mikkey 0 #26 August 3, 2004 Well, you need to take into account that: a) the Robber did not carry a gun or knife - but knuckle duster b) The guard shot him after the incident while he was in his getaway car trying to start it. She walke up to the side window and shot him from a short distance through the window into his head. I do not think society can tolerate that guards (or police) just kill a robber who does not have a deadly weapon and who does not threaten live. Would be like imposing death penalty on robbery. What is next? Chopping poeple hands off for stealing?--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #27 August 3, 2004 Are you nuts? What was not deadly about his weapon? She's lucky to be alive. What exactly would you do after someone beat you to the ground, fractured your skull, and stole $80,000 from you? Let's just ignore the brain damage for now. Geezus....maybe she should have offered him a blow job instead? Ms Brown suffered a fractured skull, a fractured eye socket, a fractured nose, a fractured left hand and possible brain damage when the 25-year-old grabbed her hair, king-hit her and then battered her to the ground. "I looked up through a bloody haze," Ms Brown said. "I did not know where I was or exactly what had happened to me. All I knew was that blood was pouring into my eyes and my head was throbbing." Despite her injuries, which also include severe concussion and a floating bone fragment behind her eyeball, Ms Brown said she felt sympathy for Aquilina's family and expressed remorse for what had occurred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #28 August 3, 2004 QuoteAre you nuts? What was not deadly about his weapon? She's lucky to be alive. What exactly would you do after someone beat you to the ground, fractured your skull, and stole $80,000 from you? Let's just ignore the brain damage for now. Geezus....maybe she should have offered him a blow job instead? Ms Brown suffered a fractured skull, a fractured eye socket, a fractured nose, a fractured left hand and possible brain damage when the 25-year-old grabbed her hair, king-hit her and then battered her to the ground. "I looked up through a bloody haze," Ms Brown said. "I did not know where I was or exactly what had happened to me. All I knew was that blood was pouring into my eyes and my head was throbbing." Despite her injuries, which also include severe concussion and a floating bone fragment behind her eyeball, Ms Brown said she felt sympathy for Aquilina's family and expressed remorse for what had occurred. I hope that any claim of sympathy or remorse is just an act to keep the authorities and media off her back. I hope that she is secretly saying to herself, "Fuck you, assholes. Go on believing I'm sorry for killing the piece of shit who did this to me. All the sweeter." I just don't understand why a thread like this is a magnet for people who want us to go EASY on the kind of sick shitwad who would beat a woman this badly. The time for compassion for such a piece of human waste is long gone by the time he is capable of committing such an act. He is beyond caring anything for at that point. And to spare his life is to leave him capable of doing the same thing to another woman. Anyone who pussies out of fighting back against such a piece of shit is culpable for the harm he does to others in the future. I'm sick of this "coddle the criminal" bullshit, as though a criminal's life is of the same value as that of his innocent victim. Spread some horseshit on that argument, eat it and die choking. Never will I equate a criminal human life with a law-abiding one. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #29 August 3, 2004 Well, actually, my post had nothing to do with that at all. I wasn't trying to legitimize vengeance or street justice. That's just about one of the angriest posts I've ever seen. I was just pointing out that I'm sure she sure as hell felt like her life was in danger at the time. Trying to recreate why she shot the guy while he wasn't currently in the process of cracking open her skull is pretty ridiculous. There was one single cause of this man's death, and that was his action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #30 August 3, 2004 QuoteTrying to recreate why she shot the guy while he wasn't currently in the process of cracking open her skull is pretty ridiculous. There was one single cause of this man's death, and that was his action. Geeez, don't let the facts get in the way. The robber had the money and was in the process of leaving, i.e. had stopped the attack on her. The women walked up to the car he was in the process of starting in order to drive away and shot his head off from close distance. The guys should go to jail, but should he be "executed" for his crime? Is it ok to shoot somebody after they have stopped attacking you and clearly are no longer threatening your live?--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #31 August 3, 2004 QuoteWhile I agree that as portrayed the whole thing is horrible why are we believing the details of this story when we know the details of so many other news stories are wrong? There is potentially a whole lot of time between him running for the car and her shooting him. NOT DEFENDING ANYONE HERE just pointing out what seems like a break in the story. The guy was clearly a punk. amen. there is a lot of information missing here. after he beat her, did he walk away, get in the car, and was starting it when she got up, walked over to the car, aimed through the side window and shot him in the head? or was he turning the car toward her and she fired at him and killed him? theres a big difference (legally) between those two. either way, the dead guys family are assholes. saying hes a nice guy when hes a convicted felon who beats the crap outta women for money. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #32 August 3, 2004 Quoteamen. there is a lot of information missing here. after he beat her, did he walk away, get in the car, and was starting it when she got up, walked over to the car, aimed through the side window and shot him in the head? or was he turning the car toward her and she fired at him and killed him? theres a big difference (legally) between those two. As you described it seems. Witnesses (according to the press - so we will have to wait for the evidence in court) say he took the money and went to the car. She got up followed him and shot him at close range in the head through the side window while he was starting the car.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #33 August 3, 2004 QuoteGeeez, don't let the facts get in the way. The robber had the money and was in the process of leaving, i.e. had stopped the attack on her. The women walked up to the car he was in the process of starting in order to drive away and shot his head off from close distance. The guys should go to jail, but should he be "executed" for his crime? Is it ok to shoot somebody after they have stopped attacking you and clearly are no longer threatening your live? I grant that it is unjustifiable to shoot and kill a person who is no longer a threat. We have to have that established at law. However, I have never been in this woman's position -- i.e. skull and face crushed, etc. She probably didn't even know for sure she was not dying. If I add to that the absolute loathing I have for the criminal shitbag who beat her in the robbery, I cheer the fact that she offed the motherfucker. I rejoice that society no longer has him living as a constant threat to anyone's peace or safety. The world is better for him being dead, indisputably. My "angry post" regards my feelings that it is SICK how many people come out of the woodwork in apparent LAMENTATION of his death! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #34 August 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteamen. there is a lot of information missing here. after he beat her, did he walk away, get in the car, and was starting it when she got up, walked over to the car, aimed through the side window and shot him in the head? or was he turning the car toward her and she fired at him and killed him? theres a big difference (legally) between those two. As you described it seems. Witnesses (according to the press - so we will have to wait for the evidence in court) say he took the money and went to the car. She got up followed him and shot him at close range in the head through the side window while he was starting the car. I have read that if one believes that an attacker continues to be a threat to others in the vicinity, that one can use deadly force against him. I'm not sure if that just applies (legally) to police, though, because I think what I read was in regard to shooting at a felon who is fleeing. The standard was something about whether he might be intending to do others harm even as or after he flees. Like if a guy was walking down the street with an AK-47 shooting at random, and a cop sees him, and the guy turns and walks away with his back to the cop, and maybe fires in the opposite direction, the cop can still shoot him. Could it be that this woman feared that if she just continued to lie on the ground, or stand around, he was going to run over her with the car? Maybe he had even said something to that efffect. Who knows? All I know is, it is hard to argue with the evidence that she had skull and eyesocket fractures. I'd have fuckin' killed the guy if I were her, I think. Shit, I could see myself donating to her defense fund. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #35 August 3, 2004 For what it seems with the info we have, none of them went with the law. He obviously is a criminal, but according to witness she shooted when he wasn´t threatening her life (the car was not heading towards her. Not sure about the law in that case. Here is spain she would be charged with murder for sure. I think she should be charged, and if condemned pay either a very lenient sentence or not any at all. But she shouldn´t be working again with guns. No pity for him, none at all, but shouldn´t she be helping the police intstead of making quick money on TV? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #36 August 3, 2004 Sounds like he had it coming. However, as a point of law. theres a fine line between self defence and retribution. ie: Was he still a threat when he was shot? Personaly I hope she gets off. Another scumbag off the planet, good ridence.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #37 August 3, 2004 Well, it should be noted by all that my title/subject line is incorrect. She is not charged with murder. (that's what I get for trusting a newpaper article) The police want to talk to her, and she is refusing to do an interview/interrogation with them. She is not indicted, much less charged, with a crime as of yet (if you trust the general consensus of newspapers, that is). There is a fine line, but it is curvy, wavy, and blurry when you're the one toe-ing it. I wonder how this one will turn out. In a very anti-climactic way, I'll wager.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #38 August 3, 2004 QuoteAnyone who pussies out of fighting back against such a piece of shit is culpable for the harm he does to others in the future. reply] just curious - if this happened as we think it did (i.e. she shot him at close range as he was about to drive off) how is that "fighting back" and not a revenge/retribution shooting? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #39 August 3, 2004 QuoteThe women (who had a cracked skull and brain damage due to his attack on her) walked up to the car he was in the process of starting Do you think maybe she might have legitimately believed he was still a threat because she was in shock and had brain damage as a direct result of his actions? If he actually was attempting to flee, it's not good that she shot him. But was she capable of making that determination or did she think she was still fighting for her life? How can you honestly say that you think she deserves to be charged with murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikkey 0 #40 August 3, 2004 QuoteWell, it should be noted by all that my title/subject line is incorrect. She is not charged with murder. (that's what I get for trusting a newpaper article) Update: She has been charged now, has now met police and been interviewed. Is free and scheduled to appear for initial hearing in court in about a month time.