kelel01 1 #1 August 19, 2004 Ok, so he is a Republican in Democrats clothing . . . Quote WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, a Democrat who long ago endorsed President Bush for re-election, will deliver the keynote address at the Republican National Convention, party officials announced Thursday. Miller will speak on Wednesday at Madison Square Garden in New York on the third night of the convention. "In 1992, Sen. Miller delivered the keynote address in the very same arena at the Democrats' convention," GOP chairman Ed Gillespie said in making the announcement. "We're honored he'll be taking the stage at the Garden this year for President Bush." WTF? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 August 19, 2004 You should read his book, A National Party No More. It's more of an explanation of his beliefs and a political autobiography than a slam-fest on the democrats (anyone looking for the latter should read an Ann Coulter book, as Mr. Miller will disappoint them). Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 August 19, 2004 The man believes in personal freedom, personal responsibility, and helping only those people who need it. Why would he have anything to do with the deomocrats?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #4 August 19, 2004 QuoteWhy would he have anything to do with the deomocrats? Um, because he is one . . . And personal freedom from a Republican point of view is a laugh and a half, unless you're talking about guns, which I'm sure you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #5 August 19, 2004 >And personal freedom from a Republican point of view is a laugh and > a half, unless you're talking about guns, which I'm sure you are. There is more to personal freedom than owning guns? Sounds like a liberal trick! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #6 August 19, 2004 Oh, wait . . . we can't forget that you're free to be rich, white, male, and heterosexual. Ah, personal freedom . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #7 August 19, 2004 As opposed to liberals, who say: You're free to believe anything you want, as long as you believe what we tell you to. -or- You're free to say anyhting you want as long as you agree with us. and for the record, I happen to be libertarian, so your swpies at the republican party don't really bother me (whereas my swipes at the PC party seem to really hit home with you).witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 August 19, 2004 Quote. . . my swipes at the PC(Probably Communist) party seem to really hit home with you). there I fixed it for you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #9 August 19, 2004 That sounds remarkably right wing to me. You talk about supporting personal freedoms, but it's only as long as you're not a homosexual, want an abortion, want to join the ACLU, think that the pledge should return to its original form without "Under God", etc. . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #10 August 19, 2004 It's not that they "get at me" per se, it's just that they seem to be 100% inaccurate. It's like you're describing the wrong party altogether. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 August 19, 2004 Quote That sounds remarkably right wing to me. You talk about supporting personal freedoms, but it's only as long as you're not a homosexual, want an abortion, want to join the ACLU, think that the pledge should return to its original form without "Under God", etc. . . . Really? Is that so? Why don't you tell me where I have ever said I favor outlawing abortions, that homosexual legal unions should be illegal, or that the ACLU should be disbanded? Why don't you try reading what I write, rather that steroetyping me into a neat and tidy little box. Oh, wait, you're a democrat, so it's ok if you do that. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 August 19, 2004 Quote It's not that they "get at me" per se, it's just that they seem to be 100% inaccurate. It's like you're describing the wrong party altogether. There are none so blind as those who will not see.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #13 August 19, 2004 WHEN did I say YOU? I said "you talk about personal freedom" because you specifically wrote that. I meant it's ridiculous to associate "believing in personal freedoms" with republicans. I don't care what you believe. And for the record, I'm pro-life, and a democrat. But I support the fact that other dems are willing to support a woman's right to choose, even if I'm not. I know that's crazy, but there it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 August 19, 2004 QuoteI know that's crazy, but there it is. And there in a nut shell is the belief structure of the majority of democrats. sKerry is just another 10 degrees left of that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #15 August 19, 2004 Well, I personally do not want to support abortion, but I can appreciate that people don't see things my way. And honestly, my pro-life stance is one Republican trait I possess. But I still prefer general freedom over religious ruling, which is where the anti-abortion stance originates, in me and in most others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #16 August 19, 2004 >And there in a nut shell is the belief structure of the majority of democrats. It constantly amazes me that people actually think there's a significant difference between the two parties. Both want bigger government. Both will lie, steal, exaggerate, flip flop etc if it will get them elected. You can't believe either one of them. It's like arguing over what to drink to avoid getting fat, and deciding that your only two choices are Coke or Pepsi. People who really believe that one party is good and the other is bad remind me of Homer Simpson saying "don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #17 August 19, 2004 I'll agree with that . . . I was arguing so hard that my head was spinning, but that's more the point I was aiming for. Politicians are engaged in politics, which is the act of lying, twisting facts, spinning stories, and manipulating Americans into believeing what they say, regardless of party. And sometimes, when people flip flop, guess what? They changed their minds! Maybe, just maybe, sometimes after getting more evidence and information, they find that a prior decision was not the best one to make. Sometimes, yes, it's a blatant ploy for votes, but not always. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #18 August 19, 2004 Dude, Coke is 1000 X better than Pepsi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #19 August 19, 2004 Again, agreed. I'm voting PhillyKev for President! Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #20 August 19, 2004 >Coke is 1000 X better than Pepsi. That's because you're blinded by the hypocrisy of the "Have a Coke and a Smile" sheep. Heck, I wouldn't care if Pepsi opened a prison and started torturing people - sometimes you gotta look at the whole picture, and any fool can see that Coke is for wimpy losers in that big picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #21 August 19, 2004 QuoteDude, Coke is 1000 X better than Pepsi. DRINK RC!!!!!!!!! It's getting hard to find... Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 August 19, 2004 Drinking RC is just throwing away your soda money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #23 August 19, 2004 QuoteDrinking RC is just throwing away your soda money. and here I thought you had some sense...Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 August 19, 2004 QuoteWell, I personally do not want to support abortion, but I can appreciate that people don't see things my way. And honestly, my pro-life stance is one Republican trait I possess. But I still prefer general freedom over religious ruling, which is where the anti-abortion stance originates, in me and in most others. There is a very very slight difference between morality and pure republicanism. I think you are more on the Moral side - as opposed to the republican side - although at this juncture as in so many more - the two overlap. So don't worry - I won't count on your vote, . . . this election.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #25 August 19, 2004 QuoteDrinking RC is just throwing away your soda money. So is voting Democrat. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
