RevJim 0 #76 August 25, 2004 Ranibow, Brook, German Brown, a few cutthroats, and even the occasional largemouth.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #77 August 25, 2004 I did, but I killed it (three rabbits, which we named Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner) with a stick. I was in survival school. It was either kill them or starve....rabbit tastes good."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #78 August 25, 2004 hmmm. the first time I intentionally killed a mammal was when I saw a dying squirrel on the road in front of my house. It had two big wounds on its head, and hornets were landing on them. The wounds had become infected, and the squirrel was at the point where it couldn't even stand up. It was just flipping around on the ground feverishly. I went & got an axe & cut its head off to end its suffering. I kill rats regularly to feed to my corn snake. other mammal kills: I have put down poison to kill mice. my prediction is most people have killed animals at some point, even if it was just mouse poison. also, mosquitoes & other insects belong to the animal kingdom, & probably all of us have killed them. Once I found a baby bird that had fallen out of its nest. I didn't think I could save it, so I dropped it into the snake cage. problem solved. there's a thread on here about that incident. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #79 August 25, 2004 My hamster Cindy. My 3 yr old mind thought she'd have fun on the ferris wheel ride (my purse). Poor thing was dead as a door nail once the ride came to end. ~Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #80 August 25, 2004 Quote Have you ever killed anything with knife? Details about using a knife in legal hunting are really no theme for public forums. Every hunter knows when, why & how to use his special knife. Pls understand that I refuse to answer such a question. Thx dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #81 August 25, 2004 Quote So....just curious. If you don't kill to eat it....why do you hunt? There are so many details to explain, why to be out for huntung (or not hunting, as animals escaped, didn't show up, whatsoever..) Did you ever spent a night out in the forrest? Did you ever walk (or sit) in the darkness completely alone, only 'watching' (listening to) noise of the night, animals' noise? OK, we here in Good Old Germany do not have any dangerous animals (but of course, wild boar could be very dangerous! ) but, the beautiful feeling of being alone with Mother Nature is worth to spend all night long in a small wooden dug-out or sitting on a wet chair 3 meters high in the trees? At every time of the year? That at first is hunting. Beeing proud after a proper, good placed shoot is hunting too! Following a track in Cameroon for 3 or more hrs only walking (never by jeep!), approaching, aiming over long distance, trying to control breathing, that's hunting, too! Too much to explain in few words. Did you ever hear the birds in a very early morning, waiting for sunrise? Being in the absolute , only nature's noise around you? How I love that! And after a long afternoon, a cold night, a beautiful sunrise next morning, I go home w/o having had a smallest chance to do a good shoot on a deer, (f.e.). I don't mind. That's my understanding of hunting, including killing the animal I am allowed to (as this is strictly controlled here!) Does that answer your question a little bit? And there are soooo many more things I love, the social life with my hunting friends, being together after a wonderful hunting day, having a long dinner (no meat for me!), wine, fire outside, talking, just great! I start to enthuse over it........ dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #82 August 25, 2004 Quote14 posts before John trolled the thread, and 36 before someone really gave him the opportunity to set the hook. If the "John" to which you are referring is me... My comment was not a "troll" posting - it was on-topic to the subject, which was started by someone else. I've done nothing to "set the hook", as you say. I simply offered a perspective, upon which others have now commented. It's just a free and open debate, which is what we are all here for. So please refrain from the personal insults. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #83 August 25, 2004 As someone who prides himself in arguing (at least in appearance), trolling is an appropriate description of that post. Also, I have great respect for you letting others set the hook. I said opportunity, remember?It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyOwnWay 0 #84 August 25, 2004 sure, lots of times. i use to be big into hunting when i was in this huge tomboy stage back in grade school and jr. high. but i will admit to killing a cat that gave me ring worm. i threw it off of a cliff that was behind my house. but before anyone gets too mad at me, i was only in the 3rd grade._________________________________________ all good things are wild and free - Henry David Thoreau Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBachelor 5 #85 August 25, 2004 I grew up in Northern Minnesota where there was a lot of hunting and fishing. I killed a white tail deer with a bow and arrow, and numerous game birds (grouse, etc) with a shotgun. My attitude was to eat what I killed, not to kill for the heck of it. I did feel sorry for the deer I killed, and my father said he felt the same way every time he shot one (with a rifle). I also felt a great deal of excitement and pride. I don't live near good hunting anymore, but I think I'll do it again some day. And of course, I'm a member of PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals.There are battered women? I've been eating 'em plain all of these years... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #86 August 25, 2004 QuoteAs someone who prides himself in arguing (at least in appearance), trolling is an appropriate description of that post. Your usage of the word "troll" here is not in conformance with generally accepted definitions found on the internet. There is more to being a "troll" than just someone who introduces a different, or controversial, perspective to a debate. However, if you want to use that loose definition, then I guess you are a troll also, since by calling me a troll, you introduced a controversial argument of your own. It's a pot/kettle thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neoteng 0 #87 August 25, 2004 i once stood on an ant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #88 August 25, 2004 >then I guess you are a troll also Congrats on getting this thread moved to Speaker's. And enough with the name calling. (And please do NOT start in with the "but he did it first!" I don't care who did it first. No one can do it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #89 August 25, 2004 Bill, you got the 'dad talking to the kids in the backseat of the station wagon' thing down. Why, just about a half hour ago I said a similar thing to the two eight year olds in the back of my vehicle. "I don't care who started it! Stop it!