Anyone want to see the true nature of our enemies?

[Tonto 1]

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as long as he doesn't come hunting everyone who disagrees with us down.

Yet.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

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Yet.

t
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Hmm, good point.

Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda

[kelel01 1]

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Several neutron bombs over the entire region (including Saudi Arabia which we should have gone after for 9/11 payback instead of Iraq) would work real good. Kill the vermin and not damage the oil facilities.

So you want to kill the innocent civilians in that area that you (not personally, just people with similar views as yours) claim are our reason for being there? DO YOU NOT SEE HOW FUCKED UP THAT IS?

[skycop 0]

[So it's not the fact somebody gets killed but simply the way it's done ?

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Yes it is. I don't know what you are trying to imply, but the beheading of an unarmed and bound hostage is not acceptable in any shape, matter, or form.

Well, once you manage to handle your emotions, try to think rationally***

I make a living handling my emotions. This is merely a reminder that we (the civilized world) must be determined against Islamic radicalism.

Unfortunately you are the fucker, from a point of view shared by hundreds of millions of people. Try to understand this. You can either escalate it to the level of another global World War or you can try to resolve it by behaving like a human being and stopping being a fucker. Unfortunately countries rarely behave like human beings...

Hmm..... America is also a beacon of hope to many hundreds of millions of people. In case you missed it, these extremeists want you, me, my kids, your family DEAD. We ARE in a global war, YOU can choose to ignore that fact, the killing of these people is just one example. "Nuke the fuckers" is not a rational response and you never heard me say that. Cold determination is.

Evidently you consider America a beacon of hope. You are evidently enjoying the freedom to BASE jump or whateverelse you enjoy.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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With the amount of hate that you harbor Jeff, it seems that you are the one on a self-destructive path.

I hope that you are able to breath long enough one day to realize that we ARE all on the same side.

Without the Yin Yang of our society, we would be so off balance that we would indeed self-destruct. That is the beauty of democracy. Allowing both sides to flourish ensures a balance within our society.
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I don't have so much hate that it interferes with normal functioning. I do recognize the fact that much is wrong with the world that certainly does not need to be, and I get frustrated by that, yes.

I have always had issue with the notion that we have to have the "yin and yang" like you say in order for things to be good. It sounds good, but it's specious.

Do I have to have an accident in order to know it's good to drive safely?
Does a family have to have a black sheep who goes to jail for committing a crime in order to know it's good to have four honest, good kids (personal example)?
Do I have to eat dogshit in order to know how good chocolate tastes?
If we did not have the yin/yang thing going on politically in this country, it would by definition mean that all parties agreed and were of one mind. There would be no need for the yin for the yang, for the balance you mention, because everyone would want yang! It would be all we knew, and it would obviously feel right.

Yes, there is no top without bottom, no right without left. Some say there is no good without bad, but I think the premise stops short of that. It's true, you would not know to call it "good" if you had no "bad," but that does not change the fact that you would still LIKE the thing that you did not know would be called "good."

Think about it. If you had never tasted a bad thing in your life, and someone gave you something delicious, would you fail to enjoy it?! You don't need to suffer bad in order to enjoy good: we are programmed to.

this is a common misconception about yin/yang. Yin/Yang = balance of opposite forces in nature. such as cold/hot, wet/dry, male/female, etc.

It does not mean you have to have an equal balance of good and bad. The good vs bad thing is a seperate deal.

What is bad is having some sort of imbalance of these opposite forces.

So its not correct to say that yin/yang means you should have suffering or evil along with pleasure & goodness.

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...or you can try to resolve it by behaving like a human being and stopping being a fucker.

I don't believe that most political groups stop at self-determination.

The problem is religious and cultural. The Muslims believe that the religion and culture of the West is a threat to their own culture. This is probably true. The believe it must be changed. Changed to one of their liking.

Your theory is that the West brings these attacks on itself by its actions. If the Muslim world were allowed to dictate the actions and culture of the West, then there the attacks would not end until the West was run by a theocracy like Iran.

People in the West view Muslim culture as denigrating towards womens rights and so many other cultural changes. A step backward to their own 14th century society.

I think that it is a naive belief that the West can do anything short of total capitulation to appease the Muslim terrorists. There is no middle ground. If so, I would like to hear a good solution.

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You want to see them.. Go here.. www.ogrish.com

I think everyone should see this crap. We all need to know what they are capable of doing.

Rhino

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I'm tellin ya, just let Saddam go and give him lots of military support - we've done it before. He'll slaughter Iraqis much more efficiently than we could. And when he's done, we can just assassinate him for his genocidal ways.

Yep.. Let him go.. This time make him promise to do something good

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So it's not the fact somebody gets killed but simply the way it's done ?

How it is done means alot.. A bullet to the back of the head is BAAAM!!! Over!!!! You slice and hack someones throat off and they are in terror for at least a minute or so as they realize what is happening to them. The good thing is they have "a chance" to make their peace with God if that is what they believe.

Notice these men allways seem very sedated? None of them are really kicking and screaming like one would expect...

My observation....

I have watched EVERY be-heading video. We must know and be reminded what these people are capable of.. Know your enemy...

Rhino

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So it's not the fact somebody gets killed but simply the way it's done ?

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Yes it is. I don't know what you are trying to imply, but the beheading of an unarmed and bound hostage is not acceptable in any shape, matter, or form.

Neither should be killings of thousands of unarmed civilians - but nobody in US seems to really give a damn while it's done from a distance and for their own good. They are all hostages in a way, expected and accepted collateral damage. Sick!!!

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Evidently you consider America a beacon of hope. You are evidently enjoying the freedom to BASE jump or whateverelse you enjoy.

