kallend 2,146 #1 August 21, 2004 www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=00069A31-0700-1125-86E083414B7F4945 ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #2 August 21, 2004 Paid a malu cachu!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 August 21, 2004 Riiiiiiiiiiight. Sure, that's eactly what the article says. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 August 21, 2004 Well, kallend, as we know, English has more words and rules than any other language. This has the practical effect of letting we English speakers know that, thanks to our mother tongue, our cognitive abilities far outweigh those of the krauts, camel jockeys, frogs and other who have languages not as "advanced" as our own. Is that the premise behind this study???? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #5 August 21, 2004 more that you cant understand anything that you do not have definitions for....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #6 August 22, 2004 >This has the practical effect of letting we English speakers know that, > thanks to our mother tongue, our cognitive abilities far outweigh > those of the krauts, camel jockeys, frogs and other who have > languages not as "advanced" as our own. >Is that the premise behind this study???? What?? Where'd you get that? The point of the study is that a language that has no word for "ten" has difficulty with math. Not that big a leap, really; it was a central premise for the book "1984." (In 1984, a language, Newspeak, was created so it would be difficult to express subversive thoughts, thus supressing such thoughts.) If anything, English is a confusing amalgm of many languages, with a great many irrational inclusions and omissions. For example, we have the gendered pronouns of French, but only a few gendered nouns (blond and blonde, for example.) Our verb conjugations have the first/second/third person derivations but no familiar derivation. Pronounciation is pretty arbitrary (why isn't through pronounced like enough?) It would be interesting to see if a more logically created language (like Esperanto) would change how someome processed information if they learned it as a first language. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #7 August 22, 2004 QuoteWell, kallend, as we know, English has more words and rules than any other language. This has the practical effect of letting we English speakers Letting "us" English speakers. (Drop the "English speakers" to see why. "This has the practical effect of letting US know that, thanks to our mother tongue, ...") Just tryin' to help. These grammar rules are difficult for you and I (er..., ME) to keep track of. Blue skies, --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 August 22, 2004 Quote>This has the practical effect of letting we English speakers know that, > thanks to our mother tongue, our cognitive abilities far outweigh > those of the krauts, camel jockeys, frogs and other who have > languages not as "advanced" as our own. >Is that the premise behind this study???? What?? Where'd you get that? The point of the study is that a language that has no word for "ten" has difficulty with math. Not that big a leap, really; it was a central premise for the book "1984." (In 1984, a language, Newspeak, was created so it would be difficult to express subversive thoughts, thus supressing such thoughts.) If anything, English is a confusing amalgm of many languages, with a great many irrational inclusions and omissions. For example, we have the gendered pronouns of French, but only a few gendered nouns (blond and blonde, for example.) Our verb conjugations have the first/second/third person derivations but no familiar derivation. Pronounciation is pretty arbitrary (why isn't through pronounced like enough?) It would be interesting to see if a more logically created language (like Esperanto) would change how someome processed information if they learned it as a first language. Well, the universe is a confusing and complicated place; maybe the reason that the English speaking world has been so successful in scientific endeavo(u)rs has something to do with an ability to deal with complicated ideas ingrained from babyhood..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #9 August 23, 2004 Aye, but we'll still find reason to disagree on how many are in a billion, the size of a gallon, and the correct way to spell humour.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 August 23, 2004 QuoteAye, but we'll still find reason to disagree on how many are in a billion, the size of a gallon, and the correct way to spell humour. Are you aware that your avatar has been stolen?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #11 August 23, 2004 "Are you aware that your avatar has been stolen?" actually, its for sale if you like it....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #12 August 23, 2004 Quote"Are you aware that your avatar has been stolen?" actually, its for sale if you like it.... www.nytimes.com/2004/08/23/international/europe/23scream.html[url]... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #13 August 24, 2004 I know John, I know.... I find it a little ironic that, that in a world concerned with security, two punks can wander into a museum and steal something like this in broad daylight. As an icon for angst and frustration I think it looks quite good here in Squeaker's Corner. From Munch's diary around the time he created his most famous work... "I was walking along the road with two friends. The sun was setting. I felt a breath of melancholy - Suddenly the sky turned blood-red. I stopped, and leaned against the railing, deathly tired - looking out across the flaming clouds that hung like blood and a sword over the blue-black fjord and town. My friends walked on - I stood there, trembling with fear. And I sensed a great, infinite scream pass through nature."-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #14 August 24, 2004 QuoteFrom Munch's diary ....... Just to combine the two themes of this thread, I heard two different news readers (one on BBC World and the other on a local radio station) pronounce the artist's name as Munk and Munsh respectively. Out of curiousity, which is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #15 August 24, 2004 "Out of curiousity, which is it?" The Noggies I've seen on the goggle box called him "Moonk" -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #16 August 26, 2004 GWB get asked to do the closing ceremony speech at the Olympics. So on the night he gets up, walks to the podium and starts to read: "Oh..... oh..oh......oh........oh". An aide rushes up to him and whispers in his ear: "Mr. President, those are the Olympic rings. Your speech is there, below the rings." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419gotaminute 0 #17 August 26, 2004 does anybody know what "GHOTI" spells? and not I didn't mispell john gotti's name. Think about it in context with TomAiello's post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #18 August 26, 2004 Quotedoes anybody know what "GHOTI" spells? and not I didn't mispell john gotti's name. Think about it in context with TomAiello's post Is spells ghoti but is pronounced "fish".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
