Anyone want to see the true nature of our enemies?

[skycop 0]

Go to MichaelSavage.com and watch the video of the 1st American hostage being beheaded.
If this doesn't make you sick..........and piss you off, I don't know what will.
If these videos and the school slaughter in Russia don't open some people's eyes, as to the true nature of our enemies, we are all doomed.
This is true war in every sense, just fought differently.

When I mean first, I mean this month. No disrespect to Nic Berg or Paul Johnson. This just furthers the point.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Go to MichaelSavage.com and watch the video of the 1st American hostage being beheaded.
If this doesn't make you sick..........and piss you off, I don't know what will.
If these videos and the school slaughter in Russia don't open some people's eyes, as to the true nature of our enemies, we are all doomed.
This is true war in every sense, just fought differently.

When I mean first, I mean this month. No disrespect to Nic Berg or Paul Johnson. This just furthers the point.

The only such video I've seen so far was the one of the Nepalese man beheaded as he lay blindfolded and bound on his back. You could hear him wheezing, drowning in his own blood. It was the most grotesque, saddest thing I have ever seen. I'm sure the murder you're talking about, the current one, is every bit as bad.

You are 100% correct. These animals need to be slaughtered like rabid mongrels, because that is essentially what they are. There is nothing immoral, insensitive, inhumane, discompassionate or wrong with feeling this way; it doesn't make us "no better than they are" to kill these pieces of shit, because but for their unwillingness to live and let live with us, there would be no conflict. It is not juvenile to say, "They started it," because the fact that they keep up with it is the only reason we must treat them as our enemy, now and forever, until we destroy them and rid ourselves of the threat they present to our own continued existence.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[MC208B 0]

What he said!

I watched part of one of those horrible videos and couldn't stomach it for the whole thing.

I agree with Jeffrey that those human insects need to be eradicated. Several neutron bombs over the entire region (including Saudi Arabia which we should have gone after for 9/11 payback instead of Iraq) would work real good. Kill the vermin and not damage the oil facilities.

And before you "Oh, we're all people" people start whining about my message here, tough shit! Kill them all and let God, I mean Allah sort them out

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These animals need to be slaughtered like rabid mongrels, because that is essentially what they are.

Give a monkey a piano, and he'll beat it with a stick.

Give a monkey the internet, and he'll lop people's heads off on it.

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These animals need to be slaughtered like rabid mongrels, because that is essentially what they are.

Give a monkey a piano, and he'll beat it with a stick.

Give a monkey the internet, and he'll lop people's heads off on it.

Oh, fuckin' puhlease.
Just what is your sound, logical rationale for NOT killing these pukes? That "it makes us just as bad as they are"?!

I tell you what -- I'll deal with being just as bad as they are -- in a peaceful world bereft of psychotic, fundamentalist religious extremist murderers who worship a god that they claim condones their sick crimes.

Yes, I think I could deal very nicely with being "as bad as they are."

But for my life, I can't figure out why you seem to fuckin' sympathize with our enemies like this!

-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[tunaplanet 0]

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These animals need to be slaughtered like rabid mongrels, because that is essentially what they are.

You know that. I know that. People like Ron and other level-headed people on these forums know that. But...

You're wasting your time arguing to liberals about it. They have no clue how the real world works. They have no street smarts. They have no real-life experience when it comes to war.

You are dealing with Google-Champions who sit at home in front of their computer 24/7 as they "educate" themselves on how to deal with incidents such as these from reading moveon.org and other bullshit media outlets while corrupting everyone with their copy-and-paste skills.

The world will always be filled with unintelligent people who act like they're the authority on everything when in fact most of them are very uneducated losers who have nothing else better to do than complain about life every moment they get.

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Oh, fuckin' puhlease.

Dude . . . pour yourself a cup of de-caf.

I must not have conveyed my thoughts very well, but my point was that the people doing the hostage taking and murdering are a bunch of sub-human (monkey) scum that take our own technology away from us (da 'net) and use it for that which it wasn't meant.

As for sympathizing with them, I think not. I'm only a hop, skip, and a jump away from the glass parking lot crowd.

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I'm only a hop, skip, and a jump away

I'm a short crawl away.

Forty-two

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Oh, fuckin' puhlease.

Dude . . . pour yourself a cup of de-caf.

I don't drink coffee. Could you imagine if I did?!

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As for sympathizing with them, I think not. I'm only a hop, skip, and a jump away from the glass parking lot crowd.

Glad to hear it. 'Cause if you weren't, we'd have to brand you as unAmerican and have to tell you to go move somewheres else, commie!


(that was a bone thrown to our liberal friends who, in their simplistic view of things, actually believe that that's what we believe)

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Glad to hear it. 'Cause if you weren't, we'd have to brand you as unAmerican and have to tell you to go move somewheres else, commie!

Actually, I think the commies would've ended them real fast; KGB style... The liberals only think of communism as an abstract utopian ideal.

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
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Glad to hear it. 'Cause if you weren't, we'd have to brand you as unAmerican and have to tell you to go move somewheres else, commie!

Actually, I think the commies would've ended them real fast; KGB style... The liberals only think of communism as an abstract utopian ideal.

Dude, if you start trying to tell me there's no Utopia, next thing you know I'll be questioning my faith in Santa Claus!

-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[GravityGirl 0]

Why do you guys always segregate yourselves? And why do you speak of your fellow Americans with slanderous words?

I don't get your hostility with the "F"ing liberals. Saying it with the same amount of hate as you address the Taliban for goodness sake.

My brother went to fight in the first in the first Gulf War. His son has just returned home from his second tour in Iraq where they kept trying to kill him. My father and mother both served our country as did my grandparents.

My family is as Pro-America as it gets, and lives very much in the forefront of "Reality". We are not watchers. We are doers.

I have always been more liberal than most of my siblings, but there has never been any name calling between us. We offer each other respect in our differences.

I don't understand why that cannot happen here. This forum harbors so much anger from both sides. I guess no one realizes that we are all on the same side. We are just different players in the game. Chess would just be checkers if we were all the same.

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Peace and Blue Skies!
Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear!

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Why do you guys always segregate yourselves? And why do you speak of your fellow Americans with slanderous words?

I don't understand why that cannot happen here. This forum harbors so much anger from both sides. I guess no one realizes that we are all on the same side.

Amen to that. some people on here, and they know who they are, decide that if you belong to a certain political party, you must be some sort of retarded idiot who wants to blow up america.

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Why do you guys always segregate yourselves? And why do you speak of your fellow Americans with slanderous words?

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I don't get your hostility with the "F"ing liberals. Saying it with the same amount of hate as you address the Taliban for goodness sake.

What is hard to understand about loathing people for doing things that you believe are flat-out wrong, stupid, dangerous, illegal, unconstitutional, or that simple endanger freedom and liberty?

That is the frame for the hostility. Both sides -- it's certainly not just conservatives hating liberals, and don't you think for a second that it is -- believe that the other side is being stupid and reckless in supporting its particular agenda. Sometimes, it even comes to seem to conservatives that liberals are trying to take the country on a self-destructive, self-loathing course! Almost as though they are renouncing what it is to be American -- and for what, to please the "international community"?

If you really believe that others are making decisions that threaten your very way of life and your being, it is not unusual to come to despise those people.

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I don't understand why that cannot happen here. This forum harbors so much anger from both sides. I guess no one realizes that we are all on the same side. We are just different players in the game. Chess would just be checkers if we were all the same.

It is a loss of self control born out of frustration with the perceived stupidity of the other side, and its insistence on being what you consider objectively wrong and still being bullheaded about it.

It comes from perceiving that the work of the other guy is actually NOT working for the "same side." Conservatives can see that liberals often support causes that weaken America, and seek to take down her resolve through divisiveness and self-hatred and pandering to foreign nations even as we wrap ourselves around a thankless but necessary task with little outside help, and at great cost to ourselves.

-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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[billvon 3,114]

> Several neutron bombs over the entire region (including Saudi
> Arabia which we should have gone after for 9/11 payback instead of
> Iraq) would work real good. Kill the vermin and not damage the oil
> facilities.

I'm tellin ya, just let Saddam go and give him lots of military support - we've done it before. He'll slaughter Iraqis much more efficiently than we could. And when he's done, we can just assassinate him for his genocidal ways.

[GravityGirl 0]

With the amount of hate that you harbor Jeff, it seems that you are the one on a self-destructive path.

I hope that you are able to breath long enough one day to realize that we ARE all on the same side.

Without the Yin Yang of our society, we would be so off balance that we would indeed self-destruct. That is the beauty of democracy. Allowing both sides to flourish ensures a balance within our society.

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Peace and Blue Skies!
Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear!

