TheAnvil 0 #26 August 20, 2004 Ahhh...so if Iran were to pre-emptively strike US forces in the area you'd pefer the US to do nothing? If that's the case, then keep dreaming. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #27 August 20, 2004 The majority of Iranians are Khatami minded, Most if they had a choice would want someone who is not a molla(Muslim priest) at all. But given the choice between Khatami and Khomanai most chose Khatami. Unfortunately the power is in the hand of the minority and they will kill any one that steps in their way.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #28 August 20, 2004 QuoteAhhh...so if Iran were to pre-emptively strike US forces in the area you'd pefer the US to do nothing? If that's the case, then keep dreaming. I certainly would not expect the US forces sit back and take an attack without fighting back. What is scary is the fact that yes many in the Muslim world do not value life on this planet the same way that most of us do, and this could be the beginning of WWIII. A war between western cultures (mainly the USA) and the Muslim world. As to who started it is debatable though. Some would say that Iran would be responsible if this pre-emptive attack does take place and some would argue that the US has already started this war on the Muslim world what with their invasion of a soveign Muslim country. Either way, if it does happen, it's not going to be good for anyone. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #29 August 20, 2004 Cool - that's what I thought. I think that since we royally screwed the pooch by supporting Pahlavi for so long a slow but steady pace was the way to go with improving US-Iranian relations. This insane bid for nuclear power by the radicals over there is ruining the possibility of continuing that slow & steady pace, which I believe was working. Every time you read about elections over there more and more reformers are being elected, to the chagrin of the Khomeni supporters. At least that's what I recall. Yet another area of modern foreign policy made difficult by our Cold War confrontation with the Soviets. Speaking of Iran, I love Persian food. Might make something tonite.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #30 August 20, 2004 I really dont think we need to be involved with a "pre-emptive" strike.The population of Iran is fairly young,and most of them dont buy into what the mullahs are peddling.If nature takes its course the old hardline fundamentalists will die off and the newer generations, that are open minded and accepting of western ideas,will eventually take over,without a shot being fired!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #31 August 20, 2004 QuoteAhhh...so if Iran were to pre-emptively strike US forces in the area you'd pefer the US to do nothing? If that's the case, then keep dreaming. No, I don´t believe in the concept of a pre-emptive war, no matter who does it. However, in the link they are saying that they would attack if U.S or Israel attack their nuclear facilities. Shamkhani, who was asked about the possibility of an American or Israeli strike against Iran's atomic power plant in Bushehr, added: "We will consider any strike against our nuclear installations as an attack on Iran as a whole, and we will retaliate with all our strength. "If Israel fires one missile at Bushehr atomic power plant, it should permanently forget about Dimona nuclear center, where it produces and keeps its nuclear weapons, and Israel would be responsible for the terrifying consequence of this move," General Mohammad Baqer Zolqadr warned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #32 August 20, 2004 > Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. The Iranian pursuit of >nuclear power has been affected very little by U.S. actions in Iraq. They're not idiots. They have seen how we deal with a country we don't like that has no WMD's (Iraq) and how we deal with a country we don't like that DOES have WMD's (North Korea.) They want to be treated like we are treating North Korea; the obvious answer is to get some nukes, then use them as bargaining chips. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #33 August 20, 2004 For you: DNC Foreign Policy Toolkit Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #34 August 20, 2004 I love Persian food. Might make something tonite.Quote Where did you learn to make Persian food? I love that stuff. I cook it all the time.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #35 August 20, 2004 I've been to the Middle East a bit then I just bought this pretty kickass cookbook. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0804816190/qid=1093026051/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-8475553-9457445?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Damned good stuff - everything I've made so far. Any suggestions? I love to cook and am always looking for things to try. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #36 August 20, 2004 ***They have seen how we deal with a country we don't like that has no WMD's (Iraq) Then, the Sarin that's been discovered in Iraq doesnt qualify as a WMD or there isnt enough quantity to be a real threat?????Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Botellines 0 #37 August 20, 2004 No, it is not enough quantity and was not in an apropiate container to do any harm to any american who was outside Irak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuckbrown 0 #38 August 20, 2004 QuoteDefinitely disturbing. We opened the door for this with the whole pre-emptive strike to protect ourselves against a potential threat. Now they're claiming the same right. I seem to remember the Israelis opening this door in 1981 when they bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor Hussein was trying to build. While Israel was roundly condemned, including by the U.S., it's pretty well a given that this was a very smart move. Edited to add: I'm not advocating a pre-emptive strike, just giving a history lesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #39 August 20, 2004 QuoteAhhh...so if Iran were to pre-emptively strike US forces in the area you'd pefer the US to do nothing? If that's the case, then keep dreaming. And here in lies the paradox with violence and war. It is human nature to defend and fight back. Now add in nationalistic ego or religious pride and you have a feedback loop that can never end. The first punch was thrown eons ago and it there is no end in sight. Which is why I feel the military is a necessary evil._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #40 August 20, 2004 Khoreshat Bodemjon is very Good. It has Eggplant and meat but the meat should be like lamb you eat it with rice. It also has lots of spices and tomatoes. My favorite way to have chicken is Zerreshk polo va Morgh. It is Basically chicken and rice but Zerreshk are these awesome little sour berries I have no idea what they are called in English. Halem bodemjoon is good. Oh the most fucking rocking food is Ta chin. It is rice but they put chicken or Veal under the rice so as the bottom gets crispy the meat cooks and gets crispy too They also put Egg and Saffron in it. This is making me hungry. The thing about Persian cooking is it is never just the main meal there is al sort of stuff you eat with it. Torshy(pickled vegetables and fruit in vinegar), Musto kheyor(it is made of really thick yogurt, cucumber, raisins, walnuts, and fresh herbs. Always get the real Iranian bread the bread sometimes makes the whole meal. God I miss home.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #41 August 20, 2004 QuoteNo, it is not enough quantity and was not in an apropiate container to do any harm to any american who was outside Irak. Unless of course they had moved it somewhere outside of Iraq. I guess we needed to find the WMDs in Iraq somewhere other than Iraq for you to consider them a threat. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #42 August 21, 2004 I was thinking of khoreshe sak or dolmeh sib, but I'm feeling a bit lazy right now. And stiff. Think I'm going on a very short evening run then just eat a lite salad or something. Too late for me to cook anything complex now. That khoreshe sak sounds DAMNED good and I've been itching to try it. Thanks for the suggestions! Do you have any recipes for those? I've got one for the khoreshat bodemjon. Later dude! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #43 August 21, 2004 QuoteDefinitely disturbing. We opened the door for this with the whole pre-emptive strike to protect ourselves against a potential threat. Now they're claiming the same right. Oh really. Is it your belief that the U.S. was the first country to invade another? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #44 August 22, 2004 >Is it your belief that the U.S. was the first country to invade another? No, but we should strive for better than that. I tend to not take people seriously who say that the US should have no better morality than Saddam Hussein, or Nazi Germany, or the USSR. We do things that are right; we don't decide things are OK because a murderous dictator did them first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #45 August 22, 2004 Bill, Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Maybe some good people think it is better to remove a brutal murdering dictator. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #46 August 22, 2004 >Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Very true. However, when your beliefs are expressed by going to war and killing 10,000 innocent people, you are expected to have a pretty high standard for morality. With great power comes great responsibility and all that. It's not OK to say that Saddam tortured people so we can torture people; just because he had rape rooms does not make it OK to reopen them. We are better than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #47 August 22, 2004 QuoteBill, Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Maybe some good people think it is better to remove a brutal murdering dictator. We hear a lot about Saddam's mass graves. The most recent mass graves in Iraq are those created by the US led invasion. It's not clear to me that "liberating" a people by killing some percentage of them and maiming a greater percentage of them is necessarily "right" by any definition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #48 August 22, 2004 US caused mass graves, eh? Let's see you back that up with some statistics. Remember to compare whatever you come up with against the mass graves we've discovered so we know how they stack up. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #49 August 22, 2004 --------------------------------- Published on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 by the Inter Press Service BAGHDAD - The story of Yusuf Fakri Amash is the story of so much of Fallujah. The 11-year-old boy just managed to escape from the town with his family. But not before the U.S. military killed his best friend. "Ahmed was in my class," he says. "He was younger than me. He was standing next to the wall of the secondary school and was trying to cross the street. He was hit by a bullet. The American troops fired the bullet." So many Fallujahans have been killed by the U.S. marines that residents have had to dig mass graves. The city's football stadium now holds more than 200 bodies. -------------------------------------------- August 25, 2002 KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- The general in charge of the U.S.