jlmiracle 7 #1 August 24, 2004 Question: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #2 August 24, 2004 QuoteWTS now has air conditioned packing (and heat)! I love atonal apples and air conditioned heat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #3 August 24, 2004 So Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #4 August 24, 2004 QuoteSo Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. Judy If it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do with what you want.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #5 August 24, 2004 QuoteIf it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do with what you want. Thank you turtle. Its not on the public right of way. The posts they use make pretty good tomato stakes. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #6 August 24, 2004 >If it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do >with what you want. I don't think that's quite true. You don't own a car that's parked in your driveway, nor do you own a cutaway main that falls into your back yard. However, she would be well within her rights to pull it out and leave it leaning against a telephone poll (or even keep it in her garage until it's clear no one will come for it.) As a practical matter, if she tossed it no one's going to care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 August 24, 2004 Quote Question: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Does it "belong" to you? Well, I'd say no, but you certainly have the right to remove it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #8 August 24, 2004 QuoteSo Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. Judy IIRC, in common law if a neighbor's fruit tree overhangs your property you can cut off the offending branches and toss them back over the fence. If you eat the fruit you are guilty of theft. Specific statutes may modify this, of course. Tell us more about air-conditioned heat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #9 August 24, 2004 Quotein common law if a neighbor's fruit tree overhangs your property you can cut off the offending branches and toss them back over the fence. If you eat the fruit you are guilty of theft. But it's not my neighbor and I would take it up with them. These people decided they would use my property to put up their political signs. QuoteTell us more about air-conditioned heat It says and heat Kallend and according to my dictionary on my Bloomberg it can be either air conditioned or air-conditioned - is that what that was about? By the way Kallend, it is very comfortable and makes packing much easier, hope you can make by sometime. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallRate 0 #10 August 24, 2004 Would a humidifier/heater combo count as air-conditioned heat? Man, I'm bored. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #11 August 24, 2004 If it's on your property without permission, you are legally entitled to remove it. You are also legally entitled to charge them for removal, and to hold the sign for surety until they pay your (reasonable) costs for removal of the sign. After a (again reasonable) time, you can assume the property left is forfeit, and dispose of it as you wish. In reality, unless we're talking about a really expensive sign, it's yours. You also probably have grounds for filing a complaint with your local elections authority.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #12 August 24, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy Yes. You would be free to do whatever you wanted with it. Once, I saw somebody had set up a town council election campaign sign on my road front (I have a long frontage, some 700 feet). I took it down, cut it up in a couple dozen strips, and dumped it right at the front door of town hall (it was a re-election candidate). Haven't had another one put up since. Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #13 August 25, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy If they park their car on your driveway, does it belong to you? Well, okay, they're not the same. But about the political sign, I would say you have the right to take it down if it is on your property. Shit, I would maintain that it's your right to take it down even if it's just on the easement in front of your property. Its presence there implies you support that candidate, whether you do or not. I would think you have the right to put a stop to the misrepresentation. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #14 August 25, 2004 for the law types: i know this is impractical due to the price of the sign; but if you pull someone elses sign from your lawn and put it off the side of the road and it gets stolen, can the sign owner sue you claiming Constructive Bailment has happened?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #15 August 25, 2004 >I would think you have the right to put a stop to the misrepresentation. Or perhaps make a minor addition to the sign to better express your position . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #16 August 25, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy Actually, Judy, I don't think it belongs to you. However, what DOES belong to you is your property. And what HAS happened is a trespass by this campaign onto your property. So, what you do is make another sign and post it on your property that says something like the following: " campaign posted a campaign sign on my private property without my consent. clearly does not respect private property rights. His campaign trespassed upon and "tagged" my property. "This campaign sign is being stored upon my property for safekeeping, and can be recovered by the candidate in person via scheduled appointment." Then call the press. They'd eat that stuff up. