How many Kerry Supporters make over 75K?

[flysister 0]

I would really like to know if there are any Kerry supporters out there that make above $75,000/year......

Don't just reply with a yes......tell me what you do for a living and if you are a business owner.........etc.

I would like to have a genuine discussion with all those interested.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

Nope. And the last time I did a Dem was in office.

Also - I have only been unemployed while we had a GOP candidate in the White House.

What do I do? Sales in the IT world.

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[kallend 2,150]

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I would really like to know if there are any Kerry supporters out there that make above $75,000/year......

Don't just reply with a yes......tell me what you do for a living and if you are a business owner.........etc.

I would like to have a genuine discussion with all those interested.

I am an anyone-but-Bush supporter, I make well over $75k, and I think his tax cuts were an absurd mistake. Used to own a small software business, now just a professor.

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[ahegeman 0]

Of course that is all because of who's president. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with normal business cycles.

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[kallend 2,150]

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Of course that is all because of who's president. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with normal business cycles.

Maybe the "normal" business cycle is influenced by who is the president? The deficit certainly is.

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[skydyvr 0]

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Maybe the "normal" business cycle is influenced by who is the president?

Absolutely.

That's why the economy started down the hill when Clinton was president.

That's why the recession wasn't as bad as it could've been with somebody besides Bush in office.

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[ahegeman 0]

Of course it is, to some extent. But there are many other factors. Mr. Bo's field, IT sales, got hit because the bubble popped. Bush had been president for all of a couple months when the NASDAQ collapsed, and IT spending along with it. His statement was trying to draw a specious parallel between Republican administrations and his own fortunes.

Can we then say that the current recovery and rapid growth in GDP is all Bush's doing as well? Maybe a bit, but certainly not entirely. The (very large) company I work for is investing like crazy right now to take advantage of the bonus depreciation that Bush pushed through Congress.

Don't get me wrong - I think Bush has made some mistakes with the economy, most notably the deficit. Not because of the tax cut, but because of increased spending. The Republicans are exploiting a flaw in our system, trying to buy their way to continued power with handouts to anyone who can round up a few lobbyists. I'd have a lot more respect for Bush if he'd maybe veto a spending bill or two. I like tax cuts, but tax cuts with increased spending at the same time is moronic, and worse than no tax cuts at all. Any boost to the economy from the tax cuts may have been offset by uncertainly about what effects the deficit will have. Both parties need to grow up about spending and realize that robbing Peter to pay Paul is not a sustainable policy.

As much as I hate to admit it, Kerry just might be better for the economy, but not because his ideas are better. The children that always seem to be running our government don't have the discipline to keep spending in check on their own. The programs Kerry has promised would make the deficit even worse, even if the tax cuts expire. However, the Republicans in Congress would ensure that'll never happen, and Kerry's vetoes would ensure that none of the Republicans' pet projects get funding. Deadlock works.

Sad though, that the best that we can hope for is deadlock, rather than an influential political philosophy that is actually good for the economy.

Sorry for the thread drift.

edited for a spelling boo-boo

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[TomAiello 26]

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I am an anyone-but-Bush supporter, I make well over $75k, and I think his tax cuts were an absurd mistake. Used to own a small software business, now just a professor.

That's funny. I'm non the other side of this particular election, and I haven't made more than $20k in any of the last three years.

So much for the stereotype that high income makes you vote republican, and low makes you vote democrat.

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[Jib 0]

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Of course it is, to some extent. But there are many other factors. Mr. Bo's field, IT sales, got hit because the bubble popped.

Wasn't it the dotcom's failure to pay their bills for what they previously bought as much as it was their not ordering anything?

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[headoverheels 334]

More than double that, engineer, presently working
for a former consulting client, but had my own consulting business for 15 years.

My brother, lawyer, way more than me, partner in small law firm.

[billvon 3,120]

>Of course that is all because of who's president. It couldn't
>possibly have anything to do with normal business cycles.

That depends. If the economy is just acting strangely - it's no one's fault; it's a normal business cycle. If it gets better, it's all due to Bush's tax cuts. If it gets worse, it was Clinton's fault. Haven't you been watching FOX news?

[ahegeman 0]

Sure, some say that, but that's hardly what I posted. If Kerry wins and the economy keeps moving in its current direction I'm sure some will be saying that its the "Kerry Recovery" and others will be saying it was because of Bush.

And no, I don't watch Fox News. I've been watching CNN where we're in the "Bush Recession" and all the good jobs are being lost to overseas slave labor.

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[Muenkel 0]

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Haven't you been watching FOX news?

Bill, it is evident in many of your posts that you do not give any credibility to FOX news. Have you asked yourself why FOX news consistently beats every other cable news network in the ratings? Do you think that they are beating their competition because so many people are sheep and certainly not as intelligent as you?