-led mission in Afghanistan said Sunday he supports an investigation into allegations that hundreds of Taliban prisoners suffocated and were dumped into mass graves after surrendering to U.S.-backed forces last year. "I think in each case the right thing to do is for people to go take a look," said Gen. Tommy Franks shortly after arriving in the Afghan capital, Kabul, "and then we'll decide what we find, and then we'll take the action that's appropriate after that." ------------------------------------------ PM admits graves claim 'untrue' Sunday July 18, 2004 The Observer Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered. The claims by Blair in November and December of last year, were given widespread credence, quoted by MPs and widely published, including in the introduction to a US government pamphlet on Iraq's mass graves. In that publication - Iraq's Legacy of Terror: Mass Graves produced by USAID, the US government aid distribution agency, Blair is quoted from 20 November last year: 'We've already discovered, just so far, the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves.' On 14 December Blair repeated the claim in a statement issued by Downing Street in response to the arrest of Saddam Hussein and posted on the Labour party website that: 'The remains of 400,000 human beings [have] already [been] found in mass graves.' ------------------------------------------------ So - we've killed around 10,000 innocent people (www.iraqbodycount.org) and we've found 5000 people in mass graves from Saddam's rule, rather than the 400,000 number we used as yet another reason to invade. But I'm sure that no one is responsible for the mistake - it was just faulty intelligence, and as we all know, that means it's no one's fault. But just think! If we find another 5000 we'll be even with Saddam. Perhaps all those bodies will be found in his cleverly hidden chemical, biological and nuclear weapons storehouses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #50 August 23, 2004 JACKASS Anvil reverts back into his deepest Appalachian twang. Hold mah beer and read this.> Amazing Bill! That kid is so young and is already such an expert in fore-ensics he knows for damned certain that an American fired the bullet that killed his friend. I'll bet he didn't even have half the new fangled lab equipment the average American crime lab has either. Hot diggety damn let's get that kid on a full ride to Harvard, Yale, or Dartmouth! Yeeeeehaw! They need more folks at CSI! Just so it don't take off 'rasslin or nuthin'! Now why would such a horrible thing happen in a city like Fallujah 'bout now? Why might you ask? Let me think - OH HELL HAVE I GOT IT! There's a war going on there! Heeeeelll-fire! American troops are getting shot at and have the audacity to fire back! Well geeeee whiz! H'it ain't like squirrul huntin' back in Harlan County, Kentucky. No sireeeeee, Billy-boy! Them I-raqi's shoot bullets! Squirrel's don't but they's still a might vicious! And laaaaaaw me, would you believe it? US Marines are shootin' theeeeee hell out of folks that shoot at them? An' some of those folks they shoot at actually die? Daaayum! What the hell has war come to these days? And I thought that Hatfield and McCoy thing was a war - hot damn has this here internet been one hell of a tool for edu-mu-cashun. 200 dead, huh? They're lucky it's so few. Grandaddy said he'd like to kill 200 revenue'ers that come after his still one time, but I never did believe he shot more'n two or three. So, in re-view. Thar's a war goin' on. People are gettin' shot. There's all-eee-gashuns some Taliban got themselves suff-o-cated with no proof as 'o yet. You'unses are comparin' the sum-total of civilian casualties purportedly incurred by US forces in the course of our occ-u-pay-shun with the folks Saddam and his boys run through the ole' plastic shredder, shot, murdered, and gassed, and your point, is whut exactly? That in war folks get killed that ain't meant to? Kind o' like when I wuz shootin' at the folks who put a burnin' cross in our yard cuz they don't take to Catholics too well. I accidentally hit the neighbor's dawg. Still feel bad about missin' those KKKlan fellers, but feel worse about the dawg. Exit redneck Anvil stage right. Enter regular JACKASS Anvil stage left. This inane attempt to equate the actions of our troops in a wartime environment with the mass murder of innocents is asinine. Civilian casualties occur in war. They occur in EVERY war. They are always sad. They are always a bad thing. And they are always more painful to the family members who weep for their loss than for anyone else. Even with all that in mind the moral equivalency you are trying to infer is just sickening - you know better. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
TheAnvil 0 #35 August 20, 2004 I've been to the Middle East a bit then I just bought this pretty kickass cookbook. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0804816190/qid=1093026051/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-8475553-9457445?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Damned good stuff - everything I've made so far. Any suggestions? I love to cook and am always looking for things to try. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #36 August 20, 2004 ***They have seen how we deal with a country we don't like that has no WMD's (Iraq) Then, the Sarin that's been discovered in Iraq doesnt qualify as a WMD or there isnt enough quantity to be a real threat?????Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #37 August 20, 2004 No, it is not enough quantity and was not in an apropiate container to do any harm to any american who was outside Irak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #38 August 20, 2004 QuoteDefinitely disturbing. We opened the door for this with the whole pre-emptive strike to protect ourselves against a potential threat. Now they're claiming the same right. I seem to remember the Israelis opening this door in 1981 when they bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor Hussein was trying to build. While Israel was roundly condemned, including by the U.S., it's pretty well a given that this was a very smart move. Edited to add: I'm not advocating a pre-emptive strike, just giving a history lesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #39 August 20, 2004 QuoteAhhh...so if Iran were to pre-emptively strike US forces in the area you'd pefer the US to do nothing? If that's the case, then keep dreaming. And here in lies the paradox with violence and war. It is human nature to defend and fight back. Now add in nationalistic ego or religious pride and you have a feedback loop that can never end. The first punch was thrown eons ago and it there is no end in sight. Which is why I feel the military is a necessary evil._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #40 August 20, 2004 Khoreshat Bodemjon is very Good. It has Eggplant and meat but the meat should be like lamb you eat it with rice. It also has lots of spices and tomatoes. My favorite way to have chicken is Zerreshk polo va Morgh. It is Basically chicken and rice but Zerreshk are these awesome little sour berries I have no idea what they are called in English. Halem bodemjoon is good. Oh the most fucking rocking food is Ta chin. It is rice but they put chicken or Veal under the rice so as the bottom gets crispy the meat cooks and gets crispy too They also put Egg and Saffron in it. This is making me hungry. The thing about Persian cooking is it is never just the main meal there is al sort of stuff you eat with it. Torshy(pickled vegetables and fruit in vinegar), Musto kheyor(it is made of really thick yogurt, cucumber, raisins, walnuts, and fresh herbs. Always get the real Iranian bread the bread sometimes makes the whole meal. God I miss home.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #41 August 20, 2004 QuoteNo, it is not enough quantity and was not in an apropiate container to do any harm to any american who was outside Irak. Unless of course they had moved it somewhere outside of Iraq. I guess we needed to find the WMDs in Iraq somewhere other than Iraq for you to consider them a threat. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #42 August 21, 2004 I was thinking of khoreshe sak or dolmeh sib, but I'm feeling a bit lazy right now. And stiff. Think I'm going on a very short evening run then just eat a lite salad or something. Too late for me to cook anything complex now. That khoreshe sak sounds DAMNED good and I've been itching to try it. Thanks for the suggestions! Do you have any recipes for those? I've got one for the khoreshat bodemjon. Later dude! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #43 August 21, 2004 QuoteDefinitely disturbing. We opened the door for this with the whole pre-emptive strike to protect ourselves against a potential threat. Now they're claiming the same right. Oh really. Is it your belief that the U.S. was the first country to invade another? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #44 August 22, 2004 >Is it your belief that the U.S. was the first country to invade another? No, but we should strive for better than that. I tend to not take people seriously who say that the US should have no better morality than Saddam Hussein, or Nazi Germany, or the USSR. We do things that are right; we don't decide things are OK because a murderous dictator did them first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #45 August 22, 2004 Bill, Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Maybe some good people think it is better to remove a brutal murdering dictator. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #46 August 22, 2004 >Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Very true. However, when your beliefs are expressed by going to war and killing 10,000 innocent people, you are expected to have a pretty high standard for morality. With great power comes great responsibility and all that. It's not OK to say that Saddam tortured people so we can torture people; just because he had rape rooms does not make it OK to reopen them. We are better than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #47 August 22, 2004 QuoteBill, Your version of right might not be someone elses version of right. Maybe some good people think it is better to remove a brutal murdering dictator. We hear a lot about Saddam's mass graves. The most recent mass graves in Iraq are those created by the US led invasion. It's not clear to me that "liberating" a people by killing some percentage of them and maiming a greater percentage of them is necessarily "right" by any definition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #48 August 22, 2004 US caused mass graves, eh? Let's see you back that up with some statistics. Remember to compare whatever you come up with against the mass graves we've discovered so we know how they stack up. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #49 August 22, 2004 --------------------------------- Published on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 by the Inter Press Service BAGHDAD - The story of Yusuf Fakri Amash is the story of so much of Fallujah. The 11-year-old boy just managed to escape from the town with his family. But not before the U.S. military killed his best friend. "Ahmed was in my class," he says. "He was younger than me. He was standing next to the wall of the secondary school and was trying to cross the street. He was hit by a bullet. The American troops fired the bullet." So many Fallujahans have been killed by the U.S. marines that residents have had to dig mass graves. The city's football stadium now holds more than 200 bodies. -------------------------------------------- August 25, 2002 KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- The general in charge of the U.S.-led mission in Afghanistan said Sunday he supports an investigation into allegations that hundreds of Taliban prisoners suffocated and were dumped into mass graves after surrendering to U.S.-backed forces last year. "I think in each case the right thing to do is for people to go take a look," said Gen. Tommy Franks shortly after arriving in the Afghan capital, Kabul, "and then we'll decide what we find, and then we'll take the action that's appropriate after that." ------------------------------------------ PM admits graves claim 'untrue' Sunday July 18, 2004 The Observer Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered. The claims by Blair in November and December of last year, were given widespread credence, quoted by MPs and widely published, including in the introduction to a US government pamphlet on Iraq's mass graves. In that publication - Iraq's Legacy of Terror: Mass Graves produced by USAID, the US government aid distribution agency, Blair is quoted from 20 November last year: 'We've already discovered, just so far, the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves.' On 14 December Blair repeated the claim in a statement issued by Downing Street in response to the arrest of Saddam Hussein and posted on the Labour party website that: 'The remains of 400,000 human beings [have] already [been] found in mass graves.' ------------------------------------------------ So - we've killed around 10,000 innocent people (www.iraqbodycount.org) and we've found 5000 people in mass graves from Saddam's rule, rather than the 400,000 number we used as yet another reason to invade. But I'm sure that no one is responsible for the mistake - it was just faulty intelligence, and as we all know, that means it's no one's fault. But just think! If we find another 5000 we'll be even with Saddam. Perhaps all those bodies will be found in his cleverly hidden chemical, biological and nuclear weapons storehouses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #50 August 23, 2004 JACKASS Anvil reverts back into his deepest Appalachian twang. Hold mah beer and read this.> Amazing Bill! That kid is so young and is already such an expert in fore-ensics he knows for damned certain that an American fired the bullet that killed his friend. I'll bet he didn't even have half the new fangled lab equipment the average American crime lab has either. Hot diggety damn let's get that kid on a full ride to Harvard, Yale, or Dartmouth! Yeeeeehaw! They need more folks at CSI! Just so it don't take off 'rasslin or nuthin'! Now why would such a horrible thing happen in a city like Fallujah 'bout now? Why might you ask? Let me think - OH HELL HAVE I GOT IT! There's a war going on there! Heeeeelll-fire! American troops are getting shot at and have the audacity to fire back! Well geeeee whiz! H'it ain't like squirrul huntin' back in Harlan County, Kentucky. No sireeeeee, Billy-boy! Them I-raqi's shoot bullets! Squirrel's don't but they's still a might vicious! And laaaaaaw me, would you believe it? US Marines are shootin' theeeeee hell out of folks that shoot at them? An' some of those folks they shoot at actually die? Daaayum! What the hell has war come to these days? And I thought that Hatfield and McCoy thing was a war - hot damn has this here internet been one hell of a tool for edu-mu-cashun. 200 dead, huh? They're lucky it's so few. Grandaddy said he'd like to kill 200 revenue'ers that come after his still one time, but I never did believe he shot more'n two or three. So, in re-view. Thar's a war goin' on. People are gettin' shot. There's all-eee-gashuns some Taliban got themselves suff-o-cated with no proof as 'o yet. You'unses are comparin' the sum-total of civilian casualties purportedly incurred by US forces in the course of our occ-u-pay-shun with the folks Saddam and his boys run through the ole' plastic shredder, shot, murdered, and gassed, and your point, is whut exactly? That in war folks get killed that ain't meant to? Kind o' like when I wuz shootin' at the folks who put a burnin' cross in our yard cuz they don't take to Catholics too well. I accidentally hit the neighbor's dawg. Still feel bad about missin' those KKKlan fellers, but feel worse about the dawg. Exit redneck Anvil stage right. Enter regular JACKASS Anvil stage left. This inane attempt to equate the actions of our troops in a wartime environment with the mass murder of innocents is asinine. Civilian casualties occur in war. They occur in EVERY war. They are always sad. They are always a bad thing. And they are always more painful to the family members who weep for their loss than for anyone else. Even with all that in mind the moral equivalency you are trying to infer is just sickening - you know better. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
