This will stop the terrorists in their tracks

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>Kerry and his old, drunken crewmates . . . . .

Odd that you'd take potshots at vets you don't know, and claim that vets are clueless when it comes to understanding terrorism. Surely an oil tycoon who is excellent at running companies into the ground would do a better job than a vet who has seen combat, eh? After all, terrorists are far more fearful of a leveraged buyout than by the threat of force.

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The right man is in the house.

The right man will stay in the house.

Kerry can flip-flop until the cows come home. The public that hasn't caught on to him will before the election.

Forty-two

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Joe made his fame and fortune by taking vague, ill-defined threats that tap into some deep rooted emotions in our society ...and getting a significant portion of our citizens up in arms. His freedom crushing witch hunts were supported by a large number of people who felt we must crush freedoms to be safe.

Don't trade what made this country great for a bit of false security.

Michael

I guess I just do not see examining the open spots in the security surrounding the GA segment as a "freedom crushing witch hunt". Especially when the original point of my post was to say that we shouldn't just ignore it because it hasn't happened before. If there is a vulnerability, it should be identified and addressed, no matter how trivial it may seem. I am sure passenger screeners didn't think much of box cutters prior to September 11th, either. I guess I just don't see keeping your mind open to possibilities as a parallel for McCarthyism...

Yeah, the McCarthyites didn't see it either ...at the time. I wonder how many look back on the era and feel they did a good job protecting our country?

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So, Kev - why is it good when the Democrats want to expand welfare and the failed socialized medicine experiment,

Because I believe that health care and food should be fundamental rights.

Guaranteed benefits, yes. "Fundamental rights"?! No way. You can't put health care and food on a level with the right to self defense, the right to freedom of worship and conscience, and the rights to speak and assemble freely.

Why should we be the only species that feels a fundamental entitlement to food? Every member of every other species has to obtain food for itself, essentially. The lion that's too lazy to hunt? It dies. The human too lazy to work a job to get food? It should be on the public teat? No, thank you. How and where would we draw an objective line between those who don't have food or health care because they're not working to their ability to obtain them, and those who just can't possibly get it for themselves (the sick, maimed, disabled...)? What you want to get out of life is YOUR responsibility to obtain. If that is diamonds, cars, skydive gear -- or security and peace of mind in case you become injured or sick -- it is YOUR responsibility to avail yourself of them.

But no way is health care on a level with our inalienable rights.

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"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Some of the smaller airports are so loose, a thief or terriorist could pick or choose what kind of aircraft they might want. I remember visiting an airport that had both hanger doors open, security gate open, and nobody present. The FBO's kid just left for a few hours.
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correction - MOST of the GA airports are loose. It is sill yto say that we can even control it.

Q: Aren't you the one who keeps saying we can and should try to control the 250,000,000 guns that are in private hands in the U.S.?

There are only a few thousand airports in the country, and a few tens of thousands of pilots (or something like that) and you say we can't possibly control them? But we can control guns that could be made by any knowledgeable, competent machinist even if all the existing ones were to disappear somehow. Hmmm...

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Haven't seen you crapping on what Kerry says he is going to do with Homeland Security

That's because I like what Kerry has to say about homeland security. Instead of cutting funding to first responders like Bush did, he will increase it. He said he will harden targets such as nuclear and chemical facilities, and seaports. And he will increase scrutiny of visas.

All of which makes him sound like a kid talking to Santa about what he wants for Christmas: "I want a pony and a race car and an airplane and a puppy and a mansion and a speedboat and a submarine and a..."

I mean, this guy makes promises that he can't possibly keep, and people say they like what he's suggesting, as though it has any connection to the reality they're ever gonna get from him...

Why are you allowing yourself to be suckered, dude? Are you new to hearing the promises of presidential candidates or something?

Reminds me of the quip, "Yeah, and I promise not to cum in your mouth, too."

No one ever means it. They say it to get you to acquiesce.

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old, drunken crewmates sloshing around

Do you know any of these guys? Have you read some article about them being drunk and sloshing around? Or are you just being hateful and slanderous?

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You can't put health care and food on a level with the right to self defense, the right to freedom of worship and conscience, and the rights to speak and assemble freely.

You can't? Why?

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Why should we be the only species that feels a fundamental entitlement to food? Every member of every other species has to obtain food for itself, essentially. The lion that's too lazy to hunt? It dies. The human too lazy to work a job to get food? It should be on the public teat? No, thank you.

Compassion, look it up.

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And if that doesn't work his riveting, bullshit, super-imposed bullet movie will surly do the trick.

You got more info on this?

I heard that Kerry had a faked war movie...But I have not seen it.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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>Will one of these hamsters seal the Mexican border? I don't think so.

