Big-time Democrat fundraiser caught up in prostitution extortion

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Sigh. It seems Democrats and their supporters just can't stay on the straight and narrow. Maybe it's just that their values are all fucked up. Maybe it's just that they were dropped on their heads while they were babies. Either way, it's pathetic that they would ever try to claim moral high ground about anything. And this is the party that supposedly champions campaign finance reform to get the money out of politics?!

Read about the scumbag here

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According to the Federal Election Commission, Kushner has made more than $1.4 million in individual contributions through his numerous real estate entities.

The FEC fined Kushner $508,900 last month for contributing money improperly to candidates in the names of his companies, the AP reported.

Kushner contributed to the campaigns of several prominent Democrats, including Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, according to FEC records.

According to the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission, Kushner has contributed $103,150 in his home state of New Jersey.

Kushner was a top fund-raiser for New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey, a Democrat, said the governor's spokeswoman, Kathy Ellis. She had no comment on the charges.

In February 2003, Kushner withdrew as McGreevey's nominee to head the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, owners of the World Trade Center, the AP reported.

At the time, Kushner was being targeted by lawsuits that alleged he used business funds improperly for political and personal reasons, the AP said.

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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One name in response - Jack Ryan. No moral high ground in either party.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

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Wait, the Jack Ryan thing is about an extramarital affair, right?

How does that compare, politically, to improper fundraising in the hundreds of thousands of dollars? All of it going to DEMOCRAT candidates?

I mean, if you leave the marital woes in the bedroom like the Democrats screamed at us so shrilly that we should have with Clinton, the Ryan thing goes away and we STILL have this Kushner jerkoff doing illegal shenanigans with fundraising for Democrats.

So no, the Democrats have lost the moral high ground, for sure, but the Ryan thing does not lose it for the Republicans, unless you have a commensurate illegal campaign donation scheme.

Gee, I wonder if that power-mad scrunt Hillary gave back the money she shouldn't have received...

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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So no, the Democrats have lost the moral high ground, for sure,

Ufff, Thank God you still have the old good Republicans like Dick Cheney and GWB with their tortures, illegal detentions and affairs like halliburton to claim the moral high ground.

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This surprises you? LOL.

From Art Coia to Johnny Huang - the way that party is funded is just sickening.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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This surprises you? LOL.

From Art Coia to Johnny Huang - the way that party is funded is just sickening.

Wasn't Ken Lay, indicted felon, a BIG Bush contributor?



Plenty of scumbags to go around. No party has a monopoly.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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This surprises you? LOL.

From Art Coia to Johnny Huang - the way that party is funded is just sickening.

Wasn't Ken Lay, indicted felon, a BIG Bush contributor?

....and a big Clinton supporter. All the shit he did happened under Clintons watch. He is now be in court on Bush's watch.

Nice try



Plenty of scumbags to go around. No party has a monopoly.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Why, I do believe Enron and Ken Lay gave $$ to both parties, my dear Kallend. I'd actually have to look. Odd that Ken Lay is being prosecuted if he's such a Bush confidant and ally - Mr. Coia was able to get a 200+ page indictment turned into a plea bargain allowing him to keep US$250,000/year for life as a pension from the Laborer's Union.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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No it was not about an affair it was about taking his wife to sex clubs and wanting her to have sex with him in front of other people.

I am not defending the fund raising thing just pointing out, as others have said, neither major party can easily claim moral high ground if you look at the actions of individuals in the parties.

Stop trying to read to much in to what people say.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

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Why, I do believe Enron and Ken Lay gave $$ to both parties, my dear Kallend. I'd actually have to look. Odd that Ken Lay is being prosecuted if he's such a Bush confidant and ally - Mr. Coia was able to get a 200+ page indictment turned into a plea bargain allowing him to keep US$250,000/year for life as a pension from the Laborer's Union.

"Plenty of scumbags to go around, no party has a monopoly."

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Newt Gingrich also blasted the democrats for their "lack of morality". Specifically Clinton for having an affair. Hypocrite.

Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana frequently pushed for investigations of the personal lives of democratic peers. All the while he was fathering children with his mistress.

Even Giuliani had an affair, and publicly humiliated his wife regarding it.