Chris

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[skydyvr 0]

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Haven't you been watching FOX news?

If FOX gave Kitty Kelly three days to present her unbiased and totally accurate book to the public, would you finally give them credit for being fair and balanced?

I don't hear you or any other liberal criticizing NBC for doing it.

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[matthewcline 0]

But remember, the deficiet cycle is a few years behind. The current Pres is still working out from the clinton era, just like clinton had to work out from the Bush era, and Bush had to work out from the Reagan era.

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[ahegeman 0]

And that's even without FOX being on in many markets.

The reason is simple. People watch the news that reflects their beliefs. This country is about half "liberal" and half "conservative", using the modern definitions of the words. ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNBC, MSNBC, and CNN all have to fight over the liberal half, and they cater to that market with their consistent liberal bias. FOX caters to the other half with its consistent conservative bias, and has it all to itself.

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[skydyvr 0]

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FOX caters to the other half with its consistent conservative bias, and has it all to itself.

Hehe, two posts ago you wrote that you don't even watch FOX News. I bet Billvon doesn't either.

Do you have any facts which back up your claim that fox is "consistently" biased to the right? Do you have any data, or are you just blindly spewing the party line.

Since you don't watch FOX, you're obviously saying something you heard from someone else.

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[ahegeman 0]

Oh no, you got me! I've been found out as simple-minded liberal sheep. Oh, the shame. I don't watch Fox News anymore, but I used to watch it quite a bit. My statement to billvon was just to point out that CNN is biased too, just in the other direction.

In their pure news segments, Fox is pretty good, but the editorializing still sneaks in there every so often. No, I don't have any data, but I know what I see.

What I was mostly referring to is the opinion shows, which are supposed to be biased. A conservative is more likely to enjoy watching the opinion shows on Fox than on any other network, but a liberal has a much wider variety of liberal commentators to choose from across many networks, so Fox enjoys the benefits of a less fractured market. That was my point. That is all. Good grief.

Given that I donated $500 to Bush/Cheney in April that would be an odd "party line" for me to choose to "spew".

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[skydyvr 0]

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In their pure news segments, Fox is pretty good, but the editorializing still sneaks in there every so often. No, I don't have any data, but I know what I see.

This assessment is a bit different than saying FOX has a "consistent conservative bias", and I agree with it.

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[billvon 3,120]

>Have you asked yourself why FOX news consistently beats every
> other cable news network in the ratings?

Cause they tell people what they want to hear. They are experts at determining their market and tailoring the news to fit. Nothing wrong with that; it's capitalism in action.

>Do you think that they are beating their competition because so
> many people are sheep and certainly not as intelligent as you?

Do you think Howard Stern is so popular because intelligent people listen to him?

[billvon 3,120]

>Do you have any facts which back up your claim that fox
>is "consistently" biased to the right?

I know you really don't want an answer to this, but what the heck:

A recent study showed that FOX viewers believed some of the most common right-wing myths far more often than viewers of any other station. The misconceptions were:

Most of the world supported the US attack on Iraq
There is a clear link between Al Qaeda and Iraq
WMD's have been found in Iraq (the study was before even those old shells were found)

Story here.

It should be noted that other networks have viewers with misconceptions as well; they are only slightly better than FOX.

>Since you don't watch FOX . . .

You know what they say about assuming.

[skydyvr 0]

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>Do you have any facts which back up your claim that fox
>is "consistently" biased to the right?

A recent study showed that FOX viewers believed some of the most common right-wing myths far more often than viewers of any other station. The misconceptions were:

I KNEW this answer was coming from you, because it has come so many times before.

I believe the phenomenon revealed by the study has less to do with what FOX puts on the air and more to do with the fact that a lot more right wingers watch FOX than anything else (for good reason).

That's right, right wingers watch FOX and the lefties watch everything else. But the question is -- where are the moderates tuning in these days? Take a look at the ratings changes over the last few years and take a wild guess.

FOX -- it's not just for sexually repressed Christian busybodies, anymore.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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I would really like to know if there are any Kerry supporters out there that make above $75,000/year......

You can make 100k in the Bay Area and not being able to buy a home. Yet the vast majority of this region will be voting Kerry, not Bush.

It doesn't really matter how I vote, given CA will go for Kerry with neither party doing anything but fundraising here. But I'll probably vote Kerry or no one.

Gun concerns aside, I presumed that Bush would lower taxes and keep spending in check. I though Gore would maintain or raise taxes and increase spending. It's easy to change taxes, it's nearly impossible to lower federal spending.

Since he jacked up the deficit and much of the reasons are actually his actions and not the economy cycles, he doesn't deserve my vote now. Kerry can earn my vote if he makes a real proposal for shoring up the budget/SS problems.

[ahegeman 0]

Don't hold your breath.

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