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bhammond 0
I agree NYC is pro-democrat, its a fact, not a point I have to concede to you.... but NYC's being a good venue will only be able to be judged in hind sight, I personally think it is appropriate. we are a divided country when it comes to politics, and you cant say it is President bush that brought that about, look at how the ratio of house and senate seats and congress. we have different views on how to accomplish generally the same goals. I believe government waste is as bad as corporate greed, but I believe in the individual rather than the system of hand out's. in truth it is very similar to big business vs small business. waste vs ingenuity.
ltdiver 3
Quote from your article above:
Care to comment on what Mr. Siegel brought up?
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Quote• Anti-war protests. Massive, violent demonstrations would distract the news media from the Republicans' convention message. "If you want to focus on the candidate's achievements, then you might go to a less charged environment," says Rutgers' Mandel. "This is going to be like walking in a mine field. People wonder, 'Is it gonna go off?'"
But Fred Siegel, a New York political analyst who's worked for Republicans and Democrats, thinks the party that's not here might suffer more from unruly protests than the one that is: "This is their people, their issue, their turf."
Care to comment on what Mr. Siegel brought up?
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Muenkel 0
As opposed to the Dems having their convention in a city that is safely in their pocket?
I think the Reps made a great choice, protestors and all. NYC took a huge hit financially on 9/11 that they still have not recovered from. Having the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city.
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I think the Reps made a great choice, protestors and all. NYC took a huge hit financially on 9/11 that they still have not recovered from. Having the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city.
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Chris
QuoteHaving the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city
And HELL to commuters
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Muenkel 0
QuoteAnd HELL to commuters
Everything in NY brings HELL to commuters!
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Care to comment on what Mr. Siegel brought up?
Only that you can't blame an entire party for a few radical extremists. If demonstrations get out of hand it is not the Democratic Party at fault for staging protests, but rather the fault of those doing the protesting.
This will be an extreme example, but understand, you'd don't hold a Klan rally in South Central LA. It's just not the smart thing to do. Then again, perhaps I'm just being arrogant for assuming this.
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QuoteEverything in NY brings HELL to commuters!
No need to tell me that.
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bhammond 0
[[you'd don't hold a Klan rally in South Central LA. It's just not the smart thing to do. Then again, perhaps I'm just being arrogant for assuming this.
I think flippant is the word your searching for
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I'll admit to being flippant for the last comment. I did it simply to piss you off. Then again, you called me arrogant simply for pointing out the obvious so I don't give a poop. 
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ltdiver 3
QuoteOnly that you can't blame an entire party for a few radical extremists. If demonstrations get out of hand it is not the Democratic Party at fault for staging protests, but rather the fault of those doing the protesting.
Agreed.
However, the ones who make the most noise are the ones who get the press, right? The news likes the negative.
And so, the general public will label the democratic party with what they see and hear.
Sad really.
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bhammond 0
QuoteI'll admit to being flippant for the last comment. I did it simply to piss you off.]
Sorry Paul you didnt piss me off, you just showed to everyone what motivates you.
[ Then again, you called me arrogant simply for pointing out the obvious so I don't give a poop.
there is no simplicity in the reason why I called you arrogant. you have a point of view and I respect it, but it is the way you post or respond to others on this board that makes that word "arrogant" echo in my head ....
QuoteAs opposed to the Dems having their convention in a city that is safely in their pocket?
I think the Reps made a great choice, protestors and all. NYC took a huge hit financially on 9/11 that they still have not recovered from. Having the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city.
And it has been stated that NYC will take a huge financial hit from the convention.
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QuoteQuoteAs opposed to the Dems having their convention in a city that is safely in their pocket?
I think the Reps made a great choice, protestors and all. NYC took a huge hit financially on 9/11 that they still have not recovered from. Having the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city.
And it has been stated that NYC will take a huge financial hit from the convention.
That is probably the more true statement with what it is costing for security as well as people being 'locked out' from their regular jobs. There are many shops on 34th street that will not be able to do business because while you can show proof that you work in the area, shoppers won't have the luxury of going where they want.
Commuting here is very easy but this week will be hell with the protests and the extra security in itself. I'm not looking forward to work this week at ALL.~~April
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I heard a lot of broadway shows had to go dark due to the convention as well.
But - I heard the city offered people who choose not to protest half cost seats to entertainment or food venues.
But - I heard the city offered people who choose not to protest half cost seats to entertainment or food venues.