Then there's the really brutal morality of republicans.

Illegal arms sales to Iran

Neil Bush's S&L bail out

Dealing drugs to purchase arms for the Contras

Trading with the enemy (Libya) in violation of US sanctions.

And let's not forget about the highly moral Council of Conservative Citizens (the group I always think of when Anvil claims there are no racist republicans).

I'm sure you can find just as many examples on the left side. The point is, lack of morality knows no political boundaries and claimnig some partisan moral superiority is ludicrous and hypocritical.

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This surprises you? LOL.

From Art Coia to Johnny Huang - the way that party is funded is just sickening.

Wasn't Ken Lay, indicted felon, a BIG Bush contributor?

....and a big Clinton supporter. All the shit he did happened under Clintons watch. He is now be in court on Bush's watch.

Nice try



Plenty of scumbags to go around. No party has a monopoly.

Personal (not company) contributions to GWB's gubernatorial campaign.

Date Amount First Name Last Name
11/1/93 $5,000.00 Kenneth Lay
12/20/93 $20,000.00 Kenneth Lay
9/15/94 $12,500.00 Linda Lay
12/1/94 $10,000.00 Linda Lay

They also gave the Dem candidate (Richards) $12,500.

So they contributed 3x as much to Bush.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Plenty of scumbags to go around, no party has a monopoly."

No single country has that monopoly either.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

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Ufff, Thank God you still have the old good Republicans like Dick Cheney and GWB with their tortures, illegal detentions and affairs like halliburton to claim the moral high ground.

Stop trying to beat a dead drum.
Halliburton -- who else was qualified?
Illegal detentions -- you mean Guantanamo? The detentions were not illegal; it was a question of access to tribunals.
torture -- how to you stick that on W? Because he was POTUS? BTW what is torture?

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
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Halliburton -- who else was qualified?

You are right, only Haliburton can supply meals to the troops and build shitters. There is absolutely no other company in the US or the so called Coalition of the Willing that could possibly do that.

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Wait, the Jack Ryan thing is about an extramarital affair, right?

How does that compare, politically, to improper fundraising in the hundreds of thousands of dollars? All of it going to DEMOCRAT candidates?

I mean, if you leave the marital woes in the bedroom like the Democrats screamed at us so shrilly that we should have with Clinton, the Ryan thing goes away and we STILL have this Kushner jerkoff doing illegal shenanigans with fundraising for Democrats.

So no, the Democrats have lost the moral high ground, for sure, but the Ryan thing does not lose it for the Republicans, unless you have a commensurate illegal campaign donation scheme.

It all goes back to honesty, integrity, and trustworthiness. That’s why I say that there’s more to morality than just doing whatever you want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. If you cheat on your wife, you are being dishonest and deceiving and your character is flawed. If you inappropriately spend the public’s money, you are also being dishonest and deceiving and your character is flawed. C.S. Lewis described it this way. He said there are two ways in which we go wrong. One has to do with what you do as it negatively affects another person. The other is what you do that negatively affects yourself. In modern society, the focus tends to be on the first. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t hurt someone else. However, the second is more important than the first and directly affects the second. If one is flawed morally, he/she will inevitably affect others negatively. There is a third and even more important aspect to morality IMO, however, I won’t bring that up here. I say that neither political party has “the moral high ground.” I think we should focus on the individual and evaluate his/her internal qualities first.

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Halliburton -- who else was qualified?

Bechtel pops to mind....along with several others.

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Illegal detentions -- you mean Guantanamo? The detentions were not illegal; it was a question of access to tribunals.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Bush administration's policy of detaining foreign nationals without legal process at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Station is illegal. (a/k/a illegal detentions)

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torture -- how to you stick that on W? Because he was POTUS? BTW what is torture?

"WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday that he and other top officials kept President Bush "fully informed ... in general terms" about complaints made by the Red Cross and others over ill-treatment of detainees in U.S. custody. "
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.powell12may12,0,2804533.story?coll=bal-news-nation

[PhillyKev 0]

I...errrr....ummm......damn....I can't say it.....hold on....uhhhh......

well put, I agree completely.


Damn, that was like taking a big old dump.

[pajarito 0]

I feel better... I think if you're a dirt-bag, whether you're Republican, Democrat, or Independent, you should be called on it.

