Deuce 1 #1 August 31, 2004 DId you see that Giuliani speech? It's over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 August 31, 2004 I agree. It was good and for good reasons, GWB been berry, berry good to NYC when it came to the 9/11 aftermath & Rudy brought home the bacon in return. I did think it was -quite- a bit more negative toward Kerry than just about anything said toward GWB during the entire Democratic convention and that may have some interesting reprucussions in the news. We'll have to see. Tune into C-Span right now and they -should- be taking phoner reax in a few minutes. However, that isn't the speech that matters this week.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #3 August 31, 2004 QuoteI did think it was -quite- a bit more negative toward Kerry than just about anything said toward GWB during the entire Democratic convention Oh, I agree Paul. But he did it so well. He put a smile on the knife in the back. Very scary, very exciting blood politics. Sorry, all. I dig this stuff. I like it when my guy is winning, but I like it anyway. The Colisseum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #4 August 31, 2004 I agree JP! Giuliani hit a Grand Slam tonight. If the tone that was set tonight can continue through Thursday, we're going to see a major bump for GWB. Even Susan Estrich, long-time Democratic Strategist predicts a 5-6% bump for GWB. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #5 August 31, 2004 I was so impressed - Giuliani was amazing, and so was McCain...and while there was negative stuff in it, it was done with incredible style. I loved McCain's poke at Michael Moore... And the whole segment finalizing with Amazing Grace a capella with (I can't remember his name...) who has such an incredible voice. Chillbumps. I had the same thought, Deucy, when I was watching it....here's the winner. I am going to be watching the rest of the convention with great interest, to see if it matches opening night. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 August 31, 2004 Quote And the whole segment finalizing with Amazing Grace a capella with (I can't remember his name...) who has such an incredible voice. [url "http://www.delafont.com/music_acts/daniel-rodriguez.htm"]Daniel Rodriguez, "America's Singing Policeman"[url]quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #7 August 31, 2004 I don't think it will affect the election results much... most people who are going to vote have already decided. This election has been incredibly polarized for a long time. Most people who will be watching either convention are watching it either because they support the candidate and want to hear more, or are wanting to know what the other side's up to. People that are politically motivated enough to watch the convention made up their minds months ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 August 31, 2004 And don't forget the political wonks. Never forget the wonks.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 August 31, 2004 QuoteI don't think it will affect the election results much... most people who are going to vote have already decided. This election has been incredibly polarized for a long time. Traditionally most have decided by Labor Day, but this year could have a lot more undecideds than usual with the swirling economy and the war, which seems really quiet in the news these days but almost certainly is not. I don't think conventions change voters either, but I do think they are a factor in getting people to the polls. And in a close election, getting 1-3 points is certainly something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #10 August 31, 2004 QuoteDId you see that Giuliani speech? No, I've already basically made up my mind who I'm voting for. No speech can ever make facts disappear. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinkster 0 #11 August 31, 2004 i hear that closing your eyes and plugging your ears with cotten helps keep the facts from disappearing too -from brussels (cant wait to be back in the usa) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #12 August 31, 2004 Giuliani's a great speaker. But does anyone actually believe that moments after the WTC attacks he turned to the police chief and said "Thank God George Bush is president."? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #13 August 31, 2004 Bwahahaha!!! Did he really say that in his speech? Uhhh....no...I doubt he really said that in real life!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #14 August 31, 2004 QuoteGiuliani's a great speaker. But does anyone actually believe that moments after the WTC attacks he turned to the police chief and said "Thank God George Bush is president."? Yes...I believe it. I know I was thinking something along those lines when it happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #15 August 31, 2004 QuoteI don't think it will affect the election results much... most people who are going to vote have already decided. This election has been incredibly polarized for a long time. Most people who will be watching either convention are watching it either because they support the candidate and want to hear more, or are wanting to know what the other side's up to. People that are politically motivated enough to watch the convention made up their minds months ago. Night that is where I think you are wrong. THis election will be decided by the independants.... THese are the people right now who are on both sides of the fence. The messages that were and will be put out during the RNC will be strong ones, meanwhile Kerry is still trying to find a stance on issues. We all know what Bushes stance on Iraq, abortion, affirmative action, terrorism is. Kerry hasn't had a stance on these issues at all. He is afraid that taking a strong stance will alienate some of his voters, so he sugar coats and beats around the question. Mr. Kerry what is your stance on Iraq? Not what was it. What IS it. If elected what will you do in Iraq? What will you do for Taxes, education, SS,??????? We know what Bush will do, and even if you don't agree with it, knowing is more comfortable for voters than not knowing. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #16 August 31, 2004 You know what Philly... I do believe it, you know why? Because as I was getting to ready to board the plane at LGA aiport in NY that morning at 8:40, and we were stopped and evacuated and I had to walk through queens only to over a hill and see the TT burning... THen seeing the military might circling over head, I turned to my fiance' and said... "Thank GOD Gore wasn't elected, because I know he wouldn't have the balls to go after those that did this." Maybe you can't understand it Philly.... But to be 2 miles from it, to be trapped there all fucking day, to watch the buildings fall in person and then over and over again on TV.... Maybe you just don't get it. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #17 August 31, 2004 Quote Yes...I believe it. I know I was thinking something along those lines when it happened. Really? My first thoughts were of my friends that work in in New York City and of all the other people and how their lives completely changed that day. Then, shortly after, I thought, "Thank god there are people as brave as the ones in the Fire Dept. and Police Dept."There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #18 August 31, 2004 Quotemost people who are going to vote have already decided. This election has been incredibly polarized for a long time. Yes. And they (I) don't matter. Only the 10% or so who will vote and haven't decided yet matter at this point. QuoteMost people who will be watching either convention are watching it either because they support the candidate and want to hear more, or are wanting to know what the other side's up to. Just like the Swift Boat people, it doesn't matter that virtually nobody saw the original event. Virtually everybody will see news coverage and sound bites of the Giuliani and McCain speeches and that will topple the undecideds into Elephantland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #19 August 31, 2004 QuoteReally? My first thoughts were of my friends that work in in New York City and of all the other people and how their lives completely changed that day. Then, shortly after, I thought, "Thank god there are people as brave as the ones in the Fire Dept. and Police Dept." I was in the Army then. I only knew one person there at the time. He was a Special Forces Medic that I served with. He helped treat people (not that there were many to treat). My first thought was of a quick and decisive response to the attack. I knew we had the right person in command to initiate that counterattack. The former Commander-in-chief demonstrated himself to be one who would always take the passive if not cowardly approach to aggression. This one required that we go on the offense and we did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #20 August 31, 2004 This year everyone seems to be voting for the candidate that they don't hate as much rather than FOR anyone and the issues are a little different too. So, I think there are probably a lot of people who don't know what they're going to do as compared to years past. In fact, if there were a moderate Dem candidate, I would probably be close to the fence and [cringe] maybe even undecided. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 August 31, 2004 QuoteYes...I believe it. I know I was thinking something along those lines when it happened. I said the same thing to my roommate. This was right after the first plane hit and right before the second one hit. Yes I was worried for the folks in NYC, I had 8 friends (Aggies) that worked in that area (they were ok, thank god), but I knew there was nothing I could do for anyone worrying.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #22 August 31, 2004 Yuck. I didn't think, "I hope the claims adjusters are out there so that they can get a quick turnaround on those claims!"There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #23 August 31, 2004 QuoteYuck. I didn't think, "I hope the claims adjusters are out there so that they can get a quick turnaround on those claims!" What's that got to do with what we're talking about? I don't see the correlation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #24 August 31, 2004 QuoteQuoteYuck. I didn't think, "I hope the claims adjusters are out there so that they can get a quick turnaround on those claims!" What's that got to do with what we're talking about? I don't see the correlation. QuoteMy first thought was of a quick and decisive response to the attack. I knew we had the right person in charge to initiate the claims counts. The former Chief actuary demonstrated himself to be one who would always take the passive if not overly conservative approach to reserves. This one required that we set reserves high and we did. That's how. My job didn't dictate my first thoughts about the humans that were suffering.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #25 August 31, 2004 QuoteMy first thought was of a quick and decisive response to the attack. When's that going to happen? Last I checked we took months to go into Afghanistan because Bush was too busy trying to find a reason to attack Iraq. Then we sent in less troops than their are cops in NYC. OBL got away, and the Taliban killed some more US troops yesterday. Yeah, that sure was quick and decisive. Puhleeze. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
