Russia and terrorists...

[rhino 0]

Interesting how things change when ones home country is attached and innocent people are killed.

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russia has offered $10 million for information that helps "neutralize" two Chechen rebel leaders, and a military official said Moscow was prepared to strike at terrorists around the world.

[PhreeZone 20]

Russia and Chechen sepertist's have been engaged in this fight for a long time. Its been a long, bloody fight on both sides. Nothing has changed.

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[rhino 0]

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Nothing has changed.

Apparently something has changed. Like Al Queda funding "at least" partially, that school incident.

[TheAnvil 0]

Boortz was speaking about the US granting asylum to a Chechen separatist this morning and Putin being pissed about it. Anybody know anything about that?

Vinny the Anvil
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[Gravitymaster 0]

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Nothing has changed.

Apparently something has changed. Like Al Queda funding "at least" partially, that school incident.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5010670-103610,00.html

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Not a single Chechen has been found among the dead gunmen who took children hostage in Beslan last week, Sergei Ivanov, Russia's defence minister, told the Guardian yesterday. "About half of the 32 terrorists have been identified and we have not yet discovered anyone from Chechnya," he said.

The comment was a clear effort to back up the Kremlin's claim that last week's attack was not a result of Russia's actions in Chechnya.

[mr2mk1g 10]

I’d just like to point out that outside of the US no one is suggesting any direct links between Beslan and Al Qaeda. I think that is something you might look at taking on board. The only evidence to link the two (so far) is the brutality of the attack and the fact that some of the hostage takers were Arabs. Neither fact is terribly surprising given the history of the Chechen conflict and would be likely to exist anyway, even in the absence of any Al Qaeda link.

Just remember that it would serve the US administration well if this was an Al Quaeda attack… maybe even the Russian administration too. So don’t just immediately jump on the idea that this was linked to Al Qaeda. Instead use your impartiality, and your intelligence. Look for evidence backing up newspaper claims and question what you are fed.

[chuteless 1]

I think that Russia should take that $10 million and make Chechnya into one big paved parking lot.

Bill Cole

[CanuckInUSA 0]

The Chechens have stooped to a new low. I find it hard to imagine anyone who could support what they did last week.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[storm1977 0]

FUnny how the Times and CNN and the like won't call a spade a spade!!!

THey are ISLAMIC Terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plain and simple, and they should be wiped off the face of the earth. (the terrorist)

I am sick of the term insurgents, freedom fighters, rebels.... etc etc etc....

Call them what they fucking are ISLAMIC FUDAMENTALIST TERRORIST

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[mr2mk1g 10]

Terrorist? - definitely

Islamic? - some of them almost certainly, there’s a high proportion of Muslims in the population in that part of the world. All of them? - we don't know yet, not all Chechens are Muslim.

Fundamentalist? - again we don't know. It's certainly not Chechnya’s stated goal. Nor is it Ingushetia’s if it turns out to be more to do with them. They are separatists not fundamentalists, ie they're not trying to set up a fundamentalist Islamic government, just their own government independent of Moscow.

[Botellines 0]

and then make a big big church in the middle, right?

[PhillyKev 0]

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I think that Russia should take that $10 million and make Chechnya into one big paved parking lot.

Bill Cole

Yeah, they're not Christians so just wipe 'em out, right?

[storm1977 0]

THey are separatists, and they do want an islamic state separate from Russia. They are and have been funded by groups such as Al Queda....

CALL a Spade a Spade ....

Are these people that Uncivilized?

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[billvon 3,107]

>make Chechnya into one big paved parking lot.

Be an awful lot of parking lots if people here had their way. It would serve us right to make the earth uninhabitable due to fallout because we gave free reign to our hatred. "Yeah, everyone's dead - but at least we killed them _first_!"

[TheAnvil 0]

Parking lots. Fields of glass. Leaves of grass....sticks of dirt.

I don't think turning the entire province of Chechnya into a parking lot would solve anything. These folks still hate the Soviets/Russkis for the massive deporations to Siberia in the 40's/50's. The problems there, like problems many other places in the world, stem from actions taken during the Cold War.

Unsure as to a solution myself. I'd have to think about it. In the meantime, I think that tequila shooters for everyone would be a step in the right direction.

Vinny the Anvil
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[dbattman 0]

Events like this and the WTC attack bring out the true differences between conservatives and liberals.

Conservatives go out and buy a 12-gauge.

Liberals go out and buy the Koran 'to try and understand them'

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[Botellines 0]

Conservatives go out and buy a 12-gauge and a bible

Liberals go out and buy the Koran.

[JohnRich 4]

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The Chechens have stooped to a new low. I find it hard to imagine anyone who could support what they did last week.

That's what I can't understand about this whole terrorism thing.

They've committed so many horrible atrocities. To name just a few:
1) Sept. 11, 2001
2) Beheading 12 Nepalese workers. Video available on the internet.
3) Murder of over 300 school children, parents and teachers.
4) Kidnapping of female humanitarian workers.

Sept. 11, 2001 was committed by Muslims. The atrocities committed in Afghanistan and Iraq were committed by Muslims. The Chechen terrorists: Muslims. The Sudan genocide: Muslims.

So just who the hell do they think is going to be won over to their cause by these acts?

No one has any sympathy for them, with acts like these.

In fact, in the long term, I think they are creating a backlash that will soon lead to worldwide effort to annhilate them. And it may even lead to persecution of peaceful Muslims, where they live in countries that are being victimized by the terrorists.

It won't be long before someone starts bombing mosques here in America, in retaliation. Maybe some old-fashioned lynchings from trees.

WWIII, here we come.

[Casurf1978 0]

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Nothing has changed.

Apparently something has changed. Like Al Queda funding "at least" partially, that school incident.

AQ has had ties with Chechen rebels, but this school incident really doesnt fit their MO. I would say that the downing of the two Russian passenger planes has AQ written all over it.

[TheAnvil 0]

Clicky

Russki's are pissed off and rightfully so.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
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[billvon 3,107]

>Conservatives go out and buy a 12-gauge.
>Liberals go out and buy the Koran.

And the people with sense realize they are in danger and push for changes that will actually increase our security. Not much chance of that shotgun stopping airborne biological attacks, but it sure does make you feel good, eh?

[turtlespeed 226]

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A top Russian general on Wednesday warned the military will strike "terrorist bases in any region of the world," while authorities offered a $10 million reward for information leading to two Chechen rebel leaders blamed for last week's deadly raid on a school.

And I think that the UN should as well.

The Russians have my full support in and of this. It is time to end the terrorism.

This is not at all different than Bush's mission of Iraq, and Afganistan. Both held and supported terrorism.



So I ask you: Why would anyone (Non Islamic) be against taking action?

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[rhino 0]

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In fact, in the long term, I think they are creating a backlash that will soon lead to worldwide effort to annhilate them.

I believe you are 100% accurate.. Let some dick heads start setting off bombs in shopping malls here in the US and you won't be able to by rope fast enough in this country.

[rhino 0]

The game is on now.... Russia now knows how it feels to walk 10 feet in our shoes.

[dbattman 0]

Alright Bill. You're Putin. You've just had hundreds of kids slaughtered by a group of cowards.

You honestly expect me to believe that you wouldn't strap on your butt-kicking boots and go headhunting? Or would you pull everything back and fortify so you can deal with a bigger problem later on after they see you turn tail and run.