Al Gore speeding ticket video

[tunaplanet 0]

Not sure if this has been posted but I found this and chuckled. You can watch the actual video. Pretty funny.

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[kelel01 1]

That was sort of funny, but man, that was some sensationalistic bullshit. "We were the first to bring you this story, blah, blah, blah . . ." And what an impact that story had. Glad someone got it out there for us.

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[TypicalFish 0]

I actually think it is HILARIOUS that they ticketed him anyhow...

Wow, a whole 2 MPH break...

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[Kennedy 0]

Those two miles an hour can mean a world of difference to your fines and insurance rates.

He wasn't two MPH over the limit, he was two MPH over a difference in charges.

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[akarunway 1]

They say the posted speed limit was 55. I would venture to guess you could be arrested for (reckless driving) more than 20 over also. Preferential treatment for a politcian again.

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[tunaplanet 0]

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Preferential treatment for a politcian again.

Ummm, he gave him a ticket. Special treatment would be to let him off.

Listen to the part where the officer says they do that for a lot of people.

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[Jimbo 0]

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Preferential treatment for a politcian again.

Oh, BS. Police officers do that all the time.

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[Zenister 0]

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Those two miles an hour can mean a world of difference to your fines and insurance rates.

He wasn't two MPH over the limit, he was two MPH over a difference in charges.

this is true however, if you go protest the ticket a 2 mph difference is negligible .. there are no commercially available radar emitters that have so accurate a margin of error. Many officers are well aware of this and so DO offer the lower speed/fine unless your a complete ass about it....

the majority of radar guns are being used outside of spec in the first place, handheld, unstable, moving platform, poor or no calibration, used on a partially masked tgt etc.... but people blindly pay the fines without realizing how they are being fleeced... which of course is good for the income of the county/city/state, but not so good for accurate enforcement or civil rights.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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the majority of radar guns are being used outside of spec in the first place, handheld, unstable, moving platform, poor or no calibration, used on a partially masked tgt etc.... but people blindly pay the fines without realizing how they are being fleeced... which of course is good for the income of the county/city/state, but not so good for accurate enforcement or civil rights.

We all know we're guilty of speeding. The inaccurate radar doesn't change the fact that we're going 75-80 whether the freeway is marked 55 (like too much of Oregon) or 75.

Hopefully the LEOs will choose to enforce it against those who pose the greatest risk - tailgaiting, frequent forced lane changes, speeding in rain/fog, etc. Unfortunately, not always the case, and instead in some cases is used for selected harassment or purely for revenue. In my two recent tickets (1998, 2000), they definitely cut me a break for writing it up at 15 over instead of reality. And in both cases I clearly stuck out as the right person to nail, if someone had to pay the price.

[Zenister 0]

quite often it is not the 'speeders' who are creating an unsafe condition. It is those who refuse to follow the flow of traffic.

PS. if you ever get a ticket with a speed determined by radar gun in the rain....go to court.. and remember to ask what the radar cross section of a raindrop is

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[narcimund 0]

Al Gore lets his cell phone ring in the movie theater then he takes the call and just chats up a storm. No wonder he only got 12% of the vote for president!

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[Deuce 1]

What a polite guy.

If he didn't know about the microphone and video, I am really impressed with how civilized he was to get a ticket.

I like Al Gore more.

[tunaplanet 0]

Can you imagine if Gore went off on a tirade while unaware he was being recorded? ROFLMAO.

Yes, Gore was very polite. I always liked him in a way.

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Can you imagine if Gore went off on a tirade while unaware he was being recorded? ROFLMAO.

Yes, Gore was very polite. I always liked him in a way.

I didn't. I have the impression that most of the Democrat power structure has disdain for wage earners. (Theresa and John Kerry would stun me, I think)

I was nicely surprised by his civility.

Southern folks usually are nicer than the rest of us Americans. At least they usually observe the forms.

