TheAnvil 0 #1 August 9, 2004 on many levels. Bad move, Mr. President. Clicky Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 August 9, 2004 Well I think its a bad move.... But what are the Dems gonna say if they say this election was run correctly and their canodate still lost (Ya know, just like last time that they still have not shut up about)"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #3 August 9, 2004 QuoteBut what are the Dems gonna say if they say this election was run correctly and their canodate still lost Then the DEMS will call the League Of Superheroes to monitor the U.N __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #4 August 9, 2004 13 people due to some 1990 agreement to observe each others elections, probably for some 'educational' agenda, having to stay 50 feet away - that doesn't bother me. It may have been stupid to agree to that in 1990, but it amounts to nothing really.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 August 9, 2004 QuoteBut what are the Dems gonna say if they say this election was run correctly and their canodate still lost (Ya know, just like last time that they still have not shut up about) Congratulations. You are the winner!! I was holding a secret contest to see which right winger on here would be the fifth one in a row to bring up the 2000 election controversy before any left wingers mentioned it. Ironically it's always brought up by you guys to complain about how we keep bringing it up.....even though we don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #6 August 9, 2004 QuoteCongratulations. You are the winner!! I was holding a secret contest to see which right winger on here would be the fifth one in a row to bring up the 2000 election controversy before any left wingers mentioned it. Ironically it's always brought up by you guys to complain about how we keep bringing it up.....even though we don't. You don't have to bring it up...Your heros like Moore do it for you, and then you blindly follow him."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 August 9, 2004 QuoteYour heros like Moore do it for you, and then you blindly follow him. Do you have some basis for that statement, or just attacking me? Moore is not my hero. I thought the movie was interesting and his unique way of portraying things is somewhat entertaining, but he obviously is not a news source, more of a propagandist. Also, I never heard of him until well after I decided that Bush was the worst thing to happen to this country in my lifetime, so maybe he's blindly following me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflydrew 0 #8 August 9, 2004 One of the roles of the UN is to assist nations in election processes... What's so sickening if they do it here, too? Seriously, if the dems win the republicans will whiiiinnnnee, and if the rebuplicans win, the dems will whiiiinne. If it's a tie, forget about it. Why not have an independent group monitoring the elections? It's all about a fair democracy where people's votes are counted, right? Why shouldn't it be monitored? What are you so afraid of? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #9 August 9, 2004 QuoteIt's all about a fair democracy where people's votes are counted, right? Why shouldn't it be monitored? The last election was monitored...by us. QuoteWhat are you so afraid of? The UN "deciding" the election if they step in. They don't like the current administration since GWB called their BS... If the UN picks a Pres...It will be anyone but W...The Dems new slogan."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #10 August 9, 2004 I agree that we don't need and shouldn't have observers from other countries for our elections. But, even if they are allowed, they are observers. They don't get to decide anything. So that's not a good reason to oppose it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 August 9, 2004 QuoteI agree that we don't need and shouldn't have observers from other countries for our elections. But, even if they are allowed, they are observers. They don't get to decide anything. So that's not a good reason to oppose it. IF they only are observers, and STAY only observers whats the point? All they would have to do is say that its fishy and then who decides what is the final result? It is giving to much power to an organization that HAS political agendas in the US."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #12 August 9, 2004 QuoteI agree that we don't need and shouldn't have observers from other countries for our elections. But, even if they are allowed, they are observers. They don't get to decide anything. So that's not a good reason to oppose it. Last time there was a bunch of b.s. made up by the Dems to try to steal the election by way of Florida. They first moved to get the military votes thrown out because they knew the military voted 80% Republican. Then they went to highly Democrat counties where they had the officials reviewing the ballots that were Democrats. With all the cherry picking they did they still couldn't find a way to steal the election. So now if we have "observers", with their own interests in mind trying to settle disputes what person that doesn't have there head in the sand is not going to realize that they will swing it whichever ways suits them best. Obviously they are going to put all their efforts to unseat W. and obviously that is the reason Dems were the first to push this stupid idea foward. Bush giving into this crap sickens me as well. Its a different variation of the same mistake Republicans have been making for a long time. That mistake being to try to make the whinning Democrats happy and maybe they will act civilized. But it never works.