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikkey 0 #41 August 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe women (who had a cracked skull and brain damage due to his attack on her) walked up to the car he was in the process of starting Do you think maybe she might have legitimately believed he was still a threat because she was in shock and had brain damage as a direct result of his actions? If he actually was attempting to flee, it's not good that she shot him. But was she capable of making that determination or did she think she was still fighting for her life? How can you honestly say that you think she deserves to be charged with murder? I saw some of her TV interview and she did not look that badly injured. The brain damage thing could be spin from her defence. There is footage from the crime scene (TV news crew so probably an hour after the event) where she is walking calmly around the crime scene with a towl wrapped around the head. So don't know how serious her injuries really are. This is what the justice system is here for. Investigate, determine the facts and then get it judged by the justice system. The facts will then be clear. Don't jump to conclusions based on media reports. However, based on the initial "facts" the police has no choice then to charge her with murder in our legal system. If she a) gets convicted and b) which penalty - that will depend on a number of things.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #42 August 3, 2004 What part of fractured skull, eye socket, nose, and hand, makes you wonder how badly she was injured? I have to tell you that your attitude sickens me. What if this woman were your sister, or your wife, or your mother? Would you still advocate charging her with murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #43 August 3, 2004 QuoteWhat if this woman were your sister, or your wife, or your mother? Would you still advocate charging her with murder? Kinda depends on whether or not she'd murdered someone. Put your hand up if you know ALL of the facts of this case? Now put your hand up if you feel qualified to make a call on whether or not this woman should be convicted of Murder? My hand aint up, and I have several certificates that say I am qualified to make such determinations... but then I don't have ALL of the facts. So far I've heard the story change from one side of the equation to the other. First my minds eye sees her lying on the ground struggling with an armed assailant when her gun goes off. Next I see her calmly walk up to a guy in a truck who is in the process of escaping, aim at his head and blow his brains out. I don't know which is true, I suspect somewhere in the middle, but then - I was not there. Thus I don’t have all of the facts. Even people who were there do not have all the facts. That’s why we have courts – they collate all of the facts and sift through them. While you are all shouting at each other remember that you - the public - rarely hear the full story, and what you do hear is always heavily biased towards one side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Botellines 0 #44 August 3, 2004 I understand your reasons and i agree. A man beating a woman up is disgusting. However, she was a security guard (knew the risks) and had a gun (big responsability). It seems for the media that when it happened, she went towards the robber and shot him in the head. I am sure she must has been confused as hell, but if someone fears his/her life, wouldn´t move away from the attacker? This is a valid question and it is undeniable the fact that he died. If we add the she may not be fully cooperating with the police, i see perfectly normal that she gets charged with murder. A different issue is wether she should be condemned, i think not, but IMO it is necesary to find out exactly what happened even if it is only to clear her name and confidently giving her gun license back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #45 August 3, 2004 My point is that even if it were your second scenario of calmly walking up to the car. She was in SHOCK and had a fractured skull. No matter how you slice it, that is a mitigating circumstance. If her head wasn't cracked open you might have a point. But that single fact alone is enough to absolve her of any guilt. Charging someone with murder is not a benign action designed to discover the truth. It is an attempt to punish someone that you feels deserves it. Maybe she won't be found guilty, but should she be put in that jeopardy in the first place? Your opinion that she should be charged with murder is not a neutral stance. I'll ask again. Knowing what you know about this, if it were someone you cared about, would you advocate charging them with murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikkey 0 #46 August 3, 2004 Interesting how much you know about the case. Seems you have all the facts. I do not know the exact nature of her injuries. I have seen her give a TV interview within 48 hours of the shooting and she had some facial injuries but did however not "look" like it was as bad as you describe. If she had a fractured skull she probably would be in hospital. I leave it to the proper authorities to establish the facts. If she walked up and shot the guys head off after the fact, then there is no choice then to charge her with murder. If she is convicted depends on what the investigation shows. The interesting side of the story is when does self-defence end and revenge killing start. Seems you need to take a cold shower instead making comments about my "attitude".--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #47 August 3, 2004 QuoteI understand your reasons and i agree. A man beating a woman up is disgusting. You don't understand my reasons at all. Because that statement has nothing to do with it. QuoteI am sure she must has been confused as hell, but if someone fears his/her life, wouldn´t move away from the attacker? Split open your skull and let me know. Tell you what, slam your self in the face with a tire iron a few times and then complete a book of logic puzzles. Post the results. QuoteThis is a valid question and it is undeniable the fact that he died. It is a valid question for someone who hasn't just had their head cracked open. That matter is fact. There is only one undeniable, undefensible action in this story that led to this man's death, and that was his choice to attack this woman. QuoteIf we add the she may not be fully cooperating with the police, i see perfectly normal that she gets charged with murder. I guess they don't have a right to remain silent over there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #48 August 3, 2004 I'll ask again. Knowing what you know about this, if it were someone you cared about, would you advocate charging them with murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #49 August 3, 2004 Shock/provocation/temporary insanity are questions of fact and are therefore matters for the Jury to consider. Their applicability is a question of law for the judge to consider. The prosecutor is under a duty to charge the crime before any defences/mitigating circumstances/legal points and allow the judge and jury to make those decisions where appropriate. What if the prosecutor charged only manslaughter and it came out at trial that there was no head injury and the woman acted out of malice? Prosecutors are not Judge Dread. They are not there to make calls on questions of fact but merely to put things before juries. It is the jury that decides questions of fact and the judge that decides questions of law – never the prosecution and that’s the way it ought to be. To answer your question: if it’s my mum and she did the second scenario – she needs to be charged and the law upheld. That would suck, but so would what she had done. The law applies to all equally, not just to those people I don’t know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikkey 0 #50 August 3, 2004 QuoteSplit open your skull and let me know. Tell you what, slam your self in the face with a tire iron a few times and then complete a book of logic puzzles. Post the results. You are assuming things. Have you seen pics of her? Have you seen the TV interview? She had stitches in her face and some colouring around the eyes. No "split open skull". Are you basing your posts on one tabloid article? Relax man.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 2 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
PhillyKev 0 #39 August 3, 2004 QuoteThe women (who had a cracked skull and brain damage due to his attack on her) walked up to the car he was in the process of starting Do you think maybe she might have legitimately believed he was still a threat because she was in shock and had brain damage as a direct result of his actions? If he actually was attempting to flee, it's not good that she shot him. But was she capable of making that determination or did she think she was still fighting for her life? How can you honestly say that you think she deserves to be charged with murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #40 August 3, 2004 QuoteWell, it should be noted by all that my title/subject line is incorrect. She is not charged with murder. (that's what I get for trusting a newpaper article) Update: She has been charged now, has now met police and been interviewed. Is free and scheduled to appear for initial hearing in court in about a month time.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #41 August 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe women (who had a cracked skull and brain damage due to his attack on her) walked up to the car he was in the process of starting Do you think maybe she might have legitimately believed he was still a threat because she was in shock and had brain damage as a direct result of his actions? If he actually was attempting to flee, it's not good that she shot him. But was she capable of making that determination or did she think she was still fighting for her life? How can you honestly say that you think she deserves to be charged with murder? I saw some of her TV interview and she did not look that badly injured. The brain damage thing could be spin from her defence. There is footage from the crime scene (TV news crew so probably an hour after the event) where she is walking calmly around the crime scene with a towl wrapped around the head. So don't know how serious her injuries really are. This is what the justice system is here for. Investigate, determine the facts and then get it judged by the justice system. The facts will then be clear. Don't jump to conclusions based on media reports. However, based on the initial "facts" the police has no choice then to charge her with murder in our legal system. If she a) gets convicted and b) which penalty - that will depend on a number of things.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #42 August 3, 2004 What part of fractured skull, eye socket, nose, and hand, makes you wonder how badly she was injured? I have to tell you that your attitude sickens me. What if this woman were your sister, or your wife, or your mother? Would you still advocate charging her with murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #43 August 3, 2004 QuoteWhat if this woman were your sister, or your wife, or your mother? Would you still advocate charging her with murder? Kinda depends on whether or not she'd murdered someone. Put your hand up if you know ALL of the facts of this case? Now put your hand up if you feel qualified to make a call on whether or not this woman should be convicted of Murder? My hand aint up, and I have several certificates that say I am qualified to make such determinations... but then I don't have ALL of the facts. So far I've