kaerock 1 #26 August 18, 2004 You don't think it a bit ridiculous to blame the movie or the parents for taking the child to that movie for the child dying? I am 'over it', I think it's a rather silly discussion, honestly. -R Quoteinsensitive to whom? Cruel to whom? Are they reading this? Get over it. The story was posted by the person who posted it to discuss taking a three year old to this kind of movie. One aspect of the story is the kid dying, and that sucks. But are we going to post and talk about every accidental death that happens in this country? You be the king and I'll overthrow your government. --KRS-ONE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #27 August 18, 2004 Quoteinsensitive to whom? Cruel to whom? Are they reading this? Get over it. The story was posted by the person who posted it to discuss taking a three year old to this kind of movie. One aspect of the story is the kid dying, and that sucks. But are we going to post and talk about every accidental death that happens in this country? Exactly. People can be perfectly good parents and still lose their children to accidental deaths. It's sad, but it's an unavoidable part of life. On the other hand it's quite easy to not introduce a 3-year-old to boogy-men in such an overt manner...you don't take them to see AVP. I would bet a fairly large amount of money that they didn't take this kid to this movie because they thought he would like it, but rather that they thought they would like it and didn't give a shit how it would affect the kid. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #28 August 18, 2004 QuoteYou don't think it a bit ridiculous to blame the movie or the parents for taking the child to that movie for the child dying? I am 'over it', I think it's a rather silly discussion, honestly. I made no attempt to blame the parents or the movie for the child's death. A child choked on some something and died. That's an unfortunate but relatively frequent occurrence that has nothing to do with why I started this thread. I'd like to know how many people here think it is acceptable to take a 3-year-old to see a movie like AVP (and on the big screen no less)? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #29 August 18, 2004 QuoteI'd like to know how many people here think it is acceptable to take a 3-year-old to see a movie like AVP That depends on the kid, he/she might like those kinds on movies, I mean, they watch crazy shit on TV and play weird ass video games, where's the problem?__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #30 August 18, 2004 3 year olds? Why am I asking the guy with the light saber? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #31 August 18, 2004 Quote3 year olds? Why am I asking the guy with the light saber? Some kids like that stuff. Hey, I had to give to one of my NIECES a copy of my Star Wars trilogy because she dig it...so there.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #32 August 18, 2004 QuoteHey, I had to give to one of my NIECES a copy of my Star Wars trilogy because she digged it...so there. I'm sure she'll remember you for that and ask you to her prom when she can't get a date Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #33 August 18, 2004 QuoteI'm sure she'll remember you for that and ask you to her prom when she can't get a date No problem, at least she will have someone to go to the prom with __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #34 August 18, 2004 Want to see an example of REALLY BAD PARENTING??? Look at this picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #35 August 18, 2004 Quote I'd like to know how many people here think it is acceptable to take a 3-year-old to see a movie like AVP (and on the big screen no less)? if the kid doesnt scream through the whole movie and annoy the rest of the theater, it shouldnt matter... at 3 he's not likely to get much from the movie other than the quick motion suprise scenes and emotional feedback from the audience's reactions..... He's not likely to be scared until everyone else reacts that way...fear is a learned behavior..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #36 August 18, 2004 not for nothing, but fear is not a learned behavior.... it is instictual. Fight or flight.... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,555 #37 August 18, 2004 I'm going to have to disagree. For one thing, a 3-year-old has a very short attention span; they either need to have something that will entertain them on the screen (unlikely for a 2-hr movie regardless of the subject), or else they're going to want to talk to you, play, run around, or do any of the other things that 3-year-olds do. By and large, they don't belong in any movies where these are inappropriate activities -- that means that if the average age of the attendees is more than, say, 5, they probably don't belong. And when they do begin to whine in a movie directed at adults (whether it's violent or not), parents tend to give them more food, tell them to shut up etc. Which isn't really great parenting in a situation they really didn't have to be in in the first place. They can definitely be scared -- their world view isn't large, but it's not small either. They're beginning to identify things and pick them out, and incorporate them into their games. 