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #13 August 9, 2004 It's not the U.N. that will be monitoring (thank God). Our elections already are monitored - by Dems and Repubs alike - and need no outside interlopers to ensure their veracity. This invitation disgusts me thoroughly because one of the unwritten pillars of US power has always been the integrity of our democratic process (yes, I know we're not a democracy per se, but you get the point I'm sure). That was one of the main reasons (among many others, to be sure) ALGORE's moronic judicial shenanigans in '00 perturbed me to such an extent. This monitoring just further erodes that pillar that ALGORE and friends did their best to chop down. The morons that requested monitoring in and of themselves piss me off on many levels, but I could write a book on that and won't dwell on it here. Vinny the Anvil Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 August 9, 2004 QuoteALGORE's moronic judicial shenanigans in '00 perturbed me to such an extent. How did you feel about the Bush shenanigans? Personally, I've admitted that both sides are at fault. Are you capable of admitting fault from your side of the fence? Or were the republicans all 100% completely honest and full of........integrity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #15 August 9, 2004 To which shenanigans are you referring, exactly? I don't seem to recall Republicans challenging the elections in the courts or preventing the FL SecState from carrying out her duty as mandated by law. Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 August 9, 2004 That's what I thought. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #17 August 9, 2004 So are you admitting you are incapable of doing so? That's what I thought. Thanks. Always nice to be proven correct. Dammit I am a seeeeexy JACKASS Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #18 August 9, 2004 I'm admitting that I'm not going to bother trying to prove anything to you. It's abundantly clear to anyone on these forums that you are incapable of conceding any truth you don't get from right wing propaganda machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #19 August 9, 2004 QuoteIt's abundantly clear to anyone on these forums that you are incapable of conceding any truth you don't get from right wing propaganda machines. Odd that I support legalization of marijuana and just today yet again criticized the president here in the forums. Your contention does not hold under any paradigm of logic that does not ignore facts. But think that if it makes you feel better. Always good to have everyone happy. Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #20 August 9, 2004 Well there doesn't seem to be a stance regarding marijuana on the party platform at www.rnc.org, and criticising Bush for something the party is criticising him for shows you don't follow party lines how? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #21 August 9, 2004 Ahhh so now the rank and file republicans don't oppose the legalization of marijuana because it's not on their website, eh? What a lame-o attempt at a dodge. Since you're once again vainly attempting to prove I only follow GOP principles, let me remind you: - I support legalization of marijuana (and other soft drugs) - I support very very very early term abortion from a legal (but certainly not moral) standpoint - I despise the end of double taxation of corporate dividends Among other things. None of the above would get me a standing ovation at any Republican gathering. Ignore the facts if you like. You'll be in good company with Kerry supporters if that's a habit of yours. Perhaps you could lead some sort of support group. Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 August 9, 2004 I didn't say anything about rank and file republicans. I compared the opinions you express on here to the republican party line a/k/a their position statement. Quote- I support legalization of marijuana (and other soft drugs) - I support very very very early term abortion from a legal (but certainly not moral) standpoint - I despise the end of double taxation of corporate dividends Among other things. None of the above would get me a standing ovation at any Republican gathering. Very true. So why do you support them so vehemently? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #23 August 9, 2004 QuoteVery true. So why do you support them so vehemently? Cause its better than the other "darker" side? I mean, why do you support Kerry? Is it because you LIKE him?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #24 August 9, 2004 QuoteAmong other things. None of the above would get me a standing ovation at any Republican gathering. I'd cheer. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #25 August 9, 2004 QuoteI mean, why do you support Kerry? A couple reasons. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1135740;search_string=support%20kerry;#1135740 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1100717;search_string=support%20kerry;#1100717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