heard the story change from one side of the equation to the other. First my minds eye sees her lying on the ground struggling with an armed assailant when her gun goes off. Next I see her calmly walk up to a guy in a truck who is in the process of escaping, aim at his head and blow his brains out. I don't know which is true, I suspect somewhere in the middle, but then - I was not there. Thus I don’t have all of the facts. Even people who were there do not have all the facts. That’s why we have courts – they collate all of the facts and sift through them. While you are all shouting at each other remember that you - the public - rarely hear the full story, and what you do hear is always heavily biased towards one side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #44 August 3, 2004 I understand your reasons and i agree. A man beating a woman up is disgusting. However, she was a security guard (knew the risks) and had a gun (big responsability). It seems for the media that when it happened, she went towards the robber and shot him in the head. I am sure she must has been confused as hell, but if someone fears his/her life, wouldn´t move away from the attacker? This is a valid question and it is undeniable the fact that he died. If we add the she may not be fully cooperating with the police, i see perfectly normal that she gets charged with murder. A different issue is wether she should be condemned, i think not, but IMO it is necesary to find out exactly what happened even if it is only to clear her name and confidently giving her gun license back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #45 August 3, 2004 My point is that even if it were your second scenario of calmly walking up to the car. She was in SHOCK and had a fractured skull. No matter how you slice it, that is a mitigating circumstance. If her head wasn't cracked open you might have a point. But that single fact alone is enough to absolve her of any guilt. Charging someone with murder is not a benign action designed to discover the truth. It is an attempt to punish someone that you feels deserves it. Maybe she won't be found guilty, but should she be put in that jeopardy in the first place? Your opinion that she should be charged with murder is not a neutral stance. I'll ask again. Knowing what you know about this, if it were someone you cared about, would you advocate charging them with murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #46 August 3, 2004 Interesting how much you know about the case. Seems you have all the facts. I do not know the exact nature of her injuries. I have seen her give a TV interview within 48 hours of the shooting and she had some facial injuries but did however not "look" like it was as bad as you describe. If she had a fractured skull she probably would be in hospital. I leave it to the proper authorities to establish the facts. If she walked up and shot the guys head off after the fact, then there is no choice then to charge her with murder. If she is convicted depends on what the investigation shows. The interesting side of the story is when does self-defence end and revenge killing start. Seems you need to take a cold shower instead making comments about my "attitude".--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #47 August 3, 2004 QuoteI understand your reasons and i agree. A man beating a woman up is disgusting. You don't understand my reasons at all. Because that statement has nothing to do with it. QuoteI am sure she must has been confused as hell, but if someone fears his/her life, wouldn´t move away from the attacker? Split open your skull and let me know. Tell you what, slam your self in the face with a tire iron a few times and then complete a book of logic puzzles. Post the results. QuoteThis is a valid question and it is undeniable the fact that he died. It is a valid question for someone who hasn't just had their head cracked open. That matter is fact. There is only one undeniable, undefensible action in this story that led to this man's death, and that was his choice to attack this woman. QuoteIf we add the she may not be fully cooperating with the police, i see perfectly normal that she gets charged with murder. I guess they don't have a right to remain silent over there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #48 August 3, 2004 I'll ask again. Knowing what you know about this, if it were someone you cared about, would you advocate charging them with murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #49 August 3, 2004 Shock/provocation/temporary insanity are questions of fact and are therefore matters for the Jury to consider. Their applicability is a question of law for the judge to consider. The prosecutor is under a duty to charge the crime before any defences/mitigating circumstances/legal points and allow the judge and jury to make those decisions where appropriate. What if the prosecutor charged only manslaughter and it came out at trial that there was no head injury and the woman acted out of malice? Prosecutors are not Judge Dread. They are not there to make calls on questions of fact but merely to put things before juries. It is the jury that decides questions of fact and the judge that decides questions of law – never the prosecution and that’s the way it ought to be. To answer your question: if it’s my mum and she did the second scenario – she needs to be charged and the law upheld. That would suck, but so would what she had done. The law applies to all equally, not just to those people I don’t know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #50 August 3, 2004 QuoteSplit open your skull and let me know. Tell you what, slam your self in the face with a tire iron a few times and then complete a book of logic puzzles. Post the results. You are assuming things. Have you seen pics of her? Have you seen the TV interview? She had stitches in her face and some colouring around the eyes. No "split open skull". Are you basing your posts on one tabloid article? Relax man.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
