Kennedy 0 #1 September 9, 2004 Simple question: Why won't Kerry sign the form releasing all his military records? (this has been brought up in other threads, but I wanted to see some get thoughts on this one topic before the uni-thread theory comes into play)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #2 September 9, 2004 Let's see how many times the words "Bush" and "Republicans/Conservatives" are used in this thread. Mirror tactics are notorious when you put the spotlight on liberals. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 September 9, 2004 I'll be number one. Bush has released every single document relating to his service. So the Republicans/Conservatives have stepped up to the plate. Will Kerry/Democrats/Liberals do teh same? If not, why not?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 September 9, 2004 I'm sorry, but I think it was GWB that didn't release his military records first way back in the 2000 election. If you want to accuse somebody of using this tactic . . . look in the mirror.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #5 September 9, 2004 QuoteI'm sorry, but I think it was GWB That's one. Mirrirs and spotlights...the crutches of all liberals. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 September 9, 2004 Quote Bush has released every single document relating to his service. This is simply incorrect. While they may have made an eventual -attempt- at releasing -some-, records were just recently discovered. To say that the GWB group released "every single document" is simply incorrect -- they didn't find a lot of records and more -did- exist. Who knows how many more exist that no one has found yet?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #7 September 9, 2004 blind ignorance and meaningless diversions, the wheels on the chair of all conservatives... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #8 September 9, 2004 Quotethe wheels on the chair of all conservatives... That's two. So far we haven't heard a peep about the actual thread topic...only smoke and mirrors. Does any liberal want to take a crack at the topic without flipping it around? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 September 9, 2004 Quote Mirrirs and spotlights Never metaphor you didn't like? BTW, it's "Smoke and Mirrors." If you're going to use a metaphor . . . try using the right one. Anyway, I'm not coming to anyone's defense here, simply stating facts. You might try that sometime. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 September 9, 2004 Quote Why won't Kerry sign the form releasing all his military records? Why don't you ask -him-? What are we, mind readers? Oh wait, no we must be magicians with all the Smoke and Mirrors. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 September 9, 2004 Quade Bush signed the paper allowing the armed forces to release any and all documents. It's not his fault the military couldn't find them all. I expect there would be gaps in Kerry's record as well. However, I can't find out becuase Kerry has not signed a very simple form. Think of it this way quade. Let's pretend you and I went to school together. I have some of my work, you have some of yours. Neither of us have it all. So I sign a form allowing the school to release all it's records on me. All that formerly private stuff is now available for private consumption. It's not every exam I ever took, but it's a lot of stuff. You on the other hand only release a few papers that you received good grades on. You could sign the same form I did, but you won't. The question is WHY NOT?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #12 September 9, 2004 QuoteWhat are we, mind readers? So when it comes to bashing the enemy, it's ok to be psychic and speculate. But when you're given a direct question concerning your man, you're all of a sudden incapable of forming any opinions. Hmmmm. Interesting. Sound one sided to you? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #13 September 9, 2004 QuoteQuotethe wheels on the chair of all conservatives... That's two. actually that was four since you missed your own use. Apparently conservatives can not accurately collect data or count very well either.. that might explain the deficit.. but then I’m not a liberal either, I’m just responding to your continually ridiculously general statements.. why doesn’t he? Because he doesn’t have to... but I’m sure you'll continue to speculate in your typical meaningless fashion.. edit for tense correction.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #14 September 9, 2004 QuoteApparently conservatives Three. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #15 September 9, 2004 cant count very well can you??____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #16 September 9, 2004 John Kerry's mood around the office is sometimes atrocious. Often he comes in, walks right to his desk, and doesn't say hello to ANYONE! Moral is slipping. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 September 9, 2004 Oh, I gotta lotta snide comments I could make, but I'll refrain. I already used up my quota on Tuna. Anyway, my -guess- is that there is something he doesn't want everyone to know about. Ok, there I said it. Wanna gimme a cookie? But -what-? WHAT could he possibly not want to be released? Ooooooohhhh, if I was a conspiracy theory wacko, it'd be something really "good" like he was found guilty of cowardice or something, but that's just silly. Certainly something as "bad" as that would have gotten out over the course of his years and years of public service and attacks by people pissed off about things he said -after- he was out of the service. So what does that leave? My further guess -- medical records about his injuries. I'm NOT saying he didn't receive woulds in battle because those record have already been released, but if you look at them closely, you'll see he took shrapnel in his backside. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want my -butt- all over the pages of USAToday. Then again, that's just a guess about one possibility on my part.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #18 September 9, 2004 Good job. Pretty impressive. Took you 5 posts but hey...whose counting Seriously, it's refreshing to see a liberal actually deal with the issue at hand and not flip it around. What does dealing with the topic at hand do? It makes the post by Quade look sincere. It makes him look honest. It makes the party look a little better. I think if liberals and conservatives dealt with the issues at hand honestly and sincerely like Quade just did as opposed to flipping the spotlight, mirroring and other tired tactics progress would be a lot further down the road. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 September 9, 2004 Quote Good job. Pretty impressive. Took you 5 posts but hey...whose counting. It appears as if you were counting . . . or, um, trying to. Anyway, if you really want answers to questions, then you probably -shouldn't- accuse people of dodging the issue before you've given them a chance to say something. It just pisses people off.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #20 September 9, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhat are we, mind readers? So when it comes to bashing the enemy, it's ok to be psychic and speculate. But when you're given a direct question concerning your man, you're all of a sudden incapable of forming any opinions. Hmmmm. Interesting. Sound one sided to you? HOLY SHIT good point! He may not have chimed in here in this thread, but billvon is very fond of saying, "The conservatives will say blah blah blah..." as though he psychically knows our minds... So yes, it's very profound that you point out how reticent the leftists get when it comes to assessing and ascribing motives of their own candidate. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #21 September 9, 2004 the leftists*** I'd love to get a definition of this term. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 September 9, 2004 Quotethe leftists*** I'd love to get a definition of this term. Bigger government with more federal controls, payed for (for a while) with higher taxes. Leftist think that the government knows what is best for the people because they (the people) are not as smart that them (leftist). They know how to spend my money better than me. (Oh, but, since I can't spell or type complete sentences I guess my opinion it mute) Simple huh!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 September 9, 2004 QuoteI'll be number one. Bush has released every single document relating to his service. So the Republicans/Conservatives have stepped up to the plate. What nonsense! He SAID he had done that months ago, but new Bush service documents were released just this week. So that was another Bush lie. There are still Bush service documents missing. So how do YOU know he has released all of them? Answer - you don't, you just choose to believe the lying SOB.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #24 September 9, 2004 For the last fucking time. Bush signed the form. If the DOD didn't know where to find them all, then (A) I'm not surprised, it is a monstrous bureaucracy, and (B) it's not Bush's fault. You act like Bush has had them the whole time and just hasn't put them out there. Why don't you get your story right, or at least get it straight, then try posting something, anything, other than BUSH LIED. So, kallend, direct question to you: Why hasn't Kerry signed the form to allow the release of all his records?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 September 9, 2004 QuoteMy further guess -- medical records about his injuries. I'm NOT saying he didn't receive woulds in battle because those record have already been released, but if you look at them closely, you'll see he took shrapnel in his backside. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want my -butt- all over the pages of USAToday. You mean you'll see that he lied when telling people about his medals, because he has claimed he took that shrapnel in his arm, when really all he did was lose his footing and bruise his arm, then suffer what likely was his second instance of self inflicted would through incompetance? Maybe he doesn't want us to see that he doesn't even have a scar on his ass, and that his medals may be the least serious wounds in combat ever to receive the Purple Heart.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites