jumperconway 0 #1 September 7, 2004 Very thought provoking, http://www.catsprn.com/under_attack.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meltdown 0 #2 September 7, 2004 Anyone interested in this topic should consider checking out a book called "The New World War". It is written by a cultural anthropologist who spent some time immersing himself in the radical islamist culture. Pretty scary stuff to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #3 September 7, 2004 Wow. I'm surprised it doesn't address Kenedy's assassination! Not mentioning the conspiracy to spread AIDS around the world. Damn. He was so close... Flawed with some inadequate statements and at best speculative "facts". History repeating itself... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #4 September 7, 2004 That is a good "Documentary""According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #5 September 7, 2004 Anything that starts with: "I urge all of my readers to make copies of this report and send them to your friends and relatives" Should be given the same credibility that the poor indian girl with no limbs that will get her wheelchair if everybody sends the email 10 times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 September 7, 2004 QuoteAnything that starts with: "I urge all of my readers to make copies of this report and send them to your friends and relatives" Should be given the same credibility that the poor indian girl with no limbs that will get her wheelchair if everybody sends the email 10 times. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 September 7, 2004 QuoteWow. I'm surprised it doesn't address Kenedy's assassination! Not mentioning the conspiracy to spread AIDS around the world. Damn. He was so close... Flawed with some inadequate statements and at best speculative "facts". History repeating itself... What were the inadequate statements and speculative facts you are refering to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #8 September 7, 2004 What were the inadequate statements and speculative facts you are refering to*** The one that bothered me the most was the reference to France (what a surprise, uh?) having 20% of its population being Muslim. As of 2002, the percentage of the French population being of Muslim ORIGIN was under 10%. Indeed a big percentage, but nowhere near the 20% mentioned. Out of these 10%, a significant share was born of Muslim parents, but do not consider themselves as Muslim. There is, of course, another share that has slid towards radicalism, and that should definitively not be ignored (and isn't). But statements like these can be greatly influential in the way that people will perceive a culture or its people, and will judge that country's actions. And since the author seems to use his statistic to make a point, it does bother me that he is using incorrect (and incomplete) data. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #9 September 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnything that starts with: "I urge all of my readers to make copies of this report and send them to your friends and relatives" Should be given the same credibility that the poor indian girl with no limbs that will get her wheelchair if everybody sends the email 10 times. Why? Well, most of the chain letters around the net, start with the same thing. And all of them are false, mainly because you cannot track how many times the email has been sent around. besides, some of the data he presents as facts are obiously wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #10 September 7, 2004 QuoteAnd all of them are false, mainly because you cannot track how many times the email has been sent around. Not entirely true, but I suppose that's another topic. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #11 September 7, 2004 Why do we worry? We got the clear message that it is ok to commit war crimes, be negligent, murder rabe and rob without fear of reprisal, and then 3o Yr ltr we can run for president...."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #12 September 7, 2004 I should have explain myself better. All of the chain emails i have seen in my four years as a network administrator in two diferent ISP has been very false. Maybe you have seen one that wasn´t bullshit. And it is impossible to keep track of how many people has resent a single message due to the email protocol. Tampering both the header and the body is too easy But you are right, this should go in another topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #13 September 7, 2004 >We got the clear message that it is ok to commit war crimes, be >negligent, murder rabe and rob without fear of reprisal . . . Methinks you might not want to bring up the "which candidate caused more killing, torture, rape and other war crimes" angle . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #14 September 7, 2004 QuoteAnd it is impossible to keep track of how many people has resent a single message due to the email protocol. Tampering both the header and the body is too easy I was not debating whether or not the content was true, most would agree that it isn't. However, it is fairly simple to track the number of times that an email message has been opened, and from where it has been opened (think - unique IP addresses). I'll give you a hint, it has nothing to do with SMTP. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #15 September 7, 2004 Quote"which candidate caused more killing, torture, rape and other war crimes" Kerry. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #16 September 7, 2004 QuoteWhy do we worry? We got the clear message that it is ok to commit war crimes, be negligent, murder rabe and rob without fear of reprisal, and then 3o Yr ltr we can run for president.... It's also OK to squander the goodwill of allies, turn a record surplus into a record deficit, preside over a massive increase in poverty and unemployment, break campaign promises about social security and nation building, cut benefits to veterans, go to war under false pretenses and without a workable exit strategy and then lie about it, mismanage the aftermath of said warAND THEN claim that your record is so good you deserve re-election.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #17 September 7, 2004 QuoteIt's also OK to squander the goodwill of allies, turn a record surplus into a record deficit, preside over a massive increase in poverty and unemployment, break campaign promises about social security and nation building, cut benefits to veterans, go to war under false pretenses and without a workable exit strategy and then lie about it, mismanage the aftermath of said warAND THEN claim that your record is so good you deserve re-election. Interesting opinions. Any others? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #18 September 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt's also OK to squander the goodwill of allies, turn a record surplus into a record deficit, preside over a massive increase in poverty and unemployment, break campaign promises about social security and nation building, cut benefits to veterans, go to war under false pretenses and without a workable exit strategy and then lie about it, mismanage the aftermath of said warAND THEN claim that your record is so good you deserve re-election. Interesting opinions. Any others? Here are 1,000 others.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #19 September 8, 2004 >Kerry. With 7000 dead in Iraq, Hussein's torture chambers re-opened, a dozen or so US soldiers indicted for torture, and legal instructions from the White House that talk about how to legally torture someone - you've got no leg to stand on. That's the problem with running on your record. What's the slogan gonna be for Bush? Two more wars! Two more terrorist attacks! Vote Bush; we'll torture those Iraqis some more! Only Bush/Cheney have the guts to reopen Abu Ghraib! We'll take out the little terrorists before they grow up to be big terrorists! 7000 dead? We're just getting started! Stay the course. Perhaps the "Ignore our record; look at Kerry's!" tack they are taking now is not such a bad idea after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #20 September 8, 2004 Quote which candidate caused more killing, torture, rape and other war crimes" Kerry Oh man, thats horrible! Why that ? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #21 September 8, 2004 What? a bum that does not even go to work and is a war criminal, confessed.....Nope."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #22 September 8, 2004 Why, becuase he confessed under oath after coming back from Nam... clicky"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #23 September 8, 2004 QuoteWhy, becuase he confessed under oath after coming back from Nam... [url ttp://www.streamload.com/jmstein77/kerry2.mp3]clicky Hmmmmm, that sounds quite familiar to me: Wasn't it just his job?? Or a soldier (rank? don't know!) is supposed to do? Correct me, if I am wrong. There is something important on what he said: It sounds true! That is not that common. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #24 September 8, 2004 QuoteWhy, becuase he confessed under oath after coming back from Nam... clicky You fail to understand what you claim to have read. .... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #25 September 8, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhy, becuase he confessed under oath after coming back from Nam... [url ttp://www.streamload.com/jmstein77/kerry2.mp3]clicky Hmmmmm, that sounds quite familiar to me: Wasn't it just his job?? Or a soldier (rank? don't know!) is supposed to do? Correct me, if I am wrong. There is something important on what he said: It sounds true! That is not that common. Read the entire thing, not just out-of-context clips. www.c-span.org/.../jkerrytestimony.asp... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
