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Who WAS the Worst President ever?

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Sadam Hussein would be a better choice.



Wendy looks into thread, sees a big stinky turd bomb in there.

Nope. Time to leave before the explosion.:S

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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[3. Kept the country out of silly, ridiculous conflicts like the Bush conflict in Iraq


What about Somalia, former yugoslavia, and the actual bombings in Iraq? Where those silly, ridiculous conflicts too?
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Clinton is going to win this one hands down...and rightfully so.




I don't know...

I personally don't give a shit about who he was sleeping with. He did an Ok job running the country. I say 'ok' because there isn't really a way to make everyone happy. There will always be people who disagree and people who agree with what is being done by the president. (One of the pluses of being a democratic society.) I certainly don't think he did any worse than the rest of em.


For the most part I agree with you. But as for an OK job......can you name three things Clinton accomplished as President? And don't tell me he balanced the budget because congress controls the purse strings.......but I will give you this one if you want. Two more?



2. Boosted the economy which flourished under the Clinton administration
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This economy was still from the Reagan tax cuts. The economy was the only economic move he made which started the down turn that the Bush tax cuts helped fix.

3. Kept the country out of silly, ridiculous conflicts like the Bush conflict in Iraq

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Maybe if he had done his job better we would not be in a war now.

And I say "Bush conflict" because it isnt my war, its his war, and you wont see my waving my flag or offering any support there, and you sure as hell wont see me support things like what happened to those prisoners.

Sexual perversion, torture, humiliation, political correctness, this is Bushs war and his mentality.

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....blown way out of proportion. I do not like this any better than you but to lay it on the Bush door step. Give me a break.

Im not saying the Democrats are perfect or even a good choice, what I am saying is that anybody, and I mean anybody, but Bush is a good choice. Sadam Hussein would be a better choice.

....if you want your taxes raised and our countries sovereignty over handed to the UN then Kerry cause he is your man......but he ain't mine.
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2. Boosted the economy which flourished under the Clinton administration

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This economy was still from the Reagan tax cuts. The economy was the only economic move he made which started the down turn that the Bush tax cuts helped fix.



Clinton also was simply in the right place at the right time during the tech boom ('94-'98). The economy took off, tax revenues increased, and hence budgets were much easier to balance. Clinton's not to blame for the bust that followed, but he doesn't actually deserve credit for the boom either...

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[3. Kept the country out of silly, ridiculous conflicts like the Bush conflict in Iraq


What about Somalia, former yugoslavia, and the actual bombings in Iraq? Where those silly, ridiculous conflicts too?



We've covered this before - Operation Restore Hope (25,000 troops to Somalia) was initiated by Bush in December, just weeks before he left office. Interesting little cowpie to dump on the incoming Administration.

I'd fault Clinton for sticking to mere bombings with Iraq.

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I'm sure some of you have seen this before but here it is again:

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941_1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950_1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965_1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al_Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 30 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home. Worst president in history? Come on!

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I have not covered that particular event with you. You seem ignoring that it was in 1993 CLINTON sent troops to Somalia. Remember Blackhawk down by any chance? It was er, mmm, 7 years before GWB's election.:|:S
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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I have not covered that particular event with you. You seem ignoring that it was in 1993 CLINTON sent troops to Somalia. Remember Blackhawk down by any chance? It was er, mmm, 7 years before GWB's election.:|:S



The Marines landed on December 9th, 1992. Clinton did not assume the Presidency until January 20th, 1993. You do remember the President Bush that preceeded him right?

I know there are many military folks here who take great issue with the way Clinton handled the affair in Somalia, and I wouldn't disagree with them. His interests and strengths were domestic. But he inherited that conflict.

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You should pay more attention to world affairs. Try reading the WSJ every day for a couple of weeks then getting back with us. SH a better choice? A slogan of the uninformed, the nicest response I can make.
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I stand corrected about it. It was GHB that send them. Clinton only screwed the policies as to what to do over there.:|
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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