captain1 0 #1 July 10, 2004 So when did Hollywood become an election tool? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 July 10, 2004 Film documentaries and even more main stream fair have been used for political purposes almost from the very beginning. Check out the following; Intolerance The Birth of a Nation Olympia 1. Teil - Fest der Völker Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress, Thequade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #3 July 10, 2004 Don't forget "The American President" (Michael Douglas, Anette Benning) pushing a Clintonesque, anti-gun "crime control bill." How about the "NRA-with-a-slash-through-the-logo" posters in "Lethal Weapon 4" (a movie that gee, really works hard to not glorify gun violence)? I wonder which party the evil side of the remake "The Manchurian Candidate" will be. Probably Republicans. Hollywood is Leftist, after all... Do you remember in "Lethal Weapon 2" when the HANDGUN ammunition that was being black marketed was "armor piercing," and when the good guys got a hold of it, one of them used it to kill a bad guy by shooting him through the blade of a front-end loader! Then morons who don't know they've just seen fiction go out, terrified, and hear politicians clamoring for bans on "armor-piercing bullets," think that's what they must be talking about, and "support" such a ban! And Hollywood knows exactly what it is doing when it pulls this shit... --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1 0 #4 July 10, 2004 Let me rephrase that. 'SO WHEN DID HOLLYWOOD BECOME AN ELECTION TOOL.' I remember Star Wars. I remember Raiders of the Lost Ark. I remember Forrest Gump. I don't remember people ever running to the movie theaters to bash any political party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 July 10, 2004 Dr. Strangelove comes to mind - 1964 release. It certainly pulled few punches against the Kennedy/LBJ Administration and its vaunted bomber gap from the prior election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #6 July 10, 2004 I don't know the history -- wasn't around for it -- so tell me if that was done in an obvious effort to influence a future election or just to lampoon the result of a previous one. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #7 July 10, 2004 How soon we forget... "Mainstream" Hollywood was running away from this film as if it had leprocy. In any event, I honestly don't see why folks are so afraid of this movie. Yes he presents thing in his own slanted way, but he really didn't show anything that I didn't know already. I honestly don't think this movie really will sway the election one way or another. Good example... the "My Pet Goat" incident. MM spends the better part of a half hour leading up to this moment going through all of the Bush family's financial ties to Saudi Arabia & the Bin Laden family... which again is no news to me. So then he shows GWB sitting there and wonders aloud if Bush was thinking about his "friends" and all the financial ties, and blah blah blah. Please... For starters, I don't think Dubya is smart enough to make those connections and nobody knew it was the work of Bin Laden at that very moment anyway. No, it's really quite simple... he was freaking out... a deer transfixed in the headlights. He had no clue what to do so he just sat there. So he can present all this stuff to me, but by no means was I sitting there hypnotized allowing him to brainwash me any more than I let the people on the right. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1 0 #8 July 10, 2004 Did it break box office records? Anyways, I was born in 1971. However, I do pay attention to History. Unfortunately, history repeats itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 July 12, 2004 QuoteSo when did Hollywood become an election tool? 1939, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algboy 0 #10 July 12, 2004 "No, it's really quite simple... he was freaking out... a deer transfixed in the headlights. He had no clue what to do so he just sat there." Oh, I get it. The "incompetence" defense again . . . . Isn't that what they invented the Secret Service for--to get our impotent figureheads out of "harms way" while they get their $@#& together? By the way, where WAS the SS (Secret Service)?? Did somebody KNOW that Bush was in no danger while listening to goat stories?? What happened to the "GO!!-GO!!-GO!!" crap we see in movies with the SS whisking POTUS away at the first sniff of trouble? Just like NORAD during 9/11--can you say "STAND DOWN"?“Keep your elbow up!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites