Botellines 0 #76 September 3, 2004 Quote No, but we might if you decided to invade your neighbors over oil. We wouldn´t invade over oil, only the U.S can do it. Oh, Irak did it too to Kuwait. Uhmm, i wonder if that is what upsets Bush so much, that he only have the prerogative to kill for oil. QuoteAs far as the screw our behinds? I doubt it. There might not be pride or honor in your part of the world, but there damned sure is over here. LMAO. 1.- you give Israel 2 Billion dollars at year. 2.- You give political support no matter what opossing most other countries. 3.- Israel spies on you, the spy gets catched red handed go back to number 1 another example. 1.- a group of terrorist kill 3000 citizens and make your homeland security laughable 2.- You discover that most of the terrorist are saudies. 3.- you attack afganistan 4.- you attack Irak 5.- You keep buying oil and doing bussiness with Arab Saudi. actions speak louder than words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #77 September 3, 2004 QuoteWe wouldn´t invade over oil, only the U.S can do it. Oh, Irak did it too to Kuwait. Uhmm, i wonder if that is what upsets Bush so much, that he only have the prerogative to kill for oil. You sound like a wonk from the liberal media press here. We went in to Kuwait to get Iraq out and to protect Saudi Arabia (because they asked us to.) The free flow of oil at market prices drives the world economy... but if we were invaders, why didn't we just take the oil ourselves instead of continuing to purchase it at market prices? Quote1.- you give Israel 2 Billion dollars at year. Yep, it's blood money to keep them from killing the Palestinians...it's the only thing keeping that part of the world from braking out in to all out war (which Israel would win handily.) Quote2.- You give political support no matter what opossing most other countries. Specifics? Quote3.- Israel spies on you, the spy gets catched red handed go back to number 1 John Pollard is still in jail. The next issue is something we are looking in to. My response is still the same. Quote1.- a group of terrorist kill 3000 citizens and make your homeland security laughable Not any more. We are a free country and got caught because of our freedom. Quote2.- You discover that most of the terrorist are saudies. Yep, but they the trail went back to Osama in Afghanistan Quote3.- you attack afganistan Yep, crushed Al Quaida and the Taliban (for supporting them. Quote4.- you attack Irak Yep, and liberated another nation, who in fact had ignored 14 UN resolutions (which Spain supported mind you.) No one should have voted for them if they weren't willing to take action to enforce them. We did, get over it. Quote5.- You keep buying oil and doing bussiness with Arab Saudi. Yes we do. So what? We are the largest user of oil in the world. It's what drives our economy. Yep, our actions do speak louder than our words. When piss-assed countries like yours get threatened or attacked, or experience some natural disaster, where does most of the financial and humanitarian support come from? How much do we help Spain every year? I'd be more than happy to cut your and other ungrateful countries off, but that would have repercussions to that part of the world that go against our national strategy. No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #78 September 3, 2004 which Israel would win handilyQuote Militarily, no doubt about it. But they have tried to do so (not always full out though) for decades, and are still at the same point. Winning militarily is the easy part. That won't stop suicide bombers from blowing themselves up in supermarkets. Yep, and liberated another nation, who in fact had ignored 14 UN resolutions (which Spain supported mind you.) No one should have voted for them if they weren't willing to take action to enforce them. We did, get over it. Quote UN resolutions: bad excuse Mostly ignored resolutions When piss-assed countries like yours*** Take a deeeeep breath, grasshopper. You're getting very personal. You'll be sent back to the front soon, relax. It's only temporary. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #79 September 3, 2004 QuoteUN resolutions: bad excuse Mostly ignored resolutions Not really, those resolutions mostly condem and deploy, or minor calls to have Israel do the same. They are nothing like the 14 action oriented resolutions against Iraq. However, good point about resolutions. QuoteWhen piss-assed countries like yours Take a deeeeep breath, grasshopper. You're getting very personal. You'll be sent back to the front soon, relax. It's only temporary. Yeah, I just get a little pissed when someone from overseas is obviously harping the liberal media without thinking it though. I do like the exchange of info. I learn a lot. No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #80 September 3, 2004 Dude, if there wasn't the cross Atlantic bashing, we'd be bored, would ignore the Speakers' Corner, and would be sentenced to spend our days doing boring things, like uh...skydiving? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #81 September 3, 2004 Dude, I'm convalescing from hernia surgery. I go back to work on Tuesday, and deploy later this month. I can't wait not to be bored! No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #82 September 3, 2004 Dude, I'm convalescing from hernia surgery*** That definitely explain the surge in your posts on these forums Get well and go back up there (anyone crying yet???) "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #83 September 3, 2004 Quote Yep, our actions do speak louder than our words. When piss-assed countries like yours get threatened or attacked, or experience some natural disaster, where does most of the financial and humanitarian support come from? How much do we help Spain every year? So now, the U.S helps Spain... Do you have any figures? As far as i know it is the EU who does most if not all the helping to its members... Quote I'd be more than happy to cut your and other ungrateful countries off, but that would have repercussions to that part of the world that go against our national strategy. And now all this funding is part of your national strategy... But before it was because you were so good... And now it is strategy. FLIP-FLOP. Now it is to liberate Irak, now it is the WMD, now it is al Qaueda... Dude, thank you for proving my point, but i don´t need your help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #84 September 3, 2004 QuoteSo now, the U.S helps Spain... Do you have any figures? As far as i know it is the EU who does most if not all the helping to its members... Yes I do. Try this and search on Spain. That is only the economic development $...there is more. Wow, look at that, we gave more than $2B to Spain in 2003. I wonder if you can find out how much your precious EU gave you guys for economic development last year? As a matter of fact, we give to all the countries in the EU for economic development. Imagine that...the mighty EU needs subsidies from the evil US. QuoteAnd now all this funding is part of your national strategy... But before it was because you were so good... And now it is strategy. FLIP-FLOP. Now it is to liberate Irak, now it is the WMD, now it is al Qaueda... No, funding Israel is (which is what I said.) We went in to Iraq to quell the posibility of terrorism (Al Quaida...and destroyed 3 of their training camps), and to enforce the 14 resolutions that Iraq ignored (many of which Spain supported.) The WMD argument is a media invention. Bush never stated the reason we were going was because Iraq had WMDs, even though the media goes in to a frenzy about it. QuoteDude, thank you for proving my point, but i don´t need your help. You've done little to prove your point except to rant a left-wing US media approach to an argument, and you misrepresent what I say rather than deal with the substance of it. It's effective for many people who wear out in an argument easily...but since I'm recovering from surgery, this is a good way to kill time. The facts (which you don't link to) don't exist. If so, feel free to link to them if you care to. I'd be happy to learn something through all this. No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #85 September 4, 2004 Quote Yes I do. Try this and search on Spain. That is only the economic development $...there is more. Wow, look at that, we gave more than $2B to Spain in 2003....... Would you help me out there before I proceed reading your complete post? My problem: Already at watching a.m. chart, I had to stop and started pondering over the "more than $2B to Spain" given by the US.... Where is shown that US "gave" that amount to Spain in 2003 ??? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #86 September 5, 2004 What is the "War on Terror". With 9/11, Afghanistan, Dharfur, and the Russian incidents, is this really a War on Terror with the forces of peace on one side and the forces of terror on the other? Or is this in fact a "Holy War" between Islam on one side and Infidels (non Islam) on the other? "Who" has struck at us, and continues to strike at us? What do the victims of this War on Terror have in common. What do the perpetrators of these terror attacks have in common? WHO IS THE ENEMY? This "enemy" has defined their rules of engagement in this war. They WILL deliberately target the innocent. They will deliberately attack the relatively defenceless. Will the "first world", Christians, Jews, Atheists and Agnostics adopt the same tactics against Islam? IS this war about Terror, or is it about religious hatred? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
