mnischalke 0 #1 September 1, 2004 Just got this: Quote John Kerry told the world we were war criminals who raped, tortured and murdered in Vietnam. Now, thirty-three years later, we will tell America the truth. Join us at the rally we call: KERRY LIED . . . while good men died A gathering of Vietnam veterans from across America Where: Upper Senate Park, Washington, D.C. It is easy to get to, shady and pretty, with a great view of the Capitol dome in back of the speaker's platform. THIS IS A NEW LOCATION AS OF 7/17/04 When: Sunday, Sept 12, 2004 2:00-4:00 PM (EDT) Why: To tell the truth about Vietnam veterans. To counter the lies told about Vietnam veterans by John Kerry All Vietnam veterans and their families and supporters are asked to attend. Other veterans are invited as honored guests. view the flier here. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #2 September 1, 2004 QuoteJust got this: shouldn't that be "BUSH LIED ... while good men got cavities" heard that from the radical NGDFT group. (National Guard Dentists for Truth) and heck ... maybe they missed a good opportunity at the DNC by not doing something with bandages of amalgam stars, purple tampons or such. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 September 1, 2004 QuoteQuoteJust got this: shouldn't that be "BUSH LIED ... while good men got cavities" heard that from the radical NGDFT group. (National Guard Dentists for Truth) and heck ... maybe they missed a good opportunity at the DNC by not doing something with bandages of amalgam stars, purple tampons or such. Cheers, T Does snorting coke give you cavities?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #4 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust got this: shouldn't that be "BUSH LIED ... while good men got cavities" heard that from the radical NGDFT group. (National Guard Dentists for Truth) and heck ... maybe they missed a good opportunity at the DNC by not doing something with bandages of amalgam stars, purple tampons or such. Cheers, T Does snorting coke give you cavities? Speaking of dentists... Who the fuck is supposed to be responsible for the upkeep of KERRY's teeth?! Duuuuude! That guy's got some fugly uthermuckin' teeth! Each one looks to be about an inch and a half long, too! And there's all squished together all narrow-like. Maybe he really is descended from true blue-blood stock -- he's got the British teeth to vouch for it. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #5 September 2, 2004 Ann Coulter today, speaking of sKerry lies.... http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20040902.shtml Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #6 September 2, 2004 QuoteAnn Coulter today, speaking of sKerry lies.... http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20040902.shtml QuoteAnd let's not forget that Kerry was caught telling a big, dirty, stinky lie about being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. What kind of adult tells a lie like that? (Answer: The kind who carries a home-movie camera to war in order to re-enact combat scenes and tape fake interviews with himself.) That's great! -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #7 September 2, 2004 QuoteThe kind who carries a home-movie camera to war in order to re-enact combat scenes and tape fake interviews with himself. So she's saying he's a freeflyer? Is that really all that odd? Given the kind of camera's we have access to today I'd bet many of us would if we found ourselves at war. Does it make that much difference that his camera didn't have a flip our tft screen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #8 September 2, 2004 QuoteIs that really all that odd? Given the kind of camera's we have access to today I'd bet many of us would if we found ourselves at war. Does it make that much difference that his camera didn't have a flip our tft screen? Maybe if he wasn't screwing with the camera he wouldn't have led another boat into a mine. Then again, I wonder how much film disappeared, since he really can't remember what happened. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #9 September 2, 2004 QuoteDoes it make that much difference that his camera didn't have a flip our tft screen? If you compare the cost of the camera (then and now) to the average soldier's income (then and now), and the general widespread (or not) use of video cameras (then and now) it may make a difference. How many soldiers in Vietnam could afford to bring such an expensive toy?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #10 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnn Coulter today, speaking of sKerry lies.... http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20040902.shtml QuoteAnd let's not forget that Kerry was caught telling a big, dirty, stinky lie about being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. What kind of adult tells a lie like that? (Answer: The kind who carries a home-movie camera to war in order to re-enact combat scenes and tape fake interviews with himself.) That's great! And let's not forget that one of his SBVFBI critics, O'Niell, seems to have an identical problem in knowing whether or not he (O'Niell) was in Cambodia. I guess that border is just hard to locate precisely whether you're Dem or Republican.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 September 2, 2004 Both true - but I don't see that simply possessing a camera and simply re-enacting a combat scene tell you much about his ability as a President... IF he played with it to the detriment of your troops then sure, that’s a slur on his character... but that's not what's being claimed. (oh and like the Bush family couldn't afford a camcorder at the time?) News just in - Kerry once owned a camercorder and larked about with it in his free time. Oh the humanity! Dear God, what is the world coming to? This monster once owned a camcorder! What are their policies on the national deficit? What are their policies on adult illiteracy? What are their policies on health? More importantly: why does nobody actually care what their policies are... only who once owned a camcorder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #12 September 2, 2004 QuoteBoth true - but I don't see that simply possessing a camera and simply re-enacting a combat scene tell you much about his ability as a President... I dunno. It could be argued that re-enacting your own combat scenes while still in the war zone shows a certain lack of seriousness in character.