This is the funniest shit i have ever seen on this forum!

You can't be serious, can you ? If i were drinking a cup of coffee i'd have spilled it from here to Texas. In case you are still wondering, US has the least freedom to BASE jump in the entire world.

A beacon of hope is about as wrong as it gets too. I consider US a lost cause, what freedom that's still left is diminishing every day. US still is a fat cash cow, but that is slowly changing too.

"Nuke the fuckers" was my own emotional response, as is a logical conclusion of many people on this forum. Unlike them you do think, and i respect that. But when you start the war you get the war, and eventually it will come home in a big way. I know it first-hand, US just got a taste of it and the main dish is coming sooner rather than later.

bsbd!

Yuri.

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How it is done means alot.. A bullet to the back of the head is BAAAM!!! Over!!!! You slice and hack someones throat off and they are in terror for at least a minute or so as they realize what is happening to them. The good thing is they have "a chance" to make their peace with God if that is what they believe.

How lame. Yeah, a hostage is in terror for a minute and you are horrified. Now thousands of innocent people in Iraq (or Yugoslavia or dozens of other places) suffer for hours, days or weeks in incredible pain from a civilized and humane bullet or cluster bomb wounds before they die. They fully realize what is happening to them. You don't seem to show much emotion about that, because you choose not to. Sick!!!

bsbd!

Yuri.

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You don't seem to show much emotion about that, because you choose not to. Sick!!!

The thing you miss is the purpose. There is no reason other than shock value to hack someone's head off with a knife.

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
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[MC208B 0]

no shit Sherlock. I said in my post that Saudi Arabia was the culprit

[Frenchy68 0]

There is no reason other than shock value to hack someone's head off with a knife.***
In our day and age, that's a HUGE reason. Seen by millions, it (unfortunately) has great psychological value (read trauma).

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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I don't have so much hate that it interferes with normal functioning.

I'm sure Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Ho Chi Min, Pol Phot, Adolph Hitler, Atilla the Hun etc could all say the same thing. All were capable of functioning quite normally.

t

Oh, okay, not only is BUSH to be put on a level with Stalin, Mao, Min, Pot, Hitler (you forgot Idi Amin!) but so am I!!

OMG you are hurting me I'm laughing so hard!!!!!!
ouch, my sides and my face!!

Talk about losing all perspective, Tonto! Likening me to dictators who have killed MILLIONS?! I haven't even killed ONE person! (Still looking...)

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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as long as he doesn't come hunting everyone who disagrees with us down.

Yet.

t

Dude, that is a really fucked up, assholish thing to say, and I resent it, and I think you should apologize for it.

Implying that someone has violent tendencies, and imlying that they may go on a rampage against fellow posters here in dropzone.com is, as far as I'm concerned, a personal attack.

-Jeffrey

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There is no reason other than shock value to hack someone's head off with a knife.***
In our day and age, that's a HUGE reason. Seen by millions, it (unfortunately) has great psychological value (read trauma).

Exactly!!

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
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[skycop 0]

Hmm.........
You are here, not in Russia right? I don't know you, so this is a guess but, I'm assuming you make some sort of living here also(according to your profile). This living must good enough to provide a means for you to enjoy certain activities.
I'm also assuming this living would be hard to make elsewhere.

Neither should be killings of thousands of unarmed civilians - but nobody in US seems to really give a damn while it's done from a distance and for their own good. They are all hostages in a way, expected and accepted collateral damage. Sick!!! ***

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The United States Military spends more money on precision guided munitions than any other in the history of warfare. The rules of engagement are such to absolutely minimize civilian casualties, normally at great peril to our own troops.
Your response is typical of people who ignore these facts.

Also I'm sure there is not much BASE jumping in Islamic extremist run states either.

Enjoy yourself here my friend, there are many people that have paved the way for you to be here.

BLUE SKIES

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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[Tonto 1]

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I haven't even killed ONE person! (Still looking...)-Jeffrey

And chastise me when I say "Yet."

And you want an apology?

I don't think so...

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[Tonto 1]

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There is no reason other than shock value to hack someone's head off with a knife.

Was the US invasion not named "Shock and Awe"?
Of course they're trying to shock you. You certainly tried to shock them.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[akarunway 1]

What is hard to understand about loathing people for doing things that you believe are flat-out wrong, stupid, dangerous, illegal, unconstitutional, or that simple endanger freedom and liberty? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------_Are we talking about Rumsfeld, Ashcroft and Tom Ridge and their domestic policy AGAIN?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[happythoughts 0]

Christian, Jewish, or Western culture, in general, is not Muslim. I do not believe that Muslims wish to peacefully coexist with the other religions of the world.

I believe that as long as non-Muslim culture exists, the Muslims will be at war with it. What do you think?

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I don't drink coffee. Could you imagine if I did?!

Now THAT is a scary thought.

[Shotgun 1]

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Go to MichaelSavage.com and watch the video of the 1st American hostage being beheaded.
If this doesn't make you sick..........and piss you off, I don't know what will.
If these videos and the school slaughter in Russia don't open some people's eyes, as to the true nature of our enemies, we are all doomed.
This is true war in every sense, just fought differently.

Hmm, yes that does make me sick. War is not very pretty, is it?

And while we are on the subject of getting sick and pissed off:
http://www.allied-media.com/aljazeera/VICS.htm

So what do we do to stop all of this violence?

[billvon 3,111]

>I believe that as long as non-Muslim culture exists, the Muslims will
>be at war with it. What do you think?

Nonsense. Most Muslims have absolutely no problems with other people believing whatever they want. It's the crazies that are the ones who become terrorists. We should go after terrorists, not religions.