PhillyKev 0 #1 August 11, 2004 Keyes, the Republican candidate for senate in Illinois who isn't from Illinois and doesn't live in Illinois had this to say: "I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton's willingness to go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there. So I certainly wouldn't imitate it," Keyes said on Fox News in March 2000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 August 11, 2004 Yep he was a bad choice. Andrea Barthwell was the best choice. She lived in Chicago and is a Dr. But whoever was selected was just a sacrifice. I think both Hillary and Keyes are both wrong for doing it. However, it is not illegal."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 August 11, 2004 Quote However, it is not illegal. Just because it isn't - doesn't mean it shouldn't be.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #4 August 11, 2004 Agreed. This disgusts me. Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 August 11, 2004 Damn you, Vinny. Now I can't say that you always follow the GOP party line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #6 August 11, 2004 Damn me! Damn TheAnvil! He's a JACKAAAAAAASSSSS!!!! http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1189593;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #7 August 11, 2004 QuoteJust because it isn't - doesn't mean it shouldn't be. I don't agree...It is the states rights to decide who they want to represent them..If the state is so stupid as to allow some jackass from another state to run...Then it is their fault. Also if the people in the state are so stupid as to vote for someone that does not live in the state...again shame on them. If you want a guy that can't understand your issues....Even if he claims to...You are an idiot."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 August 11, 2004 Quote If you want a guy that can't understand your issues....Even if he claims to...You are an idiot. So everyone in New York (that voted for Billary) is an idiot - I'll buy that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #9 August 11, 2004 I know Hillary bought a house in New York in advance, though she wasn't really living in it, so she was technically in compliance with the law. I don't know if IL has a similar law.__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #10 August 11, 2004 Long, but witty... A discourse from one of my D.C. friends... Well, it's official. Alan Keyes is a hypocrite. The arch-conservative radio talk show moralist and combined four-time loser in runs for president and the U.S. Senate has graciously accepted the Republican nomination for the United States Senate again -- this time in Illinois, a state he has never called home. It's ironic that the Republican Keyes is running in the state that claims the birthplace of Hillary Clinton and the political birthright of Abraham Lincoln. You see, when Hillary decided to run in New York, Keyes not only opposed her on ideological grounds, but also on grounds that Clinton's carpetbagging posed a threat to the very existence of the United States of America. "I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton's willingness to go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there," Keyes told ideological buddy Pat Buchanan on MSNBC in 2000. But when it came time for Alan Keyes to make a personal choice -- the destruction of federalism and America as we know it, or filling his insatiable appetite for self-promotion -- Keyes said America be damned. Of course, there is a major difference between Hillary Clinton's run in New York and Keyes's desperate reach for the brass ring in Illinois. Keyes will never have the opportunity to "pretend to represent people" in Illinois because he is unelectable. He not only loses races, he gets Chicago-Bulls-post-Jordan-era spanked in them. We can all breathe a sigh of relief. The state of our union should survive the Keyes candidacy. How a four-time loser winds up with the nomination for a major office in a random state is a study in pathetic pandering and outright incompetence. The Illinois Republican Party has fallen into a bizarre trap whereby they cannot seem to escape from nominating ethics-plagued politicians named Ryan to run for office. Former Gov. George Ryan left office one step ahead of a subpoena. Republican gubernatorial nominee Jim Ryan's candidacy went down in part due to his failure to investigate a bribes-for-licenses scandal in Illinois during his tenure as state attorney general. And the latest Ryan, Republican Senate nominee Jack, couldn't escape the calumny associated with charges his wife made in a child-custody filing. With no Ryans to choose from (former Bears defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan apparently had little interest in the job), the white-haired brain trust of the GOP machinery needed a warm body to take on Democratic nominee Barack Obama. Their first choice, Mike Ditka (Buddy Ryan's boss with the Bears), wisely "da clined" after musing aloud about inflicting bodily harm on certain liberal senators. That's when, to paraphrase the late Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas, the Illinois GOP became "pander bears." Forget the Ryans, forget Ditka, find us a black Republican -- any black Republican. Why? Because Obama is black, so what better way to, ugh, make history than to replace our scandal-scarred candidate with a black candidate chosen by party hacks behind closed doors? Golly, that guarantees that no matter who wins, the U.S. Senate will have at least one black senator. Brilliant, huh? The problem was that the one Illinois black Republican that they could find, Andrea Barthwell, wasn't good enough. So they scoured the nation for black Republicans. Condi Rice and Colin Powell had real jobs, but Keyes wasn't doing anything special except droning on to the faithful on AM radio. That brings us back to Mr. Integrity -- excuse me -- Ambassador Integrity, Alan Keyes. Keyes abhors affirmative action. He calls it patronizing and says it holds black people back. Maybe he's right, but it hasn't held Keyes back. The only reason Keyes was given the party nod is because he is black. There is no other way to explain it. He's not from the state, he's never come close to winning an election, and he decries carpetbagging as a threat to the nation. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of his candidacy. If the Illinois GOP was searching for a radio talk-show host as a candidate, they could have chosen Ollie North, Chuck Colson, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. But no, Keyes is being called on to fill precisely the type of quota that he and the Grand Old Party decry -- a quota of one. The test of character is to make a choice that is against one's personal interests. After spending decades preaching to others about morality and virtue, Alan Keyes failed the character test by saying yes to the Illinois Senate race. Come to think of it, maybe Keyes is the perfect fit for the Illinois Republican Party."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 August 11, 2004 QuoteI know Hillary bought a house in New York in advance, though she wasn't really living in it, so she was technically in compliance with the law. I don't know if IL has a similar law. You have to take residence by a certain date...Off the top of my head I think it is Sep 20th...nope It's election day... So lets face it...The GOP picked him on the "issues"...Bullshit. They picked him since he was black. Not only that but they had a better option in Barthwell. I don't know what the GOP was thinking here."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #12 August 11, 2004 Don't worry about it - he has about as much chance of being elected as I have.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 August 11, 2004 Quote Don't worry about it - he has about as much chance of being elected as I have. Or, to put it more poetically as the article from TypicalFish so eloquently stated "Chicago-Bulls-post-Jordan-era spanked " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #14 August 12, 2004 QuoteDon't worry about it - he has about as much chance of being elected as I have. I think I would rather see you run."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
