Zenister 0 #76 September 10, 2004 you notice me complaining about him not releasing them?? He doesnt have to either... he can choice to or chose not to for any reason under the sun, none of which presumes guilt or skeletons to hide... presuming there is something to hide without evidence is ignorance. your trying to tie a perfectly legal action to the right not to self incriminate?? your the one reaching here... no one needs any constitutional protections to perform or not perform any legal act.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #77 September 10, 2004 Quotesince you do not know the man's mind, that is in no way a 'safe' conclusion. It is an ignorant assumption based on your political view without any evidence to support it.. Call my opinion ignorant all you want, but I'll stick to believing the extremely obvious motivation behind Kerry not releasing his records. Like, duh man. And my view isn't based on political beliefs. If Bush was doing the same thing, I'd take the same stance. Would you? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #78 September 10, 2004 nope. i never make assumptions without evidence. It only leads to false conclusions.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #79 September 10, 2004 Quotepresuming there is something to hide without evidence is ignorance. 1. The evidence is that politicians unfailingly do that which promotes their election to office. 2. So, If Kerry had nothing to hide, releasing his records would go a long, long way toward making that happen. 3. Therefore: he must have something to hide. (see item 1 above for further explanation. Repeat cycle until it sinks in) . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #80 September 10, 2004 Quotepresuming there is something to hide without evidence is ignorance. Kerry is HIDING information that IS the only evidence of the truth. Making an adverse inference from his actions is not ignorance. Blindly assuming the nobility of someone like Kerry is ignorant. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #81 September 10, 2004 there is a fallacy inherent in your reasoning that prevents it from being a logical proposition... perhaps you should look for it??____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #82 September 10, 2004 Quotethere is a fallacy inherent in your reasoning that prevents it from being a logical proposition... perhaps you should look for it?? Since he's apparently not intelligent to have noticed it in the first place, perhaps you should point it out. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #83 September 10, 2004 Quotethere is a fallacy inherent in your reasoning that prevents it from being a logical proposition... perhaps you should look for it?? Common sense is what this is all about. Wanna buy some? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #84 September 10, 2004 QuoteQuotepresuming there is something to hide without evidence is ignorance. Kerry is HIDING information that IS the only evidence of the truth. Making an adverse inference from his actions is not ignorance. Blindly assuming the nobility of someone like Kerry is ignorant. no one is assuming anyone's nobility, unless you are for some strange reason. The TRUTH is he doesnt have to, and can decline to release them for any reason at all. Of course you assume malicious intent from the start, and yet have NO evidence to back your assumption other than a continual assertion that he MUST be hiding something...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #85 September 10, 2004 QuoteQuotethere is a fallacy inherent in your reasoning that prevents it from being a logical proposition... perhaps you should look for it?? Common sense is what this is all about. Wanna buy some? but you have so little to sell...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #86 September 10, 2004 Quote Quotethere is a fallacy inherent in your reasoning that prevents it from being a logical proposition... perhaps you should look for it?? Since he's apparently not intelligent to have noticed it in the first place, perhaps you should point it out. giving away the answer would undermine the didactic process...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #87 September 10, 2004 QuoteThe TRUTH is he doesnt have to, and can decline to release them for any reason at all. Of course you assume malicious intent from the start, and yet have NO evidence to back your assumption other than a continual assertion that he MUST be hiding something... Okay, what evidence separate and apart from his records could exist? You conveniently ignore the swift boat people, the guy who allegedly signed for his star and everyone else who has called into question Kerry's claims. Good enough for an assumption? -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #88 September 10, 2004 Quotebut you have so little to sell... Touche. However, I will continue to make the fairly safe assumption that Kerry is hiding something by not signing zee papers. I'll spare you the long, long list of demonstrated negative character traits that indicate he'd take such a course of action. (otherwise known as "evidence") . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