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I forget where I was reading it but some site was quoted as saying an additional 100+ call girls were brought in for the convention. At least someone is making some money
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Daizey 0
QuoteI forget where I was reading it but some site was quoted as saying an additional 100+ call girls were brought in for the convention. At least someone is making some money
LOL its true, the New York Post and Daily News have reported this quite a few times over the course of the past few weeks.....they're supose to bring in thousands of dollars over the course of the week....
heres an article from the Daily News
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With thousands of Republicans set to invade the city this summer, high-priced escorts and strippers are preparing for one grand old party.
"Agencies are flying in extra call girls from around the globe to meet the expected demand during the Aug. 30-Sept. 2 gathering at Madison Square Garden.
"We have girls from London, Seattle, California, all coming in for that week," said a madam at a Manhattan escort service. "It's the week everyone wants to work."
"It's going to be big," agreed one operator at a midtown escort service.
Charging from $300 to upwards of $1,000 for an hour of companionship and a whole lot more, escorts said they can always count on conventioneers for big business.
"It doesn't matter what party you come from," said Robyn Few, a $500-an-hour California call girl who now runs Sex Workers Outreach Project, an advocacy group. "When you want to buy sex, you will."
That's the hope among escort services expecting a windfall from randy Republicans.
"We've got everything organized - the hotels, the flights, the advertisements," said another escort service operator. "We'll probably have 60 girls that week, instead of the usual 30."
As Phree said...some people will be making lots of money this week...some people will be spending lots at night too!
As for the loss of money...its definitely going to happen...not only are the tourists staying away but even the people who live there are getting out....where I live during the summer is also where a lot of people from the city have second houses...most of them havent left to head back down to the city yet and most arent planning on it until next week...many of them were told not even to report to work during the convention...they have said a lot of the tourist places and midtown businesses are going to get hit hard..but I would assume supermarkets and restaurants are going to too due to the decline of people who normally do shopping day by day or for the week...instead the upstate businesses are getting hit hard....the supermarket i work in over the summer was thousands of dollars over their normal projection for the weekend...
And as far as commuting, from what i understand the traffic has already starting building up- not just in Manhattan but on the Jersey side as well as the long island side....Im not looking forward to making my way through that traffic this week
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And it has been stated that NYC will take a huge financial hit from the convention.
I paid a visit to my company's NYC office two weeks ago for a project there. Literally everybody in the office and everybody that I spoke to from the client had made plans to get out of NYC for the convention.
10-15 people in all, of diverse political affiliation.
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QuoteI forget where I was reading it but some site was quoted as saying an additional 100+ call girls were brought in for the convention. At least someone is making some money
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QuoteQuoteAs opposed to the Dems having their convention in a city that is safely in their pocket?
I think the Reps made a great choice, protestors and all. NYC took a huge hit financially on 9/11 that they still have not recovered from. Having the convention there brings with it a hell of a lot of revenue to the city.
And it has been stated that NYC will take a huge financial hit from the convention.
Except for the hookers who are expecting a banner week!!!
Deuce 1
QuoteBTW, here are some links for this week.
CNN Main Election page
CNN Schedules
CNN Web Cam
C-Span GOP Convention Page
C-Span Schedules
What? No FOX news links in your bookmarks?
turtlespeed 226
QuoteAnyway, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person on the planet with the notion that -maybe- it wasn't the best choice. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-29-gopinnyc_x.htm
That is the beauty and curse of people - See it doesn't matter WHAT you believe. It doesn't matter how logical or how ascenine and ridiculous what you believe or say you believe - SOMEONE will agree with you and someone else will disagree.
I think they have more balls than the DNC - they went into the site of 9-11 knowing they had great opposition - it could be shrewd, very shrewd, but it could be a disaster. On possibility that occurred to me: perhaps they will show, by being there - just how violent the left can be - and how uncivilised as well. Turn ALOT of the country against the left because of the child-like actions.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Are you denying the statement about NYC being pro-democrat and that perhaps it wasn't the best location? If you think that my rather obvious observation is arrogant . . . that's your opinion. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person on the planet with the notion that -maybe- it wasn't the best choice. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-29-gopinnyc_x.htm
Here's a prediction for the following week. There will be quite a bit of coverage of the protests and some of the message of the convention will be lost amid the noise.
Crawford Texas? No, that's just silly, they don't have the facilities. However, I would think that there are more favorable locations than NYC. Atlanta would have been a "good" choice for instance. I'm sure there's probably a few more that are even better.
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