jumper03 0 #1 September 9, 2004 Anyone had a chance to play with this yet? Impressions? How does it stack up against the venerable 1911? Jump ---------------Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #2 September 9, 2004 Is it just me? Or does the mechanisms look VERY reminiscent of the Walther PPK / P-38? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #3 September 9, 2004 Well, the ad I'm looking at right now says it's "a completely new .45 Auto caliber pistol, based upon the proven Ruger P97..." MSRP of $548.00Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 September 9, 2004 Hmmm... Let's see. Recoil with tilt barrel. Single or double action with a long pull on double action. Trigger to sear link along the left side of the gun with the link broken at the sear end by the slide going back. drop hammer safety on the slide. The stripped view of it looks strangely familiar... Here's the Ruger... Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #5 September 9, 2004 ...And the Walther Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #6 September 9, 2004 Maybe you should look at the Walther P-99 - 9mm or .40"s&w... and it even comes in Macho Black! http://www.carl-walther.de/englisch/defense/defense-36.html http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg14-e.htm http://www.usagunsales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=usagunsales&Product_Code=DAV-120206&Product_Count=&Category_Code= http://www.usagunsales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=usagunsales&Product_Code=DAV-120212&Product_Count=&Category_Code= Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 September 9, 2004 QuoteHow does it stack up against the venerable 1911? [troll mode on] Nothing stacks up against the 1911. [troll mode off] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #8 September 9, 2004 QuoteQuoteHow does it stack up against the venerable 1911? [troll mode on] Nothing stacks up against the 1911. [troll mode off] hehe... from the ad- "The world has seen a lot of changes since 1911. Apparently some designers believe that time has stood still. While classics certainly have their place, serious sidearms require the benefit of modern thinking, combining the best of the old with the best of the new" bolding is mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 September 9, 2004 But - but - but - It has a PISTOL GRIP!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 September 9, 2004 The old 1911 sucks compared to modern arms. The new 1911 based weapons kickass, Kimber, Baer, Wilson, etc. I'm still a huge Glock fan, though.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 September 9, 2004 Quote"The world has seen a lot of changes since 1911. Apparently some designers believe that time has stood still. While classics certainly have their place, serious sidearms require the benefit of modern thinking, combining the best of the old with the best of the new" Are you calling 1911 model '45's "not serious"? Huh? Them's fightin' words! They're pretty darned serious if you're a criminal or enemy and you're staring down the barrel. The Mauser bolt-action design for rifles is even older. And yet it is still the most common bolt-action design used in hunting rifles, even to this day. The Mauser brothers done good. Some things are just so near perfection, that hundreds of years of technology can't improve upon them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 September 9, 2004 QuoteSome things are just so near perfection, that hundreds of years of technology can't improve upon them. Nearly 100 years of advancement in the machining processes sure as hell improves them though! Not to mention new technologies in materials.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #13 September 9, 2004 QuoteNearly 100 years of advancement in the machining processes sure as hell improves them though! Not to mention new technologies in materials. I agree with that. It was gun-makers that refined industrial machinery to the point that parts could be made interchangeable, rather than custom hand-fitted only for one particular unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #14 September 9, 2004 QuoteAre you calling 1911 model '45's "not serious"? Huh? Them's fightin' words! Not me! That's what the ad said. I'm in complete agreement. Nothing feels as good in the hand as that Pistol. IMO of course Jump -------------Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 September 9, 2004 I've been to the range with one a few times. I'm no gun writer or advertising puke, but I feels sweet and shoots easy. Not much else I can say. This particular piece just needs to be broken in a bit.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
