quade 4 #26 July 10, 2004 Come on bill, it goes waaaay further back than that. Didn't The RNC have at one point in time a group within it called "Dirty Tricks"? Wasn't one of their people Karl Rove? http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen1101.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #27 July 10, 2004 'Swing' voters' opinion of the Repubs suffered due to the efforts to impeach Clinton. I think you know very well that the Dems are not well served in their pursuit of the White House (pursuit of the 'swing' voter) by this sort of public, celebrity-strewn, candidate-attended (and clapping) hate-fest.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #28 July 10, 2004 QuoteRight! After the courtesy and respect shown to Clinton by the GOP during the Lewinsky scandal, democrats are shocked when republicans start using innuendo and rumor to denigrate prominent democrats. Come on Bill, it was Clinton's actions that brought that on, not the other way around. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #29 July 10, 2004 QuoteLemme ask you this, from what you can gather from the article, did they do something illegal or did they just exercise their freedom of expression? Ya know, that whole 1st Amendment thing? I mean, it's not like anyone was held at gun point and forced to watch were they? Look, never would I have said that they should be stopped or prohibited from this -- only that I have utterly no respect for them having done it. One of those, "They should have restrained themselves" type of deals. Has nothing to do with being within the bounds of the law or not. It's more of a taste and decorum issue. The Dems have proved that they utterly lack decorum. I really doubt that the Republicans have had or are planning to have such a sick, degenerate hate-fest as this, complete with puffed-up, self-important hollywood schmucks the likes of Whoopsie Goldbern, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Rob Reiner and Sean Penn. (These people may or may not have been there, but they're the core of the group I think of when I think of self-important hollywood types who think the public should give a shit which politicians and policies they support.) --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #30 July 10, 2004 Well, I'm thinkin' that at least one self-important Hollywood types is going to be a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention -- Arnold. True, he's probably not going to be making too many crude comments, but then again, he probably knows the event is going to be televised (unlike the celebs that spoke at the DNC fund raiser the other night). My further guess is that Charlton "cold dead hand" Heston will also be there, but I don't know if he's on the schedule to speak. Hmmm, lemme think who else would be there . . . not Sonny Bono (dead) and what's his name from The Love Boat -- Gopher? Oh and my guess is that Fred Thompson will also show up -- of course, that's just a guess. Not -all- of the entertainment industry are members of the Democratic Party. Lemme see . . . Rupert Murdock . . . he'll probably be there. Probably has the best camera position on the camera riser too. Michael Eisner . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #31 July 10, 2004 The real hypocrisy of this all is the fact that Kerry is claiming to be a "practising Catholic". No practising Catholic would condone that circus. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #32 July 10, 2004 Weak response. No comparison.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #33 July 10, 2004 Take a fucking valium, or three and call back in the morning. This Speaker's Corner Forum is a good idea, it's such a drag that you can just avoid the whole thing altogether. Think I will. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #34 July 10, 2004 You nailed it with this dude. I'm taking a sip of Herradura Reposado in your honor. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #35 July 10, 2004 QuoteTake a fucking valium, or three and call back in the morning. This Speaker's Corner Forum is a good idea, it's such a drag that you can just avoid the whole thing altogether. Think I will. Woohooo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #36 July 10, 2004 I certainly hope that these modern day "moviestars" and comedians (washed up comedians I might add) keep this kind of talk going. I'm sure that it will help the candidates out in a most beneficial way, the republican candidates that is Some of you guys/girls on both sides of this issue need to lighten up, quit being so mean to one another Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #37 July 10, 2004 Bill, It's no longer an isolated form of behavior in the Reps, it's now institutionalized. It goes back further than