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We need a GUN thread: What are you gonna buy when the AWB expires?

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Except in the case of Glock's 100rd magazine...THAT is a hi-cap.



Ever see the 100 round barrel mag for the M-4?

Jammed a lot, but what a rush.



Beta-C mags some cool factor if your into that but you're right about the reliability. Only if I had a 16 but then I'd get a Shrike. Its a belt fed upper for ARs and uses M249 pouches or regular mags. It drops right on an AR lower. See Ares Defense. I may get one anyway if I can dig up three grand.

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I'm also curious as to the modification of post ban weapons. I have a post ban Bushmaster "shorty", but I hate the A2 stock on it. I would like to put a collapsible or an A1 stock on it. I know theres only a 1 inch difference in the A1 and A2, but it really helps with my sight picture as I am a small person. As far as new toys go, I just want to modify what I have.



If you want a collapsable stock you'll have to change the buffer to a carbine tube and weight. A1 is the way to go. Cavarms make a stock the same length called the C1 and it comes in any color.

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Many are flat-topped for scopes, which I don't really want. I'll have some decision making to do.



The flat tops are better, you can add a handle, or any number of scopes...

Mine has a flat top with a red dot scope, and a flip up rear sight post incase the battery in the red dot dies.



I'm gonna want to be talkin' with you if the time comes when I get myself one, then. I'll need advice on how to equip it. :)
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Sorry no Norinco for you. Still banned under 922R. No Chinese parts kits or firearms can be imported.



Isn't this by executive order of the same president who gave China most-favored-nation trade status?
>:(:S

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I almost forgot, and a flame thrower for my barbeques, In winter it takes forever to cook the meat.



Flamethrowers are unregulated. Anyone can have one.B|



Are you nuts?! Say that too loud and the liberals will be ALL OVER a drive to ban them! :S The only reason they're not regulated is probably because liberal anti-weapons idiots are just so damned uninformed about the very things they fear and hate!...

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guns are bad mmmmmmkay.

seriously though, what happened to the good old fashioned fist fight? I personally feel that if you have to carry a gun to defend yourself, you are a pussy. If you have to use a gun to rob me, you are a pussy. Guns are for pussys.
How did that feel?
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Just for your info, since there is some confusion regarding the AWB and the sunset. If you live in a free state that has no ban of its own here is what is and what will happen.
Right now the AWB bans manufacture and possession of 19 named rifles and semi auto rifles if they have a detachable magazine and more than one of these 'evil' features: a folding or collapsable stock, a flash hider or a barrel threaded to accept one, a pistol grip, a bayonet mount or the abilty to mount a grenade launcher. It also bans magazines with a capacity of more than ten rounds.
These rifles and magazines are legal to possess if they were manufactured in AW config and possessed before the date of the ban.
I dont know thw all the names that were banned but AR15 and AK47 are two. I believe FNC is another.

On the morning of Sept 13th at 12:01 am they will all be legal again in the free states. Its unlikely you will see 'AR15' on a rifle because Colt owns the name and they are weenie dicks too scared to use it "I think". Otherwise those names become legal again.
You can have any rifle, with any or all features on it if you want.
All magazines and rifles marked "Law Enforcement Only" are legal to possess. The markings are irrelevant if the rifle is otherwise legal ie not NFA or dealer sample etc.
Certain weapons are covered by a different ban. 922R the "import ban" which bans many rifles not deemed for 'sporting' purpose. Thats why you cant buy a Russian AK. The receiver has to made in the USA and there is a requirement for x number of US parts in the rifle for it not to be considered "imported". This is no big deal there are many US dealers taking imported demilled parts kits and using their own receivers and US parts and building rifles. Some are very good and they are covered by the AWB as well but come Sept they are allowed all the evil features.
Chinese weapons CANNOT be imported due to an executive order signed by GB1. That is too bad because Norinco makes some great M1 and 1911 copies.
Hope that helps. I know its confusing.
I am not a lawyer take this advice like anything on the internet.B|

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guns are bad mmmmmmkay.

seriously though, what happened to the good old fashioned fist fight? I personally feel that if you have to carry a gun to defend yourself, you are a pussy. If you have to use a gun to rob me, you are a pussy. Guns are for pussys.
How did that feel?



