Should they have called Nine One TWO??

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

From MSNBC:

Bus full of Brazilian Policemen Robbed"

I mean, that country is a laughing stock when it comes to crime.
Their murder rate is through the roof.
Cops kill innocent people living in poverty on the street.
Organized gangs contract out to break people out of prison for a fee!
Carjackings got so bad at intersections that they decriminalized running stop signs and lights during nighttime hours -- if you don't stop, you can't get accosted and jacked!

And now a busload of cops gets robbed, and are helpless to do anything about it. No suspects yet apprehended!

Should they have called "912"?!

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[JohnRich 4]

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The bus with 46 unarmed policemen from northeastern Paraiba state was headed to the city of Salvador in Bahia when two cars with armed robbers forced them to stop on the country’s main interstate highway Tuesday.

“The robbers took their cameras, cellular phones, wallets and even the sports uniforms and sneakers,” a police spokesman said.

And Brazil is in the process of outlawing guns for civilians, so that everyone can be just as helpless against crime as these policemen were.

Then the criminals will all magically transmogrify into little angels, and quit robbing people! Woohoo!

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From MSNBC:

Bus full of Brazilian Policemen Robbed"

I mean, that country is a laughing stock when it comes to crime.
Their murder rate is through the roof.
Cops kill innocent people living in poverty on the street.
Organized gangs contract out to break people out of prison for a fee!
Carjackings got so bad at intersections that they decriminalized running stop signs and lights during nighttime hours -- if you don't stop, you can't get accosted and jacked!

And now a busload of cops gets robbed, and are helpless to do anything about it. No suspects yet apprehended!

Should they have called "912"?!

Here you go.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

That Simpsons line is largely why I said "912."
Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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And Brazil is in the process of outlawing guns for civilians, so that everyone can be just as helpless against crime as these policemen were.

Then the criminals will all magically transmogrify into little angels, and quit robbing people! Woohoo!

Leftist pansy ninnies in the U.S. have made clear what gun control in the U.S. is about, and the motivation is spreading to Brazil, apparently.

See, leftist pansy ninnies are too cowardly to fight for themselves, so they pay to empower a police force to do it for them (even though that police force has no obligation to protect any individual, and generally fails to).

So the leftist pansy ninnies see others -- gun owners in particular -- who have the fortitude to arm themselves and learn how to defend themselves against violent criminals, and stand read to do so, and these ninnies get antsy and self-conscious about their own inability and unwillingness to have that kind of courage. It makes them feel inadequate -- and justifiably so!

Since it makes them feel bad about themselves, they seek to prohibit anyone else from being empowered to fight violent criminals on his own behalf. If you make everyone else no better than you, you don't have to feel bad about not measuring up to them.

Where crime control is concerned, that means taking away the guns that the courageous people would use to fight criminals. "If I can't do it, no one should be able to do it." That's their operating principle.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"See, leftist pansy ninnies are too cowardly to fight for themselves, so they pay to empower a police force to do it for them"

I'm with you 100%, its far better to have gangs of right wing fascist hoplophiles roaming the streets administering justice in their own way, as and when they see fit.
Organised police forces are simply a waste of tax payers' money, and should be globally disbanded immediately.
Anyone who can't see the benefits of this arrangement simply isn't analysing the situation correctly.
Think of the money that could be saved if we adopted this form of justice, no police, no judges, and no steenkin' lawyers.
The sooner the rest of the world wakes up and allows their capital cities to be run like Baghdad the better.
Yeeehaw.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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"See, leftist pansy ninnies are too cowardly to fight for themselves, so they pay to empower a police force to do it for them"

I'm with you 100%, its far better to have gangs of right wing fascist hoplophiles roaming the streets administering justice in their own way, as and when they see fit.
Organised police forces are simply a waste of tax payers' money, and should be globally disbanded immediately.
Anyone who can't see the benefits of this arrangement simply isn't analysing the situation correctly.
Think of the money that could be saved if we adopted this form of justice, no police, no judges, and no steenkin' lawyers.
The sooner the rest of the world wakes up and allows their capital cities to be run like Baghdad the better.
Yeeehaw.

Ahh, I see, unable to discern anything in the middle ground between extremes, huh Nac?

Can't fathom the idea of a populace who are secure in their homes because they can keep modern, functional firearms there with which to defend themselves? It's inconceivable, I know.

And I couldn't possibly have meant that police forces are not adequate to protect all of the people all of the time, and that the citizens deserve the right to the means to do so for themselves.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Ahh, I see, unable to discern anything in the middle ground between extremes, huh Nac?"

Its a common trend PJ.