Wouldn't help with terrorism much (the Canadian border is much more porous) but it would cut down on illegal immigration. Would cost tens of billions, though - are you willing to shell out the money?

The Canadian border is very porous especially at night. I have a friend in the Michigan Nat Guard who flew the Canadian border last year (this year he goes to Iraq). He was amazed at the amount of activity at night to include smuggling. Some of the most active areas were adjacent to Indian reservations on the Canadian side. He had heard that for a price, the Indians would take someone across. He also said the Canadian Mounties were reluctant to interfere with Indian affairs. All this didn't really matter because the aircrews had no way of vectoring law enforcement to these remote crossings. My friend felt like they were just going through the motions. The government had no real intentions of stopping border traffic.

As far as the Mexican border is concerned, I think it is more handy for terrorists. As for illegal aliens, how many is too many? Yes, I think we should shell out some money.

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I heard that Kerry had a faked war movie...But I have not seen it.

ROFLMAO. Yeah he does. Steven Speilberg directed it. It comes complete with super-imposed bullets and all the dramatic bells and whistles you'd see in a fictional drama.

Is anyone else that was in the military as outraged as I am that this piece of shit allegedly self-inflicted 2 out of 3 of his injuries that he received Purple Hearts for to get the free ticket home?

If this is true he deserves to have the shit beat out of him...real bad.

Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

Forty-two

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I heard that Kerry had a faked war movie...But I have not seen it.

ROFLMAO. Yeah he does. Steven Speilberg directed it. It comes complete with super-imposed bullets and all the dramatic bells and whistles you'd see in a fictional drama.

Is anyone else that was in the military as outraged as I am that this piece of shit allegedly self-inflicted 2 out of 3 of his injuries that he received Purple Hearts for to get the free ticket home?

If this is true he deserves to have the shit beat out of him...real bad.

Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

Just let's assume for a moment that his Purple Hearts and Silver Star were properly earned. What do you think should happen to the POS's that started and PROPAGATE the false allegations?

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Is anyone else that was in the military as outraged as I am

Were you in the military?

Forty-two

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Were you in the military?

You didn't answer his question.

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Is anyone else that was in the military as outraged as I am that this piece of shit allegedly self-inflicted 2 out of 3 of his injuries that he received Purple Hearts for to get the free ticket home?

If this is true he deserves to have the shit beat out of him...real bad.

Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

No. I save my outrage for when i have facts to back it up, not rumors and allegations that are really only being raised because he was running for office...

do i think he deserved those medals? no, not based on the descriptions for how he 'earned' them, but that decision isn’t up to me, or you, or anyone commenting after the fact. the only person it is up to was his commanding officers who recommended (and approved)him for them...

giving out medals and ribbons for nothing and next to nothing has been pretty standard military practice for centuries, it wasn’t any different in Vietnam and it isn’t any different today....."give me enough ribbon and i can conquer the world' -N. Bonaparte


hell I’ve seen charts that listed what awards you were eligible for (during a given exercise) that were based completely on rank...no matter if you did the exact same job on a different shift.. you got one award based on rank someone else got another...

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Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

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I never saw this happen.

I'm sure there's lots of things you've never seen.

Forty-two

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I never saw this happen.

I'm sure there's lots of things you've never seen.

Just an honest answer. I'm sure there's lots of things you've never seen.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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And John...

What do you think of the made up war movie staring Kerry?

Even you would have to admit thats pretty messed up.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

Where did you find this little piece of information. I spent 37 months and 11 day in RVN. I never saw this happen. I'm sure it happened in some REMF outfit once in a while. That's hardly very common.

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Is anyone else that was in the military as outraged as I am

Were you in the military?

I didn't write that - you have your posts all screwed up.

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I never saw this happen.

I'm sure there's lots of things you've never seen.

Just let's assume for a moment that his Purple Hearts and Silver Star were properly earned. What do you think should happen to the POS's that started and PROPAGATE the false allegations?

Maybe you'll answer this time.

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And John...

What do you think of the made up war movie staring Kerry?

Even you would have to admit thats pretty messed up.

Wasn't aware there was one. What's it called?

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Although officers reccomending other officers for the purple heart over bogus injuries was a very common practice during Vietnam. Happened a lot.

Where did you find this little piece of information. I spent 37 months and 11 day in RVN. I never saw this happen. I'm sure it happened in some REMF outfit once in a while. That's hardly very common.

Ummm - I didn't write that, tunaplanet did.

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ROFLMAO. Yeah he does. Steven Speilberg directed it. It comes complete with super-imposed bullets and all the dramatic bells and whistles you'd see in a fictional drama.

All published movies that have John Kerry in them, not one of them has anything to do with Steven Speilberg.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0449902/

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