Kerry: Respected in the World?

[Jib 0]

Kerry's new add claims that he's respected in the world. Aside from Vietnam, where and why?

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[tunaplanet 0]

Because they did that skewed bullshit poll asking the "world" who they would vote for in the election if they were allowed and he "won" hands down.

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[kallend 2,150]

If you get much more shrill on the topic of Kerry, only dogs will be able to hear you.

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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If you get much more shrill on the topic of Kerry, only dogs will be able to hear you.

OMFG look who showed up to call OTHER people shrill! LOL!!

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Kallend, PeacefulJeffrey,

If you find yourself making a one line post more focused on a poster than the topic of discussion, perhaps you ought to refrain.

Calling each other shrill is pretty silly. Discussing why you disagree is significantly more productive, educational and interesting.

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[burbleflyer 0]

Apparently he rates below Putin and equal with Martha Stewart.
He edged out OJ by a point.

[turtlespeed 226]

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Apparently he rates below Putin and equal with Martha Stewart.
He edged out OJ by a point.

lol
Yeah - check the drudge homepage.

There it is in all it's glory - the trust Kerry has instilled.

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[Botellines 0]

Here in Spain, most people thinks that Bush is an uncultural moron who cannot read or write properly and is unsuitable for POTUS. Respect = 0/10
Most people is afraid as well of the damage he has done and will continue doing to the international stability.

About Kerry, the news don´t say much, except that he is running against Bush. No mention to his continues flip-flops. To be honest the media doesn´t talk neither about Bush´s domestic fuck-ups like economy etc. So Kerry IS respected because he has the chance to stop Bush, although not for his own merits. He is not very well known around here.

[Kennedy 0]

So apparently the idiotic "anybody but Bush" syndrome is not limited to stateside.

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[Zenister 0]

there is nothing 'idiotic' about getting rid of a bad (or what you perceive as bad) leader. I'm sure ALOT of people wish we had better choices, but when has an election NOT been about choosing the lesser of two evils? after all they are all politicians, most of whom have never worked a real day in their lives...

Most people i've talked to (on any side of the fence) ARE voting for who they believe will fuck up the country less....sad but true...

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[Botellines 0]

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So apparently the idiotic "anybody but Bush" syndrome is not limited to stateside.

You don´t get it. It is not anybody but Bush. Bush has been president for 4 years, and he has shown what he can do for the U.S and for the rest of the world. Many, many people is unhappy with his performance, and if you are honest with yourself and under a capitalist world, if the U.S was a large compañy and Bush his advisor, he would have been fired long ago.
Now, no one is so naive to think that Kerry is the right president, He may not even make a decent one, but under the present circumstances, the safest thing to do is to vote the one who is going to damage the country less hoping that within four years, you will have a decent candidate to POTUS.

[nigel99 619]

I wouldn't say it is anybody but Bush. I would say that Bush has the least respect of any president of the US for a long time (in I can't comment on before Reagan era)...

I would say that Kerry is an unknown and he certainly hasn't had the international effect/recognition that Al Gore had.

I would classify Bush = disliked, Kerry = disinterested.

You also need to remember that the Democrats in the US think more like the rest of the world - and hence are usually better perceived. This is not mean't to slam the conservative wing of US just they appear to think differently to most other people...

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[storm1977 0]

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I wouldn't say it is anybody but Bush. I would say that Bush has the least respect of any president of the US for a long time (in I can't comment on before Reagan era)...

I would say that Kerry is an unknown and he certainly hasn't had the international effect/recognition that Al Gore had.

I would classify Bush = disliked, Kerry = disinterested.

You also need to remember that the Democrats in the US think more like the rest of the world - and hence are usually better perceived. This is not mean't to slam the conservative wing of US just they appear to think differently to most other people...

Com'on... Not before the regan era?? That was only includes 4 presidents. That isn't even 10% of the presidential history of this country.

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[nigel99 619]

I am not a US citizen.

Can you name the last 5 prime ministers in the UK?

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[Ron 10]

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Here in Spain, most people thinks that Bush is an uncultural moron who cannot read or write properly and is unsuitable for POTUS. Respect = 0/10
Most people is afraid as well of the damage he has done and will continue doing to the international stability.

I know English is a second lauguage for him...but anyone else find that funny?

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About Kerry, the news don´t say much, except that he is running against Bush. No mention to his continues flip-flops. To be honest the media doesn´t talk neither about Bush´s domestic fuck-ups like economy etc. So Kerry IS respected because he has the chance to stop Bush, although not for his own merits. He is not very well known around here.

So maybe if your people were INFORMED they might be better able to makea good choice?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[winsor 236]

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I am not a US citizen.

Can you name the last 5 prime ministers in the UK?

yes

Tony Blair
John Major
Margaret Thatcher
James Callaghan
Edward Heath

[christelsabine 1]

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I know English is a second lauguage for him...but anyone else find that funny?

Yes Ron, me:
Spanish is not your second language, but English is your first, right?

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So maybe if your people were INFORMED they might be better able to makea good choice?

"... able to makeawhat ?..."

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[Ron 10]

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Yes Ron, me:
Spanish is not your second language, but English is your first, right?


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So maybe if your people were INFORMED they might be better able to makea good choice?

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"... able to makeawhat ?..."

Hey thats funny also.

But the point that his people don't get any info about Kerry, but they want him to win? That is all about the "anybody but Bush" camp.

And I think thats pretty lame that people have an opinion without knowing both sides.

In this case Kerry IMO is MUCH worse than Bush...But some folks claim otherwise , but they don't know anything about Kerry...What sense does that make?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[christelsabine 1]

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But the point that his people don't get any info about Kerry, but they want him to win? That is all about the "anybody but Bush" camp.

Right. In that I have to confirm you and like to refer on what Bottelines said in his posts. Even our German newspapers (and my local this morning confirmed that in clear words) do not have too much material about Kerry. OTOH, using the description "flip-flopper" for Kerry here is normal, too.

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And I think thats pretty lame that people have an opinion without knowing both sides.

That's only half right, seen from beyond.

Bush's "outcomes" are well known. His results inside and outside the US. His past (which I personally do not consider as a factor of highest importance ...
And most important to us: Iraq.

Kerry, on the other side, shows himself completely different. And with him too, I do not mind his past.
So: We would expect him to do a better job. The impression he leaves is a man with higher trustworthiness, higher IQ, more cultivated background....I think you know what I mean, no need to go into every details.

So Kerry is only half-known.

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In this case Kerry IMO is MUCH worse than Bush...But some folks claim otherwise , but they don't know anything about Kerry...What sense does that make?

The sense is - or the hope? - he will change something fundamentally, f. e. associate with the rest of the world?

Christel

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[Ron 10]

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And I think thats pretty lame that people have an opinion without knowing both sides.

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That's only half right, seen from beyond.

How can it be a good idea to have an opinion with only half the facts?

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Kerry, on the other side, shows himself completely different. And with him too, I do not mind his past.
So: We would expect him to do a better job. The impression he leaves is a man with higher trustworthiness, higher IQ, more cultivated background....I think you know what I mean, no need to go into every details.

Trustworthiness? Have you checked these?
Kerry the WAR Criminal

Kerry in a nutshell


I mean he admits to commiting war crimes, and flips and flops all over the place...How can you trust a guy that commits crimes, and that can't stay on one side of anything?

Higher IQ? They both came from Yale within two years of each other.

I can grant you he seems more cultured....But how can you have 6 million plus dollar holmes and claim to understand the poor?

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The sense is - or the hope? - he will change something fundamentally, f. e. associate with the rest of the world?

All Kerry is interested in doing is becomming President....Then if he can get killed in office he will live out his dream...To BE John Kennedy.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Botellines 0]

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I know English is a second lauguage for him...but anyone else find that funny?

If you think my second language is funny you should hear Bush speak spanish, or English for that matter.
I caught the irony of the sentence. I do think it is funny that i was talking about how bad Bush is and i make those mistakes. It is just that it gets old after a while that people picks on spell and grammar. I assure you that i could write much much better than what i normally do, i just don´t think it is necesary to take the time to do it since for me it doesn´t come up naturally. Besides my points are well understood (albeit disagreed) even with those spell and grammar mistakes.

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About Kerry, the news don´t say much, except that he is running against Bush. No mention to his continues flip-flops. To be honest the media doesn´t talk neither about Bush´s domestic fuck-ups like economy etc. So Kerry IS respected because he has the chance to stop Bush, although not for his own merits. He is not very well known around here.

So maybe if your people were INFORMED they might be better able to makea good choice?

[christelsabine 1]

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How can it be a good idea to have an opinion with only half the facts?

And? Is it your voting or ours? What's about lack of time? Present proper candidates earlier to the world and we will be able fully to check out. Much better: Present more candidates.

I checked out your red sig lines several times, is not impressing me.

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...flips and flops all over the place...How can you trust a guy that commits crimes, and that can't stay on one side of anything?

That's why I do not trust Bush and deep inside do not trust Kerry! But do prefer him as the smaller evil.

Talking about this seems to be turning around endless discussion, like the crazy cat chasing her tail endlessly -

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But how can you have 6 million plus dollar holmes and claim to understand the poor?

From which red book is that?

And poor guy Bush was born in the ghetto, right?

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Then if he can get killed in office he will live out his dream...To BE John Kennedy

And then let him dream forever and you reach out for another qualified candidate!

Give this guy Kerry a try - he cannot be worse than GWB.

What's about that:

Send the 2 guys into the deep bush (or mountains) w/o any weapon, the might show their survival skills.
The winner will be the winner

My personal idea...

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[Ron 10]

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Give this guy Kerry a try - he cannot be worse than GWB

Only your opinion...

I like the US not being a socialist country.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[christelsabine 1]

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I like the US not being a socialist country

Ron, "socialism" is a collective name. The way you use it sounds like "communism". That is completely different.

Social democrats, just that simple, not "socialists". And we have various parties, yes we have.

Hey, did you know that we are allowed to vote? Have free speech and all that stuff? No birthright on owning weapons, no. But: right to throw eggs on our chancellors, if we like...

Wonder how you consider Europe/Germany?!?
But thats another party.

dudeist skydiver # 3105