3-year-olds are a wonderful justification for videos and DVDs Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #38 August 18, 2004 Quotenot for nothing, but fear is not a learned behavior.... it is instictual. Fight or flight.... only if you recognize it as a threat, do you think a two dimensional projection triggers an instinctual response from a 3 year old? a 3 year old isn’t afraid of an oncoming car because he doesn’t know it can kill him, he doesn’t even know what death is..... i think we are agreeing more than disagreeing Wendy, there isn’t much point in bring the 3 year old, but if he's properly supervised and well behaved (ok so maybe we need a hypothetical 3 year old i've never met one that could sit still and quiet for 2+ hours) what is 'wrong' with it? Its certainly not exemplary parenting methods, but then we don’t have much of that in modern society anyway... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #39 August 18, 2004 QuoteQuotenot for nothing, but fear is not a learned behavior.... it is instictual. Fight or flight.... only if you recognize it as a threat, do you think a two dimensional projection triggers an instinctual response from a 3 year old? Good question. I doubt such a projection would trigger such a reaction in and of itself, but I can imagine that monstrous dripping fangs might trigger some sort of reaction if they appear very suddenly and are accompanied by screams of pain and/or terror. If mom & dad jump when something comes flying out of the darkness to kill something else in a similarly loud manner, I can imagine that prompting some sort of fear. When the kid's imagination is hard at work role-playing the next day, fantasizing that he is one of the characters in the movie probably won't be a positive experience. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #40 August 18, 2004 Quoteonly if you recognize it as a threat, do you think a two dimensional projection triggers an instinctual response from a 3 year old? I still remember how scared I was at 6 watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #41 August 18, 2004 why? were you told it was a scary movie? did others in the theater act timid and frightened? Do you think you were scared because you understood the material you were being shown or because you were reacting to the environment around you? (others obviously frightened and jumpy) a scary movie being shown in a well lit room with people laughing is not likely to have the same effect on an impressionable mind...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #42 August 18, 2004 QuoteBut are we going to post and talk about every accidental death that happens in this country? Only those caused by guns. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #43 August 18, 2004 What about the ones from assault rifles and the 11th round in a magazine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #44 August 18, 2004 See, it's the 11th round that's really the killer. If it would skip right to 12, everything would be fine. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #45 August 18, 2004 Quotea scary movie being shown in a well lit room with people laughing is not likely to have the same effect on an impressionable mind... Wow, that was rather irrelevant, considering we're referencing a situation in a dark movie theater with people screaming. It wasn't being played in the ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #46 August 18, 2004 Quotewasn't being played in the ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese. That's only scary to adults. Went to my nephews bday party the other day. 30 some 8 year olds *shudder* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #47 August 18, 2004 QuoteQuotea scary movie being shown in a well lit room with people laughing is not likely to have the same effect on an impressionable mind... Wow, that was rather irrelevant, considering we're referencing a situation in a dark movie theater with people screaming. It wasn't being played in the ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese. actually it's perfectly relevant, following the thread of discussion, I was asking Kev WHY he thought he felt frightened at that age, and pointing out the same stimulus in a different environment has different effects.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #48 August 18, 2004 Actually the discussion was regarding your statement that " think we are agreeing more than disagreeing Wendy, there isn’t much point in bring the 3 year old, but if he's properly supervised and well behaved (ok so maybe we need a hypothetical 3 year old i've never met one that could sit still and quiet for 2+ hours) what is 'wrong' with it? " That has nothing to do with a different environment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #49 August 18, 2004 the quote she took out of context was a specific question relating to your statement about "I remember being frightened..." I asked you why you thought you were frightened, the content of the movie or the environment you saw it in (and were preprepared to be scared possibly) and how much you thought each weighed on your mental state. do you think the movie would have had the same effect on you in a well lit room with adults who were obviously unafraid? do you think a 3 year old would be frightened by an otherwise scary movie under the same circumstances? Do you think that 3 year old responds more to the 2 dimensional visual images or the emotional level/response of the adults around him?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #50 August 18, 2004 Don't know, but the question being addressed originally was, "I'd like to know how many people here think it is acceptable to take a 3-year-old to see a movie like AVP (and on the big screen no less)?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
