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BTW nice attempt to divert attention from the trouble Kerry could be in
Typical liberal spin, huh? Can't come up with the right answer, so point the finger at someone else and say they're wrong!
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BTW nice attempt to divert attention from the trouble Kerry could be in
Typical liberal spin, huh? Can't come up with the right answer, so point the finger at someone else and say they're wrong!
Right answer to what? To why Bush lied about the deficit, why he lied about unemployment, why he lied about Iraq? You tell me, you like the guy.
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I agree...but WE didn't bring them up.
that is not entirely true - the accumulation of chicken-hawks and
war-theoreticians who would choose to go to wars on ideological
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no personal understanding of this administration is certainly standing
out in recent US history.
That the military record of a counter-candidate would be central was
thus an inevitable reaction that anyone could have predicted.
No, WE meaning the Republicans. Kerry brought it up, regardless of the state of affairs in US politics. We are responding to the veracity of it.
No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is
sick of her shit!
QuoteRight answer to what? To why Bush lied about the deficit, why he lied about unemployment, why he lied about Iraq? You tell me, you like the guy.
Wow, are you personal friends with Michael Moore? There were no lies told about Iraq! You can't lie if you believe what you say, and the belief was that there were WMD's! Lied about unemployment? Because GWB could forsee the 9/11 attacks and know that we would lose jobs? Besides, unemployment is dropping now, jobs are being created - you can't always expect everything to be perfect, so it may not be as many jobs as he would have liked to create, but still, many have been created!
Look, you can bash Bush all you want, but he's done his best with a recovering nation, and he's done a damn good job. He hasn't backed down, and he won't now, either. Kerry's already backed down more than once (for the war, against the war, for funding, against funding).
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QuoteQuoteRight answer to what? To why Bush lied about the deficit, why he lied about unemployment, why he lied about Iraq? You tell me, you like the guy.
Wow, are you personal friends with Michael Moore? There were no lies told about Iraq! You can't lie if you believe what you say, and the belief was that there were WMD's! Lied about unemployment? Because GWB could forsee the 9/11 attacks and know that we would lose jobs? Besides, unemployment is dropping now, jobs are being created - you can't always expect everything to be perfect, so it may not be as many jobs as he would have liked to create, but still, many have been created!
Look, you can bash Bush all you want, but he's done his best with a recovering nation, and he's done a damn good job. He hasn't backed down, and he won't now, either. Kerry's already backed down more than once (for the war, against the war, for funding, against funding).
There were plenty of lies about Iraq. Open your eyes.
Bush's statement on the deficit was in 2002, which you may notice was AFTER 9/11/2001
Bush's statement on unemployment was in 2003, which you may notice is AFTER 9/11/2001
Explain that, please. Lies, or pure incompetence?
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QuoteYou can't lie if you believe what you say, and the belief was that there were WMD's
The president of the US, and his advisers, should be judicious in how they evaluate information. Evaluating it to come up with the answer they already want is not good when you're talking about sendingother people's children to war, and other countries' sovereignty.
Yeah, I know, Iraq was really bad. But there was an awful lot of evidence that the WMD were, in fact, gone. If even the suggestion had been apparent that the US government was willing to actually evaluate that evidence it might have been better. But to many people, it looked like they knew what was "right" and went after it. Unfortunately, much of the "evidence" turned out to be poorly evaluated.
I can decide I'm the best skydiver on the planet based on evidence I choose to evaluate. If I look at all of the evidence, I might not come up with the same answer.
Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
QuoteThere were plenty of lies about Iraq. Open your eyes.
Bush's statement on the deficit was in 2002, which you may notice was AFTER 9/11/2001
Bush's statement on unemployment was in 2003, which you may notice is AFTER 9/11/2001
Explain that, please. Lies, or pure incompetence?
Incompetence? Like I said, jobs HAVE been created, the economy is on the UPswing...you think Kerry can do any better? Here's a good platform - "I want to RAISE taxes!" And if he does get elected and raises taxes, he'll reverse the upswing on the economy that is taking place.
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The president of the US, and his advisers, should be judicious in how they evaluate information. Evaluating it to come up with the answer they already want is not good when you're talking about sendingother people's children to war, and other countries' sovereignty.
Yeah, I know, Iraq was really bad. But there was an awful lot of evidence that the WMD were, in fact, gone. If even the suggestion had been apparent that the US government was willing to actually evaluate that evidence it might have been better. But to many people, it looked like they knew what was "right" and went after it. Unfortunately, much of the "evidence" turned out to be poorly evaluated.
I can decide I'm the best skydiver on the planet based on evidence I choose to evaluate. If I look at all of the evidence, I might not come up with the same answer.
Wendy W.
You make sense, but the administration HAS concluded that the WMD's may not have been present at that time. They have admitted that, at least, was not a valid reason to go to war, but there were many other valid reasons. Second, the children are not "sent" to war; there is no draft, these "children" are legal adults and make the conscious choice to join the military, knowing full well that there may be a time when they have to risk their life for their country. And if they don't realize that, they shouldn't sign up. I admire the people with that sort of courage, and I hate it when they are referred to as though they had no choice in the matter.
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QuoteQuoteThere were plenty of lies about Iraq. Open your eyes.
Bush's statement on the deficit was in 2002, which you may notice was AFTER 9/11/2001
Bush's statement on unemployment was in 2003, which you may notice is AFTER 9/11/2001
Explain that, please. Lies, or pure incompetence?
