Hot saucing

[base283 0]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52899-2004Aug9.html
I´m not happy with these morons. Though I am from the south and love the hot stuff. ummmm, maybe that´s where I went wrong, hmmmm.
Would ya do it to your kid?
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[billvon 3,120]

>Would ya do it to your kid?

Not as described, but I have seen it used on bleach and drano bottlecaps and the like. I would consider that as a backup to things like childproof door latches.

[AggieDave 6]

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Not as described, but I have seen it used on bleach and drano bottlecaps and the like. I would consider that as a backup to things like childproof door latches.

Ha, that wouldn't have worked for me...I'd be licking the drano bottle cap going "mmmmm...hot sauce..."

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[turtlespeed 226]

Actually - yes - i have a few times - don't need to any more - it worked.

Tabasco - one drop - all it takes - non lethal - and attention getting with out spanking.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[diablopilot 2]

Anyone else here ever have to chew on the bar of soap for foul language?

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[pajarito 0]

What's wrong with a good ole fashioned smack on the ass? Oh yeah...that will get you put in jail and your kids taken away these days.

[mcrocker 0]

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Anyone else here ever have to chew on the bar of soap for fowl language?

Yep, and my mom would rake the soap on the back of my front teeth when she pulled it out. Nothing like getting soap packed in behind your teeth. MMMMmmmmmm *bubble*

I think the hot sauce would be better

[base283 0]

You would ruin your childs culinary tastes with tabasco? The kids will learn to like it ya know. Iffin i was there I´d bite ya
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[pajarito 0]

I bought a tabasco based liquid that was supposed to help my daughter stop sucking her thumb when she was younger. It didn't work. She just licked it off and kept sucking her thumb. Didn't even phase her

[Rebecca 0]

One drop, after repeated warnings, as the last resort? And it works?

What's the problem?

Worst I can see (given the above) is a future dislike for spicy food, which would suck, but think about how well-behaved you'd be...

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[base283 0]

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One drop, after repeated warnings, as the last resort? And it works?

What's the problem?

Worst I can see (given the above) is a future dislike for spicy food, which would suck, but think about how well-behaved you'd be...

This is definitely worse than what you can see.
It aint a problem, My stepfather just lucked out that he died before I could make it back to torture him like he did me. I would have done the same to him. But Scotch Bonnet peppers are much more tasty than tabasco.
take care
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[jumper03 0]

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Anyone else here ever have to chew on the bar of soap for foul language?

a-yup.

Where the hell was a time-out when I was growing up?

Grandma's favorite weapon of choice was a switch of my choosing. Make no mistake, she'd send my ass back to the woods if I didn't bring back the appropiate switch too.

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[Ron 10]

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I´m not happy with these morons.

Maybe you think a switch is better?

How about a "timeout"

It works....

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[mnealtx 0]

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Anyone else here ever have to chew on the bar of soap for foul language?

Mike
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52899-2004Aug9.html
I´m not happy with these morons. Though I am from the south and love the hot stuff. ummmm, maybe that´s where I went wrong, hmmmm.
Would ya do it to your kid?
take care,
space

When my (and my nieghbor's) 4 year olds a line of words that would make a sailor blush we tryed the soap thing. The the two of them just smiled and said "mmmmmMMMMMMM that is good" we when to the tabasco. Worked like a charm. Have and will do it again if needed.

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Maybe you think a switch is better?

How about a "timeout"

It works....

I am thinking more along the lines of "communication",
rather than physical or mental abuse. IMHO, resorting to these tactics is an indication that communication has broken down. What´s your opinion?
Take care,
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[Ron 10]

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I am thinking more along the lines of "communication",
rather than physical or mental abuse. IMHO, resorting to these tactics is an indication that communication has broken down. What´s your opinion?

Do you have kids?

I think there should be a progressive system. I think it should start with comunication and progress to higher levels as you find the last one didn't work.

I think that if all attempts to control a situation fail (Talking, timeouts, got to bed without dessert...ect) then a spanking or a physical method is called for.

I think a spanking or "hotsaucing" is a valid response to an out of control child.

And for the record my parent's only had to whip me a few times before them telling me to stop worked.

Do you agree with soap in the mouth?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[rehmwa 2]

From the same morons that will eventually try to outlaw speaking sternly to your child.

Sometimes a spanking is necessary after a certain age is reached. This hot sauce thing is a good alternative to that and I think it's a great idea. I'd do it, but only after tasting it myself first to see just how strong it is. (Since nowadays, there are some seriously concentrated sauces out there that cause chemical burns if used directly - some idiot will use one of those on his kid and then that will be a real issue. But I don't believe in establishing laws for everyone just to address some potential idiot. Happens way too often)

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Do you have kids?

I have a 4 yr old that I am armchair quarterbacking somewhat. But actually my experience comes from being a child and retaining my childlike characteristics for many years. I am a veteran in these aspects.

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I think there should be a progressive system. I think it should start with communication and progress to higher levels as you find the last one didn't work.