Better to be a live pussy than a dead liberal

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guns are bad mmmmmmkay.

seriously though, what happened to the good old fashioned fist fight? I personally feel that if you have to carry a gun to defend yourself, you are a pussy. If you have to use a gun to rob me, you are a pussy. Guns are for pussys.
How did that feel?



Tell that to this womans family. If she had a gun maybe this POS would have spent a few minutes begging for HIS life.

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Conviction tossed in taped killing case
Victim taped herself pleading for her life

Wednesday, July 14, 2004 Posted: 9:26 PM EDT (0126 GMT)

TRENTON, New Jersey (AP) -- An appeals court overturned the conviction of a man in the 1996 slaying of a teacher who surreptitiously tape-recorded her pleas to the killer to spare her life.

The court on Tuesday tossed out the conviction of Michael LaSane, 25, because his mother had an affair with his lawyer. The court said the sexual relationship amounted to "unethical conduct," though it might not have represented a traditional conflict of interest.

LaSane, who is serving a life sentence, will now be allowed to withdraw his guilty plea in the killing of Kathleen Weinstein, 45, and ask for a trial.

Weinstein managed to tape 46 minutes of conversation after she was carjacked from a shopping plaza before being smothered in a wooded area.

The slaying drew national attention, becoming the basis for a 1996 episode of the NBC television drama "Law and Order."

Prosecutors have 30 days to decide whether to appeal to the state Supreme Court.

LaSane, who prosecutors said committed the crime the day before his 17th birthday, had previously asked to withdraw his guilty plea and stand trial.

A judge rejected the request in 2002, saying there was no chance a jury would find LaSane "anything but guilty."

LaSane's lawyer, Kevin E. Daniels, has acknowledged the affair but said it occurred after his client pleaded guilty and had no effect on his role as defense attorney.

The state appeals court, though, said the relationship occurred before LaSane was sentenced, and that the lawyer "failed to advise his client" of the relationship with the mother.

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Sorry no Norinco for you. Still banned under 922R. No Chinese parts kits or firearms can be imported.



Isn't this by executive order of the same president who gave China most-favored-nation trade status?
>:(:S

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GB1 signed the EO. Who gave China MFTS? I dont know.

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Really. Its the premier firearms board on the web.B|
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guns are bad mmmmmmkay.

seriously though, what happened to the good old fashioned fist fight? I personally feel that if you have to carry a gun to defend yourself, you are a pussy. If you have to use a gun to rob me, you are a pussy. Guns are for pussys.
How did that feel?



After this post I'm gonna ignore you, because I specifically asked in the thread opener to not discuss the merits of gun ownership in this thread. I thought it was a reasonable and polite request.

I personally feel that if you feel that a person who feels it necessary to carry a gun to defend himself is a pussy, you are an idiot.

Show me the best streetfighter in the world and if you put him up against some lowlife scumbag who attacks with a gun of his own, or maybe no gun but five friends, the great streetfighter is getting the shit beat out of him, or killed, depending on the whim of the lowlifes.

A person who has a gun is not prevented from using his fists. He just has the ability to match an escalation of force. To me, a person is SMART if he avails himself of the best tools possible to accomplish doing a job.

I guess I'm not as "macho" as you are. Just smarter.

Learn to spell "pussies." <-- there's your answer.
-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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actually Jeff, I have nothing against guns, I just felt like stirring it up around here. And you are right, guns are a tool.My bad for the bad spelling, I've had a few too many Coronas.
I have to say, it sure is quiet around here.
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I will definately get a couple more full capacity mags for my Glock 19C. I already have 2, but could use some more and I'll probably toss my 10 rounders.

If I lived in the countryside I'd definately get a nice rifle. I hear AR-15s are just fun as hell to shoot. But I'd doubt I'd be buying any new guns, my 19 and 26 are perfect for urban areas.

