sundevil777 102 #1 August 25, 2004 I don't care if it is Chris Matthews/hardball, Larry King or O'Reilly, if Kerry is so sure of himself (he was there) then he should face him in person. He challenged Bush to debate their Vietnam service, Odell should challenge Kerry. (Shortened your subject line. Please keep subjects at a reasonable length ~ sangiro)People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 August 25, 2004 He won't I'm sure he remembers getting his ass whooped in a debate on the Cavett(sp?) show way back when. Face to face with a fellow swift boat vet, he couldn't back up ANYTHING.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #3 August 25, 2004 QuoteFace to face with a fellow swift boat vet, he couldn't back up ANYTHING. Nope and we would get a different story once again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #4 August 25, 2004 I'm personally a bit disturbed that Vietnam is a major point of contention in our presidential election. However, sKerry did make it the centerpiece of his campaign so he can sleep in the bed he's made. What I would like to see sKerry do is authorize a reprint of his book he wrote back in '71. If he's so proud of his service he should want all of us to see what he wrote about it - right? Another display of cowardice on his part. I mean you talk about an instant best seller - that reprint would sell out of bookstores quickly. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 August 25, 2004 QuoteHowever, sKerry did make it the centerpiece of his campaign Just because you guys keep repeating this crap doesn't make it true. Kerry talked about his Vietnam service, he did NOT make it the centerpiece of his campaign. The right did by making it the centerpiece of their attacks against him. Almost every Bush commercial I see is about Kerry's Vietnam service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #6 August 25, 2004 Quotehe did NOT make it the centerpiece of his campaign You guys keep repeating that, but his actions say different... There are more bytes on his website dedicated to his 4.5 months in Vietnam than his 20 years in the Senate... He spent more time talking about and showchasing his service at the convention, where he only talked about his service in the Senate for 30 seconds... He want's the Vietnam issue because it is a distraction from what he is really embarassed by, his Senate record... The best thing the Bush campaign could do is start hammering him on that. They are a matter of public record, not personal recolection from 30 years ago. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 August 25, 2004 Let's see, links on his home page. National Security Economy & Jobs Health Care Energy Independence Homeland Security Education Enrironment Seems to me, that's what he's trying to make the campaign about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 August 25, 2004 Yeah, and Bush has the same links on his homepage. I guess that means neither has done anything else, right? From Bush/Cheney Homepage: Economy Compassion Healthcare Education Homeland Security National Security Environment Well, at least the Republican site has a fun game on it. http://www.georgewbush.com/Olympics/ Can you keep up with him, Kev? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #9 August 25, 2004 QuoteI don't care if it is Chris Matthews/hardball, Larry King or O'Reilly, if Kerry is so sure of himself (he was there) then he should face him in person. He challenged Bush to debate their Vietnam service, Odell should challenge Kerry. Huh? Has Bush debated ANYTHING with ANYBODY? Jesus, I can see the people lined up out the door about the War in Iraq, WMD,s, his pre-9/11 actions regarding homeland security, the gay marriage ammendment... I mean, Bush won't go before CONGRESS without Cheney holding his hand. I'm not sticking up for Kerry (I have my own issues with him) but good grief."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #10 August 25, 2004 You skipped all the "Get Informed" Links... the top of which is Jonh Kerry... where he offers his "get to know me" kinda stuff... He has chosen to drape himself in his Vietnam record... making it a centerpiece of who he is... therefore a centerpiece of his campaign. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 August 25, 2004 There's one paragraph in the middle of the page about his military service. And you're calling that the cetnerpiece of his campaign? Get real. YOU are bringing attention to it. He isn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #12 August 25, 2004 QuoteThere's one paragraph in the middle of the page about his military service. And you're calling that the cetnerpiece of his campaign? Get real. YOU are bringing attention to it. He isn't. Kev, do you watch TV? Kerry has many ads mentioning Vietnam. Why? 'Cause everything else he's done is so far left he doesn't want to talk about it. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #13 August 25, 2004 >Has Bush debated ANYTHING with ANYBODY? I can just see it now: MC: Mr. President, Senator Kerry has responded that you could have explored other options before invading Iraq. How do you respond to his statement? Bush: Gee, I wish you would have given me this written question ahead of time, so I could plan for it. John, I'm sure historians will look back and say, gosh, he could have done it better this way, or that way. You know, I just -- I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this debate, with all the pressure of trying to come up with an answer, but it hasn't yet. I hope I -- I don't want to sound like I couldn't have done anything differently. I'm confident I could have. I just haven't -- you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with other options. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 August 25, 2004 Quote 'Cause everything else he's done is so far left he doesn't want to talk about it. Like being a co-founder of this group. Very far to the left.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #15 August 25, 2004 QuoteKev, do you watch TV? Kerry has many ads mentioning Vietnam. Here are ALL of his ads: http://www.johnkerry.com/tv/ Those dealing with Vietnam are after and in defense of the SBVFT accusations. Further prooving that THEY are the ones making it a campaign centerpiece. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #16 August 25, 2004 The dem convention was all about his Vietnam service.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #17 August 25, 2004 Kerry himself is wining about being attacked and trying to get the Fed election commission to intervene. Kerry himself issued the challenge to Bush for a debate about their service. But, since Bush is not the one challenging Kerry's service record, and Kerry is SO upset about the claims made by the swift boat veterans group, it would seem that he would also be willing to challenge Van Odell to a debate. I wish Van Odell would publicly challenge Kerry to review what they both remember.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #18 August 26, 2004 I think we are forgetting who was actually in Vietnam! Let's see where was Bush........in fact he was UA (unauthorized absence), in the National Guard. At least Kerry was there, how dare anyone question his service when BUSH wasn't even there, and to make it worse was UA! I don't get it!----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #19 August 26, 2004 QuoteThe dem convention was all about his Vietnam service. And all the Republican National Convention will be about is Terrorism. And if you question his remarks, he will just call you unpatriotic!----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #20 August 26, 2004 QuoteThe dem convention was all about his Vietnam service. Were you there, or are you referring to the sound bites that the media decided to play over and over? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #21 August 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe dem convention was all about his Vietnam service. Were you there, or are you referring to the sound bites that the media decided to play over and over? False choice, there was a lot more than sound bites of the convention that were aired.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 August 26, 2004 You said the convention was ALL about it. So either you saw ALL of it (and ALL of it was NOT aired), or you are making that statement based on what was picked and edited and chosen to be shown for it's ratings grabbing ability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #23 August 26, 2004 "Kerry talked about his Vietnam service, he did NOT make it the centerpiece of his campaign. " It was a huge part of the DNC. He was using it to make him look more capable of being in charge. By doing so he open the door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #24 August 26, 2004 QuoteI think we are forgetting who was actually in Vietnam! Let's see where was Bush........in fact he was UA (unauthorized absence), in the National Guard. At least Kerry was there, how dare anyone question his service when BUSH wasn't even there, and to make it worse was UA! I don't get it! 1. You can't prove Bush was UA. So get over that BS. 2. Bush has said Kerry served honorably...Kerry has not said that to Bush...So get over that as well. 3. Bush has asked to end 527 groups...Kerry only wants the ones attacking him stopped...so get over that. Kerry HAS made his service a center piece. So it is free game. He has some shakey shit in his record...NONE of that would have been brought up if his side had not started to tout his service and if they had not started to attack Bush's service. It's a case of Kerry crying about getting hit with the same rules he played by. If Kerry wants to clear this up, and he HAS a good service record...It should be easy to defend it right? So why is he scared?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #25 August 26, 2004 OK, so I used the word ALL. I should have said mostly.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