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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With the amount of hate that you harbor Jeff, it seems that you are the one on a self-destructive path.

I hope that you are able to breath long enough one day to realize that we ARE all on the same side.

Without the Yin Yang of our society, we would be so off balance that we would indeed self-destruct. That is the beauty of democracy. Allowing both sides to flourish ensures a balance within our society.

I don't have so much hate that it interferes with normal functioning. I do recognize the fact that much is wrong with the world that certainly does not need to be, and I get frustrated by that, yes.

I have always had issue with the notion that we have to have the "yin and yang" like you say in order for things to be good. It sounds good, but it's specious.

Do I have to have an accident in order to know it's good to drive safely?
Does a family have to have a black sheep who goes to jail for committing a crime in order to know it's good to have four honest, good kids (personal example)?
Do I have to eat dogshit in order to know how good chocolate tastes?
If we did not have the yin/yang thing going on politically in this country, it would by definition mean that all parties agreed and were of one mind. There would be no need for the yin for the yang, for the balance you mention, because everyone would want yang! It would be all we knew, and it would obviously feel right.

Yes, there is no top without bottom, no right without left. Some say there is no good without bad, but I think the premise stops short of that. It's true, you would not know to call it "good" if you had no "bad," but that does not change the fact that you would still LIKE the thing that you did not know would be called "good."

Think about it. If you had never tasted a bad thing in your life, and someone gave you something delicious, would you fail to enjoy it?! You don't need to suffer bad in order to enjoy good: we are programmed to.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[Red_Skydiver 0]

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Several neutron bombs over the entire region (including Saudi Arabia which we should have gone after for 9/11 payback instead of Iraq) would work real good.

Get your facts straight, the war with Iraq is not connected with 9/11.

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I don't have so much hate that it interferes with normal functioning.

I'm sure Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Ho Chi Min, Pol Phot, Adolph Hitler, Atilla the Hun etc could all say the same thing. All were capable of functioning quite normally.

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It's the year of the Pig.

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If this doesn't make you sick..........and piss you off, I don't know what will.

So it's not the fact somebody gets killed but simply the way it's done ?

Well, once you manage to handle your emotions, try to think rationally. Try really hard to think as if you were from the third country. Then you will likely manage to understand that people who are doing this, at least a large part of them, had their own countrymen killed in front of them. Their own women and children, and they have seen it in person - not on the web. What is shocking for you have been done to them on an uncomparably more horrible scale. The only difference is that it itsn't customarily shown on CNN. Thousands of civilians dying from bullet or shrapnel wounds suffered longer and harder than a beheaded hostage. They know who has done it to them and the nature of this enemy. Their eyes are wide open.

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If these videos and the school slaughter in Russia don't open some people's eyes, as to the true nature of our enemies, we are all doomed.

Take it from a russian, who has been shoked and had a fury of emotions over this. My obvious emotional reaction is "to nuke the fuckers", but logically i understand very well why they do it and how they feel. Their feeling is exactly "nuke the fuckers", using whatever simplier means at hand.

Unfortunately you are the fucker, from a point of view shared by hundreds of millions of people. Try to understand this. You can either escalate it to the level of another global World War or you can try to resolve it by behaving like a human being and stopping being a fucker. Unfortunately countries rarely behave like human beings...

bsbd!

Yuri.

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I'm sure Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Ho Chi Min, Pol Phot, Adolph Hitler, Atilla the Hun etc could all say the same thing. All were capable of functioning quite normally.

That's just cruel. There's a big difference between slaughtering people and ranting and raving in an internet environment with no violence behind it. I don't care how pissed off PJ gets, as long as he doesn't come hunting everyone who disagrees with us down.

Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda

[Rebecca 0]

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The world will always be filled with unintelligent people who act like they're the authority on everything when in fact most of them are very uneducated losers who have nothing else better to do than complain about life every moment they get.

Tuna, you're absolutely right. They're everywhere, aren't they?

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Get your facts straight, the war with Iraq is not connected with 9/11.

Of course Iraq wasn't directly connected to 9/11. Saddam was however supporting terrorism because of his hatred for the U.S. Payments to the families of Palestinian Terrorists encouraged more terrorism is only one example. Other examples have been debated endlessly here for a long time. Do a search and make your own judgement.

[wmw999 2,587]

That was a great post. Thanks.
I'm glad we have the BASE jumpers reading here
Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I'm glad we have the BASE jumpers reading here

This forum is moderated by two of them

bsbd!

Yuri.