Taliban said it would be a 1000 year war.

[captain1 0]

Has everyone forgotten we are just getting started. It is a war of ideology and religion and there are many centuries yet to come in this battle. Wow, it is like reversing human peace and progress. No matter how modern and civilized you become, there is always somebody ready to take your down. History repeats itself.

[tunaplanet 0]

Terrific post. It's blank but terrific none the less. I love it.

Forty-two

[AggieDave 6]

Cool, then I don't have to deal with what the war will be like in 900 years.

The Taliban has said a lot of things most of them pretty out there.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Jib 0]

Hmmmm, 1000 years * 1000 towels wrapped too tight * 72 virgins (yeah from what planet) =

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[captain1 0]

[The Taliban has said a lot of things most of them pretty out there.]

Their civilization/culture is also much more ancient than ours.

[AggieDave 6]

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Their civilization/culture is also much more ancient than ours.

The US as a country is very young, but the cultures that make up the overall culture is still quite old.

Christian's time span includes 1000 year wars, read the last book in the big book, it talks about it...

Basically, I'm not buying it, their culture will change, just as everyone elses has over time.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[wmw999 2,588]

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Their civilization/culture is also much more ancient than ours.

Um -- excuse me? They are a little-accepted (except among their members, obviously) radical offshoot of Islam. If you mean that all Muslims are Taliban members, or like that, well, then I guess that means that all Christians are like the cults that don't allow women to teach in church because that would be leading men, and women are supposed to follow.

Oh wait -- there are quite a lot of those

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[captain1 0]

Here we go. I try not to get involved in long controversial argurments. As you said," Basically, I'm not buying it. Their culture will change, just as everyone elses has over time." No, their culture has not and will not change. Make no mistake, what you believe in is sacriligious to them. They do not concede to the ideology of what our forefathers based our constitution upon, FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Either you are a believer of Allah or you are going to hell just like many christians beleive that if you do not accept JC as your lord savior you are going to hell.

[captain1 0]

Um--excuse me? I believe in you.

[AggieDave 6]

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Here we go. I try not to get involved in long controversial argurments. As you said," Basically, I'm not buying it. Their culture will change, just as everyone elses has over time." No, their culture has not and will not change. Make no mistake, what you believe in is sacriligious to them. They do not concede to the ideology of what our forefathers based our constitution upon, FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Either you are a believer of Allah or you are going to hell just like many christians beleive that if you do not accept JC as your lord savior you are going to hell.

Meh.

They fuck with us, we kill them...we kill them, they fuck with us. Eventually at some point they'll quit fucking with us or they'll all be dead, which ever one happens first will be fine.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[billvon 3,118]

>No, their culture has not and will not change.

Christians spent hundreds of years killing millions of Muslims. Remember that whole Crusade thing. We changed (mostly.)

[billvon 3,118]

>They fuck with us, we kill them . . .

Agreed there. The important part is to make sure we kill the people who fuck with us, not the people who pray to Mecca or believe they shouldn't shave. We should be have an equal-opportunity response to terrorism, one that goes after terrorists and not muslims (or atheists, or koreans, or whatever.)

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The important part is to make sure we kill the people who fuck with us, not the people who pray to Mecca or believe they shouldn't shave.

Exactly. Unfortunately "collaterals" will happen due to the nature of our enemy and the enemy hiding behind civilians.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[wmw999 2,588]

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They fuck with us, we kill them...we kill them, they fuck with us. Eventually at some point they'll quit fucking with us or they'll all be dead, which ever one happens first will be fine.

If we kill them too indiscriminately, they "them" becomes bigger and bigger with sympathizers, and eventually there are more of them than there are of us. And eventually we lose bigtime, too.

Do we really want to do that? We don't cave and say "it's OK to do whatever you want to" because it isn't. But we use our might intelligently -- in this case, continuing with the Taliban would have been a good start, and pressure on the Saudis also. Frankly, upping the pressure on Iraq was a good idea, but not alone. If we take all the friends first, then they don't have as many later.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[AggieDave 6]

Yup. Damnit Wendy, don't make me be more specific, I've been having fun posting random "glazed over" posts instead of taking time to actually write it out correctly.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[captain1 0]

[Christians spent hundreds of years killing millions of muslims

No, that is not true. Study your history. That many people did not exist back then and the Crusades always consisted of a few thousand if not less. Feeding a large scale army back then was a true feat. Not including all the children that were put into slavery thinking they were going on a crusade.

[jb092 0]

The Koran is like the bible.........it is how you interpret it to be. Who ever reads it will say what they want to say.

What could possibly go wrong?

[captain1 0]

So what are you saying? I know what I said is true proven history. It has nothing to do with what the Koran or the Bible says to be true or false.

[jb092 0]

What I am saying is that these knuckleheads read and interpret what they what the people to hear. Very few people actually read the statements they refer to. If so then Sadam, would have read over at the passage, I don't know word for word, " The Eagle will crush the muslin world and a new world will start with out islam"............if you want to get technical.

Sorry I dont know the passage #..

What could possibly go wrong?

[captain1 0]

I apologize. I did not realize you were responding to my original post. Me being a dumbass. I just hope you realize that regardless of people hating people, there use to be a time that crashing planes to hurt and kill massess of people was unfathomible. I thought the world got over that after Hitler.

[jb092 0]

Well most of the world did.......except for the extremists. I have a few muslim friends that were appalled by that act. They said that those extremists were making a bad name for all who where muslim. I tend to agree with that.

What could possibly go wrong?

[PhreeZone 20]

You do realise that quote really is'nt in the Koran and was made up post 9/11 right?

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[Erroll 80]

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Their civilization/culture is also much more ancient than ours.

Islam was only established as a religion around 500 - 600 AD.

The Taliban was created as recently as 1994. As Wendy pointed out, the Taliban are no more representative of Islam than David Koresh's Branch Davidians were of Christianity.



Some usefull reading on Islam:

Islam is not, as some imagine in the West, a religion of the sword nor did it spread primarily by means of war.

Christians and Jews were not forced to convert. Outside of Arabia also the vast lands conquered by the Arab armies in a short period became Muslim not by force of the sword but by the appeal of the new religion.

The new religion did not coerce people to convert. Many continued to remain Jews and Christians and to this day important communities of the followers of these faiths are found in Muslim lands.

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I thought the world got over that after Hitler.

Which brings us nicely to other "Thousand Year" proclamations.

When Hitler proclaimed that his "Third Reich" would last for a thousand years his claim was a hell of a lot more credible.... He was out by 988 years.

And just as not all Germans were Nazis, not all Muslims are terrorists.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[SpeedRacer 1]

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to. If so then Sadam, would have read over at the passage, I don't know word for word, " The Eagle will crush the muslin world and a new world will start with out islam"............if you want to get technical.

Sorry I dont know the passage #..

what is this crap about an eagle? There's nothing like that in the Koran as far as I know.

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