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Bodies of WWI soldiers found in glacier

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Bodies of WWI soldiers found in glacier

The bodies of three Austrian soldiers killed in World War One have been found frozen and almost perfectly preserved in an Italian Alpine glacier.

Mountain rescue worker Maurizio Vicenzi discovered the mummified bodies on Friday, encased upside down in ice at 11,940 feet altitude.

The soldiers' uniforms were mostly intact including leather belts, a gas mask and a cap with a star on it.

Historians are already studying Vicenzi's find and believe the men died during a battle on September 3, 1918, probably killed by a grenade.


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Hmmm.....wasn't aware that there was a lot of fighting in Italy during WWI. Most history seems to concentrate on the trench warfare in France. Interesting.



That would be most US history books and classes.

The fatalities give some idea of the amount of fighting done by the various participants:


Allied Soldiers Killed:

Belgium: 13,700
British Empire: 908,000
.Australia: 60,000
.Canada: 55,000
.India: 25,000
.New Zealand: 16,000
.South Africa: 7,000
.United Kingdom: 715,000
France: 1,240,000
French Colonies: 114,000
Greece: 5,000
Italy: 650,000
Japan: 300
Montenegro: 3,000
Romania: 336,000
Russia: 1,700,000
Serbia: 45,000
United States: 50,600

Central Powers Soldiers Killed:

Austria-Hungary: 1,200,000
Bulgaria: 87,500
Germany: 1,770,000
Turkey: 325,000
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...probably killed by a grenade.



No more information about calibre etc.? John Rich, you're weakening on details about weapons...



Grenades aren't sized by "caliber".

The ammo used by the Italians in their Carcano rifles would have been 6.5 mm.

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...probably killed by a grenade.



No more information about calibre etc.? John Rich, you're weakening on details about weapons...



Grenades aren't sized by "caliber".

The ammo used by the Italians in their Carcano rifles would have been 6.5 mm.


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OK you were too fast for me...

We simply call even a grenade ... calibre (f.e. 6.5 mm), right?

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That would be most US history books and classes.




True.......I find the slant amazing sometimes. I found it very interesting that my ex-wife (who grew up in Washington State) learned next to nothing about the war of Northern Agression. Yet learned all sorts of in depth things about the Lewis and Clark Expedition and the history of the regions Indian tribes. I grew up near Atlanta and battles took place LITERALLY in my yard. My house only missed being burned by that raping pillaging Sherman by about 1 mile or so. Good thing he was headed towards Macon instead of due South. I might have had to grow up in a differen't house! :D

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after moving from Europe and DOD schools i was shocked to discover i was going to be tested on obscure details involving AL and the Civil War (some 2 weeks of class) and yet the political tensions leading up to WWI? 3 days, the war itself? 1 day... Mind you this is high school so that is less than 3 hours on the pre-war and 50 min on WWI... :S
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Hmmm.....wasn't aware that there was a lot of fighting in Italy during WWI. Most history seems to concentrate on the trench warfare in France. Interesting.



That would be most US history books and classes.

The fatalities give some idea of the amount of fighting done by the various participants:



How did we get from a question on WHERE the fighting was as, to WHO did the fighting?
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"Most history seems to concentrate on the trench warfare in France."
Yeah thats understandable, Clay, but there was a huge amount of fighting going on with the Turks, see TE Lawrence (Arabia), and Gallipoli for two theatres of activity.
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And this is scary....

At around the same time period as WWI (and as bad as WWI was ... and it was really BAD ) .......

The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/FWWcasualties.htm
http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

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Mainly becuase millions of soldiers got stuck on great big ships for a month at the end of the war where the sneazed on each other as they were shipped all over the world. When they got home their families got ill too. Because the soldiers came from all over the world, the virus got sent all over the world when they were sent home - thus we got a pandemic instead of an epidemic.

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And here in the U.K ..
Even in non-epidemic years as many as 3,000 to 4,000 excess deaths are attributable to flu in the UK

http://www.uvig.org/faqsheets/flu.asp
http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/281003flu.html




P.S John : Sorry about the Thread Hijack;)

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Hmmm.....wasn't aware that there was a lot of fighting in Italy during WWI. Most history seems to concentrate on the trench warfare in France. Interesting.



That would be most US history books and classes.

The fatalities give some idea of the amount of fighting done by the various participants:



How did we get from a question on WHERE the fighting was as, to WHO did the fighting?



With the exception of the British Empire and US, most of the WHO were fighting in, or in the vicinity of, their own countries. So the WHO gives a very good indication of the WHERE.

There were a lot of war theaters besides the Western Front.
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How did we get from a question on WHERE the fighting was as, to WHO did the fighting?

Because kallend can never pass up an opportunity to bash America.



He really did? Have to have a look again on those posts.

But as your ears 'n eyes always seem to be kinda focussed on a possible gun thread, never pass up an opportunity....... Just let's wait a little bit.

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DOD (Department of Defense) schools means that he grew up (most likely) in a military family, going to American schools in various countries.

The American school I went to in Brazil was considerably better than the public schools I went to in the US; it had more of a world view, and in general more challenging subject matter. I wouldn't be surprised if the same were true of the DOD schools.

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