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"I think if you're a dirt-bag, whether you're Republican, Democrat, or Independent, you should be called on it. "

See?, we are more alike than we might care to admit sometimes.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

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And Pajarito brings unity to DZ.Com. I agree also. Morality is an individual thing. Look hard enough and you'll see scumbags know no party lines.

Now let's all join hands for a chorus of "Kumbaya."

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Chris

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I have had to drink a couple of beers to say this, but oh well, here it goes...

I agree with you

Blue skies

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Hail the great unifier, pajarito!!

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Republicans too.

Krugman: Enron collapse casts light on DeLay's tactics

By Paul Krugman
THE NEW YORK TIMES
Wednesday, July 14, 2004


From a business point of view, Enron is a smoking ruin. But there's important evidence in the rubble.

If Enron hadn't collapsed, we might still have only circumstantial evidence that energy companies artificially drove up prices during California's electricity crisis. Because of that collapse, we have direct evidence in the form of the now-infamous Enron tapes — although the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and the Justice Department tried to prevent their release.

Now, e-mail and other Enron documents are revealing why Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, is one of the most powerful men in America.

A little background: At the Republican convention, most featured speakers will be social moderates such as Rudy Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger. A moderate facade is necessary to win elections in a generally tolerant nation. But real power rests with hard-line social conservatives like DeLay, who, in the debate over gun control after the Columbine shootings, insisted that juvenile violence is the result of day care, birth control and the teaching of evolution.

Here's the puzzle: If DeLay's brand of conservatism is so unpopular that it must be kept in the closet during the convention, how can people like him really run the party?

In DeLay's case, a large part of the answer is his control over corporate cash. As far back as 1996, one analyst described DeLay as the "chief enforcer of company contributions to Republicans." Some of that cash has flowed through Americans for a Republican Majority, called Armpac, a political action committee DeLay founded in 1994. By dispensing that money to other legislators, he gains their allegiance; this, in turn, allows him to deliver favors to his corporate contributors. Four of the five Republicans on the House ethics committee, where a complaint has been filed against DeLay, are past recipients of Armpac money.

The complaint, filed by Rep. Chris Bell of Texas, claims, among other things, that DeLay laundered illegal corporate contributions for use in Texas elections. And that's where Enron enters the picture.

In May 2001, according to Monday's Washington Post, Enron lobbyists in Washington informed Ken Lay via e-mail that DeLay was seeking $100,000 in additional donations to his political action committee, with the understanding that it would be partly spent on "the redistricting effort in Texas." The Post says it has "at least a dozen" documents showing that DeLay and his associates directed money from corporate donors and lobbyists to an effort to win control of the Texas Legislature so the Republican Party could redraw the state's political districts.

Enron, which helped launch Armpac, was happy to oblige, especially because DeLay was helping the firm's effort to secure energy deregulation legislation, even as its traders boasted to one another about how they were rigging California's deregulated market and stealing millions each day from "Grandma Millie."

The Texas redistricting, like many of DeLay's actions, broke all the usual rules of political fair play. But when you believe, as DeLay does, that God is using you to promote a "biblical worldview" in politics, the usual rules don't apply. And the redistricting worked — it is a major reason why anything short of a Democratic tidal wave in November is likely to leave the House in Republican hands.

There is, however, one problem: A 100-year-old Texas law bars corporate financing of state Legislature campaigns. An inquiry is under way, and DeLay has hired two criminal defense attorneys. Stay tuned.

But you shouldn't conclude that the system is working. DeLay's current predicament is an accident. The party machine that he has done so much to create has eliminated most of the checks and balances in our government. Again and again, Republicans in Congress have closed ranks to block or emasculate politically inconvenient investigations. If Enron hadn't collapsed, and if Texas didn't still have a campaign finance law that is a relic of its populist past, DeLay would be in no danger at all.

The larger picture is this: DeLay and his fellow hard-liners, whose values are far from the American mainstream, have forged an immensely effective alliance with corporate interests. And they may be just one election away from achieving a long-term lock on power.

Rat for Life - Fly till I die
When them stupid ass bitches ask why

[pajarito 0]

uhhh....thank ya....thank ya very much!