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #90 August 25, 2004 QuoteThose poor little brocclis...can you live with their little screams echoing in your head when you're trying to sleep? I can't, so I eat beef, cows don't scream like that. dude if you think brocclis screams badly you have to hear carrots...steamed carrots let out such a wail... but they are really tasty with a honey glaze so i dont mind so much...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #91 August 26, 2004 QuoteQuote So....just curious. If you don't kill to eat it....why do you hunt? There are so many details to explain, why to be out for huntung. Having long ago given up the desire to hunt (but still recognizing that circumstances could some day bring on the necessity), I have decided that if I wanted the thrill of nature and the pursuit of game, as you have described, I would just as soon bring a large-caliber handgun afield for protection, and a quality camera for "shooting" the animals. This way, I could capture their wild beauty, but leave them in the field so that they could continue to be beautiful. Why would I, say, go to Alaska, spot a magnificent grizzly bear, and then kill it, when I could take a photo to have forever and let others enjoy the bear's magnificence later on? (Not to mention not hurting the bear.) --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #92 August 26, 2004 I had a friend in college who claimed to be a vegetarian, not because he loved animals, but because he hated plants.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #93 August 26, 2004 I never went hunting. It's just not my thing. However, I am not against hunting as long as the rules are followed. As for roadkill, you can call me a mass murderer. Too numerous to list. I can't help it, I live in the country. I did stomp a mouse to death once. It was in my living room and he was uninvited. There was no way I was going to bed that night knowing a mouse was roaming around. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #94 August 26, 2004 Ooops. I marked that I hadn't killed anything. You've just reminded me of the time I offed a rat, using an ice axe (it was a big rat), for similar reasons to your own.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #95 August 26, 2004 Quote Did you ever hear the birds in a very early morning, waiting for sunrise? Being in the absolute , only nature's noise around you? How I love that! And after a long afternoon, a cold night, a beautiful sunrise next morning, I have traveled through nature on many a hiking and back pack trip. The evening quiet and the morning dew and birds are two of the favorite times I enjoy. Friends and family included make the circle complete. And like peacefuljeffrey said....I'd rather leave the incredible nature alone and unspoiled for the next adventurer to enjoy as well. Not because I myself am also a vegetarian....but because there is more to life than destroying it. *note to those who are carnivores. More power to you, if you enjoy the spoils of your hunt. Not everyone can enjoy a fresh made dinner from their own garden and consider it a meal. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #96 August 26, 2004 Congrats John. You pulled me into speakers corner. I planned never to come here, but I clicked the link directly from my email. I'm a troll, you're a troll, at some point in time, we are all trolls. Needless to say, I still applaud you for holding back the setting of the hook early in this thread, while it was still in bonfire. Now you must excuse me. I need to close this page before I'm drawn into another thread. For all I know, a theological debate here has my name written all over it. Too bad I'm not gonna look. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #97 August 26, 2004 Have killed animals before but only for food. (Including rat (No tools required for that one)). Yum!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #98 August 26, 2004 Quote Having long ago given up the desire to hunt (but still recognizing that circumstances could some day bring on the necessity), I have decided that if I wanted the thrill of nature and the pursuit of game, as you have described, I would just as soon bring a large-caliber handgun afield for protection, and a quality camera for "shooting" the animals. This way, I could capture their wild beauty, but leave them in the field so that they could continue to be beautiful. Why would I, say, go to Alaska, spot a magnificent grizzly bear, and then kill it, when I could take a photo to have forever and let others enjoy the bear's magnificence later on? (Not to mention not hurting the bear.) Hey come on, give me a break: I already explained what kind of hunting I prefer. And just to repeat again: That dirty biz called fence hunting (lions f.e.) is not my biz. Same refers to hunting Polar Bear, Grizzly etc. There is line to be drawn. I learned (and still enjoy) hunting on a "clean" way. I do despise the moneybags with their Dollars or EUROs, sitting on their fat a***s on top of a jeep, waiting to shot down an animal, lion, leopard or similar, which (and this is no secret) already in advance has been anaesthetized a little bit. And not to forget: Here in Germany, we have strict regulations from government, which animals have to be hunted in a certain hunting area. This has to be followed. And over all: No need to eat what I shoot! dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #99 August 26, 2004 Quote>then I guess you are a troll also Congrats on getting this thread moved to Speaker's. And enough with the name calling. (And please do NOT start in with the "but he did it first!" I don't care who did it first. No one can do it.) He did it first, but when I respond, it becomes my fault? I see... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #100 August 26, 2004 >He did it first, but when I respond, it becomes my fault? Yes. NO ONE can call other people names. It is your fault for calling him names. I assume you have enough self-control to control what your fingers type; if you do not use that self control to avoid personal attacks - EVEN IF YOU THINK THEY ARE JUSTIFIED - you will be banned from posting here. If you do not like that rule, rec.skydiving has no moderation, and you can say whatever you like there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