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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jlmiracle 7 #3 August 24, 2004 So Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 August 24, 2004 QuoteSo Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. Judy If it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do with what you want.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #5 August 24, 2004 QuoteIf it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do with what you want. Thank you turtle. Its not on the public right of way. The posts they use make pretty good tomato stakes. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #6 August 24, 2004 >If it is on your property and not the public right of way, it is yours to do >with what you want. I don't think that's quite true. You don't own a car that's parked in your driveway, nor do you own a cutaway main that falls into your back yard. However, she would be well within her rights to pull it out and leave it leaning against a telephone poll (or even keep it in her garage until it's clear no one will come for it.) As a practical matter, if she tossed it no one's going to care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 August 24, 2004 Quote Question: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Does it "belong" to you? Well, I'd say no, but you certainly have the right to remove it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #8 August 24, 2004 QuoteSo Kallend, you don't know the answer to my question? I thought all you guys over here in the political corner, I mean speaker corner, would be able to answer my question. Judy IIRC, in common law if a neighbor's fruit tree overhangs your property you can cut off the offending branches and toss them back over the fence. If you eat the fruit you are guilty of theft. Specific statutes may modify this, of course. Tell us more about air-conditioned heat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #9 August 24, 2004 Quotein common law if a neighbor's fruit tree overhangs your property you can cut off the offending branches and toss them back over the fence. If you eat the fruit you are guilty of theft. But it's not my neighbor and I would take it up with them. These people decided they would use my property to put up their political signs. QuoteTell us more about air-conditioned heat It says and heat Kallend and according to my dictionary on my Bloomberg it can be either air conditioned or air-conditioned - is that what that was about? By the way Kallend, it is very comfortable and makes packing much easier, hope you can make by sometime. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #10 August 24, 2004 Would a humidifier/heater combo count as air-conditioned heat? Man, I'm bored. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #11 August 24, 2004 If it's on your property without permission, you are legally entitled to remove it. You are also legally entitled to charge them for removal, and to hold the sign for surety until they pay your (reasonable) costs for removal of the sign. After a (again reasonable) time, you can assume the property left is forfeit, and dispose of it as you wish. In reality, unless we're talking about a really expensive sign, it's yours. You also probably have grounds for filing a complaint with your local elections authority.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #12 August 24, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy Yes. You would be free to do whatever you wanted with it. Once, I saw somebody had set up a town council election campaign sign on my road front (I have a long frontage, some 700 feet). I took it down, cut it up in a couple dozen strips, and dumped it right at the front door of town hall (it was a re-election candidate). Haven't had another one put up since. Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #13 August 25, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy If they park their car on your driveway, does it belong to you? Well, okay, they're not the same. But about the political sign, I would say you have the right to take it down if it is on your property. Shit, I would maintain that it's your right to take it down even if it's just on the easement in front of your property. Its presence there implies you support that candidate, whether you do or not. I would think you have the right to put a stop to the misrepresentation. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #14 August 25, 2004 for the law types: i know this is impractical due to the price of the sign; but if you pull someone elses sign from your lawn and put it off the side of the road and it gets stolen, can the sign owner sue you claiming Constructive Bailment has happened?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #15 August 25, 2004 >I would think you have the right to put a stop to the misrepresentation. Or perhaps make a minor addition to the sign to better express your position . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 August 25, 2004 QuoteQuestion: If someone puts a political sign or any other sign on my property, without my permission, does it now belong to me? Judy Actually, Judy, I don't think it belongs to you. However, what DOES belong to you is your property. And what HAS happened is a trespass by this campaign onto your property. So, what you do is make another sign and post it on your property that says something like the following: " campaign posted a campaign sign on my private property without my consent. clearly does not respect private property rights. His campaign trespassed upon and "tagged" my property. "This campaign sign is being stored upon my property for safekeeping, and can be recovered by the candidate in person via scheduled appointment." Then call the press. They'd eat that stuff up. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites