assault weapons" for everyone else, while he still has one in his own closet. But that's typical liberal bullshit - they just want laws to apply to everyone else, but not themselves. I want to see him called on the carpet for this firearm. If it's illegal, he needs to pay, just like the "common man" would, whom he claims to represent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #19 September 22, 2004 is there a grandfather clause for fully automatic weapons manufactered back then? one of my friends owns a WW2 BAR that is fully automatic, but i didn't think it was illegal since it was grandfathered in whenever they made fully-auto illegal MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #20 September 22, 2004 QuoteThe bigger idiot he keeps making himself out to be just makes it all the more easier for GWB. I just can't help but laugh at this statement!! (no, not the grammar) Wow, you have such confidence in Bush. It does seem impossible that such an idiot could win against a stronger (than Kerry) dem candidate (and by Stronger, I don't mean signifigantly stronger. The race is pretty close now). Personally, I don't like either candidate. I just don't hate Kerry as much as I hate Bush. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #21 September 22, 2004 QuoteI think that the BATF should investigate. If it is a full-auto rifle, and isn't registered, then John Kerry is facing 10-years in prison for possession of that bring-back weapon. First, where does it say it's full auto OR that he brought it back or that it's not registered? Or do you think that the BATF should investigate everyone who has a military style rifle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 September 22, 2004 They're not illegal (federally), you have to purchase a special license and register it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #23 September 22, 2004 QuoteBut wouldn't you prefer that the democrats fielded someone that was even better than GWB (in your eyes)? Or are you going to admit your partisanship? Kev, are you going to say ANYTHING about the subject of the thread -- the hypocrisy of a man who wants to ban these weapons OWNING the said weapons? -Jeffrey --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #24 September 22, 2004 Quoteis there a grandfather clause for fully automatic weapons manufactered back then? one of my friends owns a WW2 BAR that is fully automatic, but i didn't think it was illegal since it was grandfathered in whenever they made fully-auto illegal That's not possible. Full-auto "NFA" firearms came under regulation with the National Firearms Act of 1934. Nothing used in WWII could possibly have been grandfathered in, since WWII was begun and ended well after 1934. If Kerry has a full-auto ChiCom rifle, and has not paid the BATF $200 tax, registered the gun, then he is a felon and should do TEN YEARS IN FEDERAL PRISON. Ah, what a sweet, sweet, beautiful dream that would be. Blue skies, -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #25 September 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteI think that the BATF should investigate. If it is a full-auto rifle, and isn't registered, then John Kerry is facing 10-years in prison for possession of that bring-back weapon. First, where does it say it's full auto OR that he brought it back or that it's not registered? Or do you think that the BATF should investigate everyone who has a military style rifle? It's John Kerry who wants every gun owner registered, so if his money is where his mouth is, he should be volunteering to line up to have his rifle inspected and registered with the federal government. And if he's in violation of the NFA, that's ten years in the slammer, Frenchie. Kev, we're just looking for him to be consistent with his own word. That doesn't mean we have to agree with the policy -- but for damn sure I demand that anyone who advocates a policy to govern the rest of us live by it himself. -Jeffrey --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites