rhino 0 #1 September 15, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3657744.stm I have a feeling we have just created our own set of future American "Osama's" These guys had Osama in their sites and were abandoned by Washington. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #2 September 15, 2004 if they were stupid enough to trust the government in doing a job like this, without backing up any and all evidence they had that they were working for them somewhere else, with someone else who could corroborate their story and take it the US media if necessary to pull their ass out of a sling…. i have little sympathy for them.... don’t dance with the devil if you don’t have an escape plan... What makes you believe they had ANY credible leads on Osama? Sounds like they didn’t think ALOT of things through very well. i'm not sure i'd give them credit with being smart/aware enough to track & catch Osama....they seem pretty gullible based on the news reports. Trust the government? OUR government… lol… i can almost imagine them being used as 'bait' but when their actions got out of hand and became an embarrassment.......____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #3 September 15, 2004 Wasn't the consensus of opinion the last time this subject came up that these were a bunch of whack jobs hiding behind a story that Donald Rumsfeld himself was personally giving them their orders!? Get real - I said it last time and I'll repeat it here. If they'd said they were fed orders by a CIA spook I could believe them, but claimaing they were in direct contact with the SOS for Defence just highlights them as nutters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #4 September 15, 2004 >These guys had Osama in their sites and were abandoned by Washington. They were a bunch of nuts torturing people in a foreign country, and will now be prosecuted under a justice system we helped create. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #5 September 15, 2004 Quote>These guys had Osama in their sites and were abandoned by Washington. They were a bunch of nuts torturing people in a foreign country, and will now be prosecuted under a justice system we helped create. DING! As well they should be. Follow the rules - in Kerry's case - as close as seems relevant to your future presidential bid - But I digress. . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #6 September 15, 2004 I am quite confident that they were hired by a government agency to do whatever it was they were doing over there. I know for fact that at least one government agency was actively recruiting *civilians* in late 01 through at least mid-02. The types they were scouting were well-trained ex-military with a certain *profile,* who would be able to operate in Afghanistan with little or no support for extended periods of time. I was told these *civilians* would be working independently or in small teams. I am surprised these guys are talking as much as they are, but it seems they are getting fucked in both directions. That part doesn't surprise me. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #7 September 15, 2004 QuoteThese guys had Osama in their sites and were abandoned by Washington. Highly unlikely. He's suffering from delusions of grandeur. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3569552.stm He'll have a good time in a Kabul prison though, plus he'll get what he deserves. Theres a saying that when a bird flies over Afghanistan it does so with only one wing, the other is covering his ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #8 September 15, 2004 > I am quite confident that they were hired by a government agency >to do whatever it was they were doing over there. I hope for all our sakes that the US is not hiring private individuals/companies to kidnap and torture people in a country we "liberated." We supposedly learned our lesson at Abu Ghraib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 September 15, 2004 Agencys like BlackWater are still looking for people like those you describe, but they also don't seek out those people convicted of fraud using the militarys name. Talk to some of the people that have had dealings with this guy like LouDiamond and they all say he's a fraud. Lure of millions in reward money and a Rambo complex will lead people to do strange things.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #10 September 15, 2004 I've posted this before but, when I was in Afghanistan in 2002, there was a guy from the US running around, going cross-border, and gathering intel...on his own. He’d stop by our safe house and tell us stuff in the hopes that we’d share some with him. We wouldn’t even let him in past the front gate so he couldn’t profile us. He was just some idiot roaming around, not under anyone's control, and not under our protection. They're out there. I say that, if you're going to take the risk and do something like that, you'd better be prepared to pay the price. Their price seeing as how it's their laws that you've broken. I don't have sympathy for these guys. They can say that they were authorized to do what they did and that they were associated with our guys at the top but, until there's something to prove that, everything else is just conspiracy theory crap. Those prisons over there suck. We interrogated some poor bastards in one of the Northern warlord's prisons. About 50% of them in the jail had Tuberculosis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #11 September 15, 2004 QuoteTalk to some of the people that have had dealings with this guy like LouDiamond and they all say he's a fraud. Did I miss something somewhere? mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 September 16, 2004 QuoteTheres a saying that when a bird flies over Afghanistan it does so with only one wing, the other is covering his ass. Is that like the quote from another post (sorry, don't recall who actually made it) about "Federal fuck-me-up-the-ass prison"? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites