tunaplanet 0 #1 July 20, 2004 Clicky Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 July 20, 2004 For those unable to decipher what is so interesting about "Clicky"... WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Samuel Berger, former President Clinton's national security adviser, is under federal criminal investigation for allegedly removing classified documents and handwritten notes from a National Archives screening room during preparations for his testimony before the 9/11 commission. Link is to CNN.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #3 July 20, 2004 If true, that is...Baaaaaaaaad! This should be very interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #4 July 20, 2004 Quotethat is...Baaaaaaaaad! or it is...Conveeeeeenient! Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #5 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuotethat is...Baaaaaaaaad! or it is...Conveeeeeenient! Maybe....I don't know. We'll wait till the facts from the investigation come out. Mine wasn't meant to be a partisan comment, really. I was just thinking about how bad that would be if it was true. Whatever your political affiliation, if someone did that, he/she should be punished harshly, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotethat is...Baaaaaaaaad! or it is...Conveeeeeenient! Maybe....I don't know. We'll wait till the facts from the investigation come out. Mine wasn't meant to be a partisan comment, really. I was just thinking about how bad that would be if it was true. Whatever your political affiliation, if someone did that, he/she should be punished harshly, IMO. Convienient for whom? It sounds like you are looking to scream foul about this indiscretion. Like it is a coverup or something - please clarify. (Heh - on a side note - I tried to write classify instead of clarify - both could have worked.)I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #7 July 20, 2004 QuoteConvienient for whom? It sounds like you are looking to scream foul about this indiscretion. Like it is a coverup or something - please clarify. (Heh - on a side note - I tried to write classify instead of clarify - both could have worked.) Not speaking of a coverup. That would be even worse. That's why I said we'd have to wait for the facts to come out. I'm more referring to simply the mishandling of classified documentation by our "leaders." It's a wonder anything remains secret. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteConvienient for whom? It sounds like you are looking to scream foul about this indiscretion. Like it is a coverup or something - please clarify. (Heh - on a side note - I tried to write classify instead of clarify - both could have worked.) Not speaking of a coverup. That would be even worse. That's why I said we'd have to wait for the facts to come out. I'm more referring to simply the mishandling of classified documentation by our "leaders." It's a wonder anything remains secret. Actually my reply was to FFBella. You just had the same stuff in yours. I was just wondering what "Convienient" meant to her.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 July 20, 2004 QuoteI'm more referring to simply the mishandling of classified documentation by our "leaders." Saw a show about the nuclear football. And how many times the guy carrying it who is supposed to be with the pres 24x7 has been left behind by motorcades or the pres misplacing their coded cards to decipher it. By several different presidents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'm more referring to simply the mishandling of classified documentation by our "leaders." Saw a show about the nuclear football. And how many times the guy carrying it who is supposed to be with the pres 24x7 has been left behind by motorcades or the pres misplacing their coded cards to decipher it. By several different presidents. Heh - y'all are funny. He ADMITTED to having the papers in hi SOCKS and they recovered some. but not until he said that (paraphrased) the papers got mixed up wioth those that were in my pockets. To what T Dashel said, "So. . . He made a mistake. Why are we just hearing about it now?" ( Ummm - switching the issue there Tommy Boy? ) Then he admitted to having stuffed his socks with classsified government documents What are you going to say now Tom? Also - These are documents that wre to be used by the Vice President, IN THE 9-11 HEARINGS! So- please - explain to me why he would take them in his socks? Was he just trying to cover up what the previous administrationj did about terrorist - or were they hiding the truth form this administration so that we could look like the bad guys?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 July 20, 2004 QuoteThen he admitted to having stuffed his socks with classsified government documents Where did that come from? I just read 4 articles on the subject and none of them said anything about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #12 July 20, 2004 QuoteWhere did that come from? I just read 4 articles on the subject and none of them said anything about that. Welcome to the present. Glad you could make it. I've read it on several websites and heard it on CNN and CBS. He stuffed them down his pants and in his socks. Uh oh. I cringe at the media labeling this, "Trouser Gate." Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 July 20, 2004 Let's see a link. I see where an "unnamed official" made that claim, but not where he admitted to doing that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 July 20, 2004 Real time CNN doesn't get linked easily.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #15 July 20, 2004 I'm looking at a CNN article from 38 minutes ago. Says unnamed officials made the accusation. Nothing about Berger admitting to anything like that. Sure you didn't misread it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #16 July 20, 2004 QuoteSays unnamed officials made the accusation. I'm starting a fund to get you thicker glasses. LOOK HERE PHILLY KEV!!!!!!!!!!!!! In case that is overlooked I'll quote something from the article. Law enforcement sources said archive staff told FBI agents they saw Berger placing items in his jacket and pants, and one archive staffer told agents that Berger also placed something in his socks. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #17 July 20, 2004 Quote"Trouser Gate." Well if the Republicans can have "Watergate" on their hands, why can't the Democrates have "TrouserGate". That's actually kind of funny. Those dirty rotten "Girlie Man Trouser Gate Democrates". Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #18 July 20, 2004 Bwaahahahahaha Steve I can see you saying that in the most wicked of Russian accents.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 July 20, 2004 Just as long as you all understand that while I have an immense dislike for GWB, historically I've always like to make fun of those "Girlie Man Trouser Gate Democrates". (said in whatever Russian accent I can come up with). Honestly I need to get my mind off of politics and back onto jumping from aircraft and from fixed objects. All this politcal mumbo-jumbo is not good for controlling my blood pressure. Make it stop ... tell me to get lost ... or to get a life. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #20 July 20, 2004 You didn't finish. The very next paragraphs: That latter allegation drew sharp responses from two of Berger's associates. "That is absurd," said Joe Lockhart, President Clinton's former press secretary, who is advising Berger. "And anyone who says that is interested in something other than the truth." Former White House lawyer Lanny Davis challenged any unnamed official who makes such an accusation to come forward publicly. "I suggest that person is lying," he said. "And if that person has the guts, let's see who it is who made the comment that Sandy Berger stuffed something into his socks." Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #21 July 20, 2004 You're right. I didn't quote the next paragraph(s). What would the point of that be? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #22 July 20, 2004 You ever notice how "Unnamed Official" seems to equate to Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #23 July 21, 2004 You ever notice how "Unnamed Official" seems to equate to Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? *** Heh. Only they weren't "unnamed officials" like he mistakenly quoted. They were archive staff. Big difference. Honestly, half the time these liberal nutjobs don't even know why they're defending a topic. They just know they're suppoded to. Sad. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 July 21, 2004 One of the odd things about this story is he only took copies, not original documents. It's not as if he stole documents to prevent anyone from reading them. I can't figure out what his motivation was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #25 July 21, 2004 QuoteOne of the odd things about this story is he only took copies, not original documents. It's not as if he stole documents to prevent anyone from reading them. I can't figure out what his motivation was. At this point I am assuming nothing. It is an interesting story though and I think it deserves to be watched. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