"And I couldn't possibly have meant that police forces are not adequate to protect all of the people all of the time"

So when you said..
"so they pay to empower a police force to do it for them (even though that police force has no obligation to protect any individual, and generally fails to). "

What did you really mean?

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

I was referring specifically to the idea that is argued by leftists, i.e. "The police are hired to do the job to protect us, and therefore the common citizen should not attempt to do so for himself."

They opine that we should do nothing, or virtually nothing, to effect our own protection, simply because we have a police force -- even though, as is plainly obvious every single day, that the police are not able to protect every citizen on a personal basis, and that the protection they offer is only in the abstract sense.

Case law has settled that the police cannot be held responsible for failure to protect any given citizen from criminal predation. But leftists of the type I cited still seek to deny us the right to keep and bear arms in part on the basis that we shouldn't need them because we have the police. It's a fallacy, and I won't subscribe to it.

Am I clearer to you now?

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Am I clearer to you now?"
No.

Edit to add.....

Unless widespread approval to carry guns, in public, (preferably automatic, with flash suppressors and bayonet fixings), is widely adopted, owning guns probably would not have saved these guys.
I mean what is the point of having an AK-47 with high cap clips if you can't carry it with you at all times? Because, lets face it, the time you are going to need it, is not the time to have it securely locked away, stored separately from the ammunition.

Everybody carrying big fuck off guns all the time, on the bus to work, in the pub, in the traffic jam on the loop. Everyone, crack heads, angry teens, drunks, people going through divorce, soccer hooligans, all of them all armed and carrying in public, now thats what I'm talking about.
Society will be so much safer with this approach, I'm not surprised that this what you want to legitimise.

Or will we only allow nice, normal, sane, and stable people to have the good toys?

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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"Am I clearer to you now?"
No.

Edit to add.....

Unless widespread approval to carry guns, in public, (preferably automatic, with flash suppressors and bayonet fixings), is widely adopted, owning guns probably would not have saved these guys.
I mean what is the point of having an AK-47 with high cap clips if you can't carry it with you at all times? Because, lets face it, the time you are going to need it, is not the time to have it securely locked away, stored separately from the ammunition.

Everybody carrying big fuck off guns all the time, on the bus to work, in the pub, in the traffic jam on the loop. Everyone, crack heads, angry teens, drunks, people going through divorce, soccer hooligans, all of them all armed and carrying in public, now thats what I'm talking about.
Society will be so much safer with this approach, I'm not surprised that this what you want to legitimise.

Or will we only allow nice, normal, sane, and stable people to have the good toys?

Congratulations, nice strawman you set up and beat the shit out of there. Big tough guy. Makes a specious argument on my behalf, even though I never made it myself, and blows it up.

You have made the false assumption that anything I said endorses the idea of "Everyone, crack heads, angry teens, drunks, people going through divorce, soccer hooligans, all of them all armed and carrying in public."

I have NEVER endorsed the idea of the people who are currently prohibited from carrying guns being allowed to do so. By those, I mean the mentally ill, substance abusers, felons, fugitives...

YOU set up the bullshit strawman that "it would be a good idea to let these people all have guns and walk the streets with them."

You're damn rigth I am talking about law-abiding, honest citizens. You going ahead and pretending you don't know that does not change anything.

And I am not talking necessarily about everyday carry of long arms. Even a Glock 22 is considered an "assault weapon" if it has a 15 round magazine that was made after the "ban."

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Should they have called "912"?!

stonecutters were disbanded soon after homer joined. safe to assume the number was disconnected.

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"Am I clearer to you now?"
No.

Edit to add.....

Unless widespread approval to carry guns, in public, (preferably automatic, with flash suppressors and bayonet fixings), is widely adopted, owning guns probably would not have saved these guys.
I mean what is the point of having an AK-47 with high cap clips if you can't carry it with you at all times? Because, lets face it, the time you are going to need it, is not the time to have it securely locked away, stored separately from the ammunition.

Everybody carrying big fuck off guns all the time, on the bus to work, in the pub, in the traffic jam on the loop. Everyone, crack heads, angry teens, drunks, people going through divorce, soccer hooligans, all of them all armed and carrying in public, now thats what I'm talking about.
Society will be so much safer with this approach, I'm not surprised that this what you want to legitimise.

Or will we only allow nice, normal, sane, and stable people to have the good toys?

What in the hell is "having an AK-47 with high cap clips" supposed to mean? What is a "high cap clips"???

mh

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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What in the hell is "having an AK-47 with high cap clips" supposed to mean? What is a "high cap clips"???

He doesn't know! He probably thinks that the "assault weapons" subject to the ban "sprayed bullets."

We are dealing with people who don't understand even the basics about the things that they think they want banned.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"