Should one not start by regressing to the point where communication failed, Find a better way to communicate the theme? What is that old adage, If the student didn´t learn, then the teacher didn´t teach? At which level does one stop at? Shall one continue until the point is made, over a traumatized child? It has happened many times that the parent has allowed the child to up the level to one that is not acceptable by society´s standard (ie “child shaking”).

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I think that if all attempts to control a situation fail (Talking, timeouts, got to bed without dessert...ect) then a spanking or a physical method is called for.

Do you mean that “all attempts that one feels like taking”?
Different strategies are as infinite as the Universe, if one strategy dosn´t work, that means infinite – 1 and that = infinity.
Cooperation seems to be my tool for discipline.

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I think a spanking or "hotsaucing" is a valid response to an out of control child.

I think it´s a common response to an out of control parent.
Granted that today´s society requires that parents spend more time away from their children (or vice versa) than with, I can see that it is difficult to maintain a high level of communication with the child whilst maintaining a job away from the household

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And for the record my parent's only had to whip me a few times before them telling me to stop worked.
Do you agree with soap in the mouth?

Of course not, That theme is so ironic. A child is going to be a child, and is going to do things learned from/through the parents that is forbidden to them. This is part of growing. Better to give them the definitions of the words and the meanings it amplifies when they use it in reference to something and explain one´s own reason to violate this taboo logically (without lying).
The child will play games to explore the parents´ limits. It is up to the parent´s (IMHO) to not play the game but rather understand the game and give the child what answer the child is searching for.

As I sit here and write this, I am munching on pickled habenero peppers (with salami) only cause the taste is really good.


take care and hit back with your opinion please, this is insightful.
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[base311 0]

Y'know maybe I'm naive and/or uninformed, but it had never even occurred to me that someone might use hot sauce as a punishment. I let my (then 8 mos.) daughter try some as a matter of exploration and she came back for more, so I can only conclude that it wouldn't have been an effective deterrent for her in any fashion. I suppose others' mileages may have varied.

I could never condone using a food or spice as a punishment; these things are to be savored not spoiled.

Love and vomit,
Gardner

[base283 0]

Rock on Gardner! I think that stuff like that should be used as a reward for good behavior. Do ya´ll (hot saucing parents) think that when my friends sent me the stuff in my tenure in Norway that they were implying that I needed to be punished?
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(space retreats to his dwindling stash of 22 bottles of varied peppers and sauces)

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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One drop, after repeated warnings, as the last resort? And it works?

What's the problem?

Worst I can see (given the above) is a future dislike for spicy food, which would suck, but think about how well-behaved you'd be...

When I was a kid, bad language was punished with a finger full of black pepper grounds applied to the tongue!

Yeah, we kids hated it, but it got the misbehavior to stop, and it was present in your mind when you contemplated the same misbehavior later.

That said, I LOVE fresh ground black pepper at this point, and I have for years. I also love hot-sauce on food.

I really dislike the attitude that these means (hot sauce, pepper, a spank or two on the ass) should be taken away from parents as a means of disciplining their children. Without them, you are left to attempt to reason with a child, which is about as effective as trying to train a cat.

Let me put it this way: if you could truly reason with a kid who is misbehaving, that would mean that the kid was capable of adult-level cognition -- which would also mean that it was NOT unfair to charge children as adults for serious adult-type crimes.

I see nothing wrong with "hot saucing," "peppering," or "spanking." These are things that can be done responsibly without ever crossing the border into abuse.

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-Jeffrey
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[base283 0]

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I see nothing wrong with "hot saucing," "peppering," or "spanking." These are things that can be done responsibly without ever crossing the border into abuse.

The child ultimately sets the level of their game don´t ya think? peppering can easily become pepper spray, spankings can become beatings if you play the game the child initiates. can you inflict abuse on a child responsibly?
My parents could not. I could see that "outta controll" look in the eyes sometimes. i´ve seen it in many other parents eyes also. One would need a very strong self discipline to not use a tool to the extreme to acheive the desired results. if x is good, then more x´s are better?
I think its better to address the prob than the symptoms.
It seems to me that attention is the motivator to play the game, for the child.
The less attention, the more misbehavior. think about it. Let me know your ideas on this please.
take care,
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[christelsabine 1]

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The child ultimately sets the level of their game don´t ya think? peppering can easily become pepper spray, spankings can become beatings if you play the game the child initiates. can you inflict abuse on a child responsibly?
My parents could not. I could see that "outta controll" look in the eyes sometimes. i´ve seen it in many other parents eyes also. One would need a very strong self discipline to not use a tool to the extreme to acheive the desired results. if x is good, then more x´s are better?
I think its better to address the prob than the symptoms.
It seems to me that attention is the motivator to play the game, for the child.
The less attention, the more misbehavior. think about it. Let me know your ideas on this please.

Fully agree to your statements on this thread. To use "hot sauce" for the purpose of upbringing a child, (a baby, f.e. 18 months!) is somewhat of degenerated (in mind?). That reminds me on the behaviour of dog-loving folks, pushing the nose of young dog into its own dump ...

I am a mother and in no way! could imagine to use this special treatment of "hot sauce", makes me shivver!! Horror!

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