Incompetence? Like I said, jobs HAVE been created, the economy is on the UPswing...you think Kerry can do any better? Here's a good platform - "I want to RAISE taxes!" And if he does get elected and raises taxes, he'll reverse the upswing on the economy that is taking place.
To say "A will happen" and then the exact opposite of A happens is either a lie or incompetence.
Bush has done this on:
The deficit
Unemployment
Veterans' benefits
Education
to name but a few. The administration's lies on Iraq are so well documented I can hardly believe that you still argue about them.
There's no point debating you if you simply deny documented facts. Continue to believe that the Sun shines from Bush's posterior.
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Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies
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Which policies? Why?
Trade policies, tax rebates, increased spending, pre-emptive war, corporate welfare, energy policies, etc.
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Government spending UP under GWB
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Where is spending up?
"By Cato's accounting, after adjusting for inflation, nondefense spending decreased 0.7 percent during Clinton's first three years in office while it increased nearly 21 percent during the comparable period under Bush.
The Heritage Foundation, usually a White House ally, found that 55 percent of the spending increases since Bush took office had nothing to do with defense or homeland security. The Heritage analysis also concluded that spending had reached $20,000 per household."
"This year, he fought for passage of an energy bill that included $72.5 billion in spending and $23.5 billion in tax breaks, mainly for big energy corporations."
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/7438982.htm
QuoteUnemployment up? Immediately following the dot.bomb era and 9/11? How ever could that have happened? How?
Bush will be the ONLY president since the Depression to go through a first term without creating a single job.
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Health care costs UP
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Why shouldn't it go up?
Because Bush pushed through Medicaire policy that had an opportunity to set price increase restrictions on health care. But instead, they increased Medicaire funding temporarily, and then the health care industry raised its rates by that amount and more.
QuoteYes, it's always the cronies fault. Look, GWB isn't perfect, everybody knows that, but can't you find something better to harp on?
Besides his record and appointees? Don't you think those things are relevant?
Okay, then, tell me what Kerry's platform is. What is he going to do that's so much better? He hasn't managed to sell me on his campaign, can you? If you'd like to try, I'm perfectly willing to listen, but you haven't said anything yet in his defense, you've simply taken stabs at the other side.
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Jib 0
QuoteTo say "A will happen" and then the exact opposite of A happens is either a lie or incompetence.
Bush has done this on:
Unemployment
Veterans' benefits
Education
to name but a few.
Can you explain what you mean by "exact opposite?"
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Let's see.
Education:
Bush said "No child will be left behind"
Then he cut funding for Title I and IDEA so that 2.4 children who are eligible for those programs are left behind because there is not enough funding.
Leaving behind more, is the opposite of leaving behind none.
Veteran's benefits:
Bush promised to make sure veteran's receive more benefits.
Bush doubled VA co-pays and cut $2.5billion in veteran's benefits from the democrats budget proposal.
That's the opposite
Unemployment:
Bush promised to create jobs.
Not one job has been created since he took office.
That's the opposite.
Education:
Bush said "No child will be left behind"
Then he cut funding for Title I and IDEA so that 2.4 children who are eligible for those programs are left behind because there is not enough funding.
Leaving behind more, is the opposite of leaving behind none.
Veteran's benefits:
Bush promised to make sure veteran's receive more benefits.
Bush doubled VA co-pays and cut $2.5billion in veteran's benefits from the democrats budget proposal.
That's the opposite
Unemployment:
Bush promised to create jobs.
Not one job has been created since he took office.
That's the opposite.
Kennedy 0
OK, so apparently WMDs sufficient to kill half a million people are not enough for Kallend to say WMDs have been found in Iraq.
So what's your critical mass? Enough to kill a million people? Ten million? Are you going to count anything but nukes? (which Bush never claimed were there, only that Saddam was trying to aquire them)
So what's your critical mass? Enough to kill a million people? Ten million? Are you going to count anything but nukes? (which Bush never claimed were there, only that Saddam was trying to aquire them)
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Just thought some of you might like to see this:
"New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6. "
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"New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6. "
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kallend 2,148
QuoteOK, so apparently WMDs sufficient to kill half a million people are not enough for Kallend to say WMDs have been found in Iraq.
That's a creative way to describe a few obsolete shells from the 1980s. Not even the Bush Cheney lie machine has made that claim.
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QuoteYour question is a transparent attempt to divert attention away from the liar.
Divert? Have you looked at the title of this thread lately?
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Gee, wouldn't it be nice if he emulated CNO Mike Boorda?
Edit to add: John Kerry hoists himself by his own petard.
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Edit to add: John Kerry hoists himself by his own petard.
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QuoteQuoteKerry? Nothing unless you live in Mass. Bush, kept another huge terror attack from occuring
Kerry represents Mass right now; while it'd be hard to say he's done nothing else, that is his primary job.
Nice perk from someone who is not working isn't it?
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
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QuoteQuoteBush, kept another huge terror attack from occuring.
I bang pots and pans together every night at 11:10PM to keep another terror attack from happening. There hasn't been one, so I take full credit.
Hey Kev, maybe you should help the cause in Argentina and Venezuela
.clicky"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
No, my question is an attempt to expose your continual airchair quarterbacking and negativity. If you have some grand idea or a positive thought (even if it's about Kerry), let's hear it.
BTW nice attempt to divert attention from the trouble Kerry could be in
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