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #13 September 2, 2004 QuoteIt could be argued that re-enacting your own combat scenes while still in the war zone shows a certain lack of seriousness in character. I disagree. I think he was very serous about his political career... Making his own interviews; add in a very short stint and questions regarding grenading himself and signing for his own medal. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt could be argued that re-enacting your own combat scenes while still in the war zone shows a certain lack of seriousness in character. I disagree. I think he was very serous about his political career... Making his own interviews; add in a very short stint and questions regarding grenading himself and signing for his own medal. Is that worse than swanning around Texas getting drunk and snorting coke?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 September 2, 2004 I thought you said before that what happened in the past didn't matter.... or does that only count for the Dems?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #16 September 2, 2004 QuoteIs that worse than swanning around Texas getting drunk and snorting coke? Depends on if you're a prohibitionist or not, I guess.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #17 September 2, 2004 QuoteI thought you said before that what happened in the past didn't matter.... or does that only count for the Dems? I suspect you're thinking of someone else. However, I don't think it's as important as what the candidates are doing now. Do you? I am 59. I'd hate to have my life judged on what I did when I was 21.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 September 2, 2004 As a generality, I agree.... extenuating circumstances are, of course, just that... How'd the jumps go this weekend? Hope you had a great time.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 September 2, 2004 QuoteI'd hate to have my life judged on what I did when I was 21 Note to self. Never run for public office as I know the moral majority (basically the hardcore Christian right wingers) would not agree with my past. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #20 September 2, 2004 QuoteAs a generality, I agree.... extenuating circumstances are, of course, just that... How'd the jumps go this weekend? Hope you had a great time. I have a great time on every injury-free skydive.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #21 September 2, 2004 QuoteNote to self. Never run for public office as I know the moral majority (basically the hardcore Christian right wingers) would not agree with my past. Uh, the criticism of the past comes from BOTH sides of the political fence. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 September 2, 2004 QuoteUh, the criticism of the past comes from BOTH sides of the political fence. I see so much hypocracy going on all around here. Yes you are correct in saying that both sides of the fence are guilty of partisan politics. Yet some still feel the need to keep feeding the beast by whining and complaining about why the media picked up on one story or didn't pick up on another one, when they know that these stories have been covered. They just may not have been covered in the way that satisfies their partisan political needs. Just look at the fact that you started a thread about this Miller guy. You're saying that the media didn't cover him. Yet I call bullshit on this one. There is plenty of media coverage concerning this Miller guy. It just may not be satisfying your partisan political views. But it's out there. John Kerry sucks ass ... but GWB sucks Cheney's ass ... There you have it. All politicans suck ass!!! Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #23 September 2, 2004 QuoteNews just in - Kerry once owned a camercorder and larked about with it in his free time. Oh the humanity! Dear God, what is the world coming to? This monster once owned a camcorder! 33 years ago, there was no such thing as a camcorder. There were no video tapes, either. If you had a camera 33 years ago, you shot film. Lots of people had film cameras, but they were rather bulky and consumed lots of film (much more bulk if your camera had audio). Of course there were film cameras rolling in Vietnam, but unless you were a richboy trying to record your "adventures in heroism" for future exploitation while becoming a politician--like your mentor JFK--you were a combat correspondent. Cost and bulk made it otherwise prohibitive. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #24 September 2, 2004 QuoteHowever, I don't think it's as important as what the candidates are doing now. Do you? I am 59. I'd hate to have my life judged on what I did when I was 21. As a public figure, if made every attempt to predicate your character as a hero on what you did when you were 21, then yes, I would say you should be judged upon that. edit: I think it says even more to continue to tell the same lies you made up then. (you figuratively) mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #25 September 3, 2004 QuoteMuch of Kerry's speech before Congress painted his fellow GIs as so brutal that, today, they could easily be mistaken for Saddam Hussein's Fedayeen killers. He reported to Congress that U.S. soldiers had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam." By the following day, April 24, the publicity from the 22nd and 23rd helped draw at least 250,000 demonstrators to the Mall in a massive protest. Kerry, wearing his combat jacket, addressed the rally from the Capitol steps. It is a shame that some of those who fought so well for America can be treated as 'forgotten ghosts' and left to rot as POWs in Hanoi's prisons, while those like Kerry and Fonda, who so passionately supported our enemy and condemned our system of government, are now overwhelmingly blessed by its wealth. www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/video/kerry.wmv --------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
