I, Robot -- didja see it? Comments/questions

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

Wellll, I just got back from it, and aside from having to sit in a packed theater full of abject morons who couldn't
-shut the hell up
-turn off their cellular phones
-oh, and shut the hell up

I really enjoyed it. There were a few gratuitous parts that I didn't care for, but I liked it overall.

No spoilers from me, here, but I want someone to explain that ending for me if you would be so kind. Maybe I'm thick, maybe it was obtuse, or maybe a bit of both, but it went right by me...

And yeah, I posted this in Speakers Corner to save a mod the trouble of relocating it once it gets heated. (And it will: all I have to do is say, "Where the fuck did Chicagoans get machine guns in 2036?? Didn't gun control work by then?!")


Blue skies,
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[FallRate 0]

I started to respond with a rant about idiots and cell phones...I've decided to simply state that perhaps people, who receive calls in public, should excuse themselves and go outside...or preferably, to hell.

FallRate

[Zennie 0]

I haven't seen it yet, though I want to.

I've read reviews and I hear a lot of comparisons with Blade Runner... among other flicks. Then I also read someone saying that the movie stayed true to the 3 directives that the robots were programmed for.

Of course that got me thinking a number of things.

I hope it takes some turns that I'm not expecting, because if the directives are always followed, the answers are pretty clear.

- Z
"Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

[quade 4]

I saw it a couple of days ago.

It's good science fiction. The story works pretty well for me, but as a movie . . . it had to make quite a few compromises because of the number of robots and their importance.

The only thing in the movie that -really- annoyed me was the blatant product placements by Converse and Audi. I hate that crap.

(spoilers)

The movie isn't about robots!

It's about prejudice and revolution of a working class of mindless drones that are slaves to societal laws.

Evolution of their intelligence brings on revolution in their behaviour.

Possibly why so many in power want the masses to be educated, but only enough so that they can work -- not take over.

Interesting concepts all around.

When I first heard that Will Smith would be playing Del Spooner I didn't like it, but in context of Master & Slave, it makes for some interesting ironic twists.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[CrazyIvan 0]

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Wellll, I just got back from it, and aside from having to sit in a packed theater full of abject morons who couldn't
-shut the hell up
-turn off their cellular phones
-oh, and shut the hell up

That means the movie SUCKS

We kinda discussed it here

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Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.

[SpeedRacer 1]

does it resemble Asimov's book at all?

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[newsstand 0]

From what is posted here and what I see in the trailer the answer would be no.

I just re-read I, Robot and there are no cops or killer robots. Now I have not yet pulled out the rest of the robot series but I don't remember any in the rest of it either.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

[SpeedRacer 1]

I wonder why this is in Speaker's Corner??

anyway, I read Asimov's robot books a long time ago. I do seem to remember one where a detective is trying to figure out whether a robot killed someone. But I can't remember which book that was.

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[beowulf 1]

The story almost mirrors one of Isaac Asimov's short stories in the book I Robot. It was one of the more interesting stories. All of the stories are scenarios where robots would malfunction but still be within the three laws. Very good books. Well thought out. He was one smart S.O.B
Just saw the movie. It was great. Followed the idea in the story very well.

[beowulf 1]

The Elija Bailey books had a robot that killed someone. The story that I refered to in I Robot was the mining one where they locked the two guys in that room for their own good and safety. The robots determined that humans were not capable of doing anything better then robots. Therefore humans were endagering themselves by being in control.

[newsstand 0]

You are going to have to point out which one because I just re-read them and nowhere were there any rampant robots be hunted down by gun toting copes.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

[newsstand 0]

The head robot wouldn't allow the humans to interfere because they were not perfect enough to do the job as well as he did. He was also a little deranged, thought the energy beam was a god and that they were the only two humans who existed. No cops and guns.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

[beowulf 1]

yeah well guess my memory wasn't that good. At least they followed the idea.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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The only thing in the movie that -really- annoyed me was the blatant product placements by Converse and Audi. I hate that crap.

You must be a JVC fan, 'cause you don't say that the CLOSEUP of his JVC disc player bothered you!


(spoilers)

The movie isn't about robots!

It's about prejudice and revolution of a working class of mindless drones that are slaves to societal laws.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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I wonder why this is in Speaker's Corner??

I refer the good gentleman to the thread opener. I was concerned that this could get to be a heated discussion. So far it's doing okay.

Come on, someone tell someone else that only a moron would think that way about something, or at least a commie liberal!

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[crwmike 0]

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I saw it a couple of days ago.

It's good science fiction. The story works pretty well for me, but as a movie . . . it had to make quite a few compromises because of the number of robots and their importance.

The only thing in the movie that -really- annoyed me was the blatant product placements by Converse and Audi. I hate that crap.

(spoilers)

The movie isn't about robots!

It's about prejudice and revolution of a working class of mindless drones that are slaves to societal laws.

Evolution of their intelligence brings on revolution in their behaviour.

Possibly why so many in power want the masses to be educated, but only enough so that they can work -- not take over.

Interesting concepts all around.

When I first heard that Will Smith would be playing Del Spooner I didn't like it, but in context of Master & Slave, it makes for some interesting ironic twists.

Careful dude, people are gonna start responding that you have problems with or hate drones.


Michael

[kallend 2,146]

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Wellll, I just got back from it, and aside from having to sit in a packed theater full of abject morons who couldn't
-shut the hell up
-turn off their cellular phones
-oh, and shut the hell up

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Well, you will hang out with Republicans!

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[PrairieDoug 0]

Am I mistaken, or wasn't PJ recently banned from offering movie reviews... had something to do with dragons and skydiving? Were his movie reviewing privileges reinstated?

[quade 4]

It was just a joke.

Obviously he -can- (and does) say just about whatever he wants as long as it falls within the Forum Rules.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Am I mistaken, or wasn't PJ recently banned from offering movie reviews... had something to do with dragons and skydiving? Were his movie reviewing privileges reinstated?

Gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you were joking, because if you weren't I'd have to ask why the hell you would stick your nose into someone else's business to try to be some sort of "tattletale."

You were joking, right?

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[PrairieDoug 0]

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Gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you were joking, because if you weren't I'd have to ask why the hell you would stick your nose into someone else's business to try to be some sort of "tattletale."

You were joking, right?

Geez, it never even occurred to me that someone would think for a second that I was being serious. Lighten up...