Honestly, I don't like the man's politics, but that's true for lots of my friends. But I like Al more.

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PS. if you ever get a ticket with a speed determined by radar gun in the rain....go to court.. and remember to ask what the radar cross section of a raindrop is

LMAO...I did that once. Doesn't it depend on how close the raindrop is to the end of the emitter? No, I didn't get off, but I did get the lowest possible fine. Jackass got me doing 47 in a 40, 2am in the rain.

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[Zenister 0]

yup and the intensity of the rain overall..

some cops make the mistake of giving tickets that say "such and such speed" when their instrument isnt capabible of determining that beyond reasonable doubt, same things apply if you are clocked while closer than 10 m from a larger vehicle, the resolution on handheld/car mounted emitters isnt that good...... the smart ones give you a ticket for "failure to exercise due caution". Which is totally a judgment call on the officers part and there can be no argument with that... but the fine is usually much less as well, which points out that income is often as much of a driving factor as safety.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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quite often it is not the 'speeders' who are creating an unsafe condition. It is those who refuse to follow the flow of traffic.

PS. if you ever get a ticket with a speed determined by radar gun in the rain....go to court.. and remember to ask what the radar cross section of a raindrop is

There's nothing safe about speeding in the rain with no following distance. It passes for normal on the freeways here. And surprise, rainy days lead to lots of 3-5 car fender benders. As long as people who wish to obey the speed limit and/or common sense stick towards the right, it works out fine. Left lane dwellers are the biggest problem in Los Angeles.

If you get ticketed by the Highway Patrol, radar or not, you'll have a hard time fighting it. While the locals are often sloppy, the CHP rarely is, and their reputation alone will win over the judge if they want to lie.

I'll go along with the indignation of the set speed limits, but I know exactly how far over the limit I'm going too.

[InflightSupv 0]

Well, at least it lets me know that if Mr. Trooper comes a knockin' on my window then I better just shut up and take the ticket. Get a lawyer to fight it later or plea down to traffic school or whatever. If Al can't get out of it, then I definately wouldn't.

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[TypicalFish 0]

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I didn't. I have the impression that most of the Democrat power structure has disdain for wage earners. (Theresa and John Kerry would stun me, I think)

While this may be true, in my observations, the Republican leadership is just as bad, if not worse, and have no problem with "talking down" to those who they believe are of lower status...

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[kelpdiver 2]

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Well, at least it lets me know that if Mr. Trooper comes a knockin' on my window then I better just shut up and take the ticket. Get a lawyer to fight it later or plea down to traffic school or whatever. If Al can't get out of it, then I definately wouldn't.

Just remember not to admit to anything if you do want to contest. Anything you say will be noted on the back of the ticket.

My understanding of Oregon is that it's pretty hard to get out of speeding tickets. They like going a bit slower there.

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If you get ticketed by the Highway Patrol, radar or not, you'll have a hard time fighting it. While the locals are often sloppy, the CHP rarely is, and their reputation alone will win over the judge if they want to lie.

the Georgia State Patrol has lost to me twice for using their equipment out of specs... judges tend to take the opinion and facts of recognized experts in radar technology over those of an officer who is incapable of answering the most basic questions about how his instrument works or the conditions under which it is accurately, properly used and agrees with the conditions under which the ticket was given on the video from his cruiser. Lies on the part of the officers would be meaningless if you have the evidence to prove your side of the case.

Both were thrown out for lack of evidence and I only had to pay court costs. I’ve challenged 6 tickets in various jurisdictions on the basis of improper use of equipment. In 4 of those cases i paid nothing more than court fees, the other two i was cited for 'failure to exercise due caution'. I’ve also been let off with warnings on two occasions when the officer realized he was ‘over his head’ right away.

I'm not advocating excessive speeding or tailgating in the rain or otherwise (btw distance from another vehicle applies to object resolution from any angle) I am pointing out that the claims made by LEO's based on their instrument readings cannot always be substantiated.

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