Actually, it'll be nice just to be able to have a good supply of full capacity mags. One benefit my 9mm has over higher cals is it's supposed to be able to hold more bullets.

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Nothing.

My d$%# is big enough and I am secure in myself enough so I don't feel the need to rush out and compensate.



You should do something about it sticking up out of your collar like that, though. :P

Who said anything about guns being penis substitutes? Will your big dick do anything to repel a home invasion robbery? What about women who buy guns to protect themselves against rapists and robbers and abductors? Are they compensating for small clitorises?

Gimme a fuckin' break. There's always one in every crowd who, for reasons of his own insecurity, wants to imply that everyone else who owns guns does so because of insecurity.

Nice try. :S

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Nothing.

My d$%# is big enough and I am secure in myself enough so I don't feel the need to rush out and compensate.



You should do something about it sticking up out of your collar like that, though. :P

Who said anything about guns being penis substitutes? Will your big dick do anything to repel a home invasion robbery? What about women who buy guns to protect themselves against rapists and robbers and abductors? Are they compensating for small clitorises?

Gimme a fuckin' break. There's always one in every crowd who, for reasons of his own insecurity, wants to imply that everyone else who owns guns does so because of insecurity.

Nice try. :S

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A whole 11 minutes. I am impressed.

Eeeeeeeaaassssyyyy there, big fella. It's called "sarcasm" or "poking fun"...

Try it sometime, you might loosen up a bit.
"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET

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Every household should have a semi-automatic high-power rifle with several loaded magazines nearby. Every member of the household who's old enough and capable should know how to and be willing to use it when necessary. That's the way it is at my house. By the way, my gun collection does nothing to increase my d%&# size. Am I missing something? :D

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Nothing.

My d$%# is big enough and I am secure in myself enough so I don't feel the need to rush out and compensate.



You should do something about it sticking up out of your collar like that, though. :P

Who said anything about guns being penis substitutes? Will your big dick do anything to repel a home invasion robbery? What about women who buy guns to protect themselves against rapists and robbers and abductors? Are they compensating for small clitorises?

Gimme a fuckin' break. There's always one in every crowd who, for reasons of his own insecurity, wants to imply that everyone else who owns guns does so because of insecurity.

Nice try. :S

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A whole 11 minutes. I am impressed.

Eeeeeeeaaassssyyyy there, big fella. It's called "sarcasm" or "poking fun"...

Try it sometime, you might loosen up a bit.



So MrFish are you a gunowner? You sound a bit disingenuous. My apologies if I'm mistaken.

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No, dude, you came into a thread where several times it was requested that we keep it on topic and keep the anti/pro-gun debate out of it, and you made an insulting, asinine statement. Don't try to back out of it now. What you said was inappropriate. Why not start a new thread, "I believe that people who own guns do so because their penises are of inadequate size, unlike my own prodigious member"?

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No, dude, you came into a thread where several times it was requested that we keep it on topic and keep the anti/pro-gun debate out of it, and you made an insulting, asinine statement. Don't try to back out of it now. What you said was inappropriate. Why not start a new thread, "I believe that people who own guns do so because their penises are of inadequate size, unlike my own prodigious member"?



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Because, again, you are SO far off base as to my intention or mindset that your "knee jerk" reaction is almost laughable.

Oh, and burbleflyer, no need for the apology. I am actually a gunowner; a Beretta autoloader 12 G shotgun and a Glock 19.
"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET

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No, dude, you came into a thread where several times it was requested that we keep it on topic and keep the anti/pro-gun debate out of it, and you made an insulting, asinine statement. Don't try to back out of it now. What you said was inappropriate. Why not start a new thread, "I believe that people who own guns do so because their penises are of inadequate size, unlike my own prodigious member"?



As previously stated . . . unless they break the forum's rules, no one's voice is going to be kept out of -any- thread including this one.

Jeffrey -- he's entitled to his opinion and entitled to voice it.

It's the price you pay for being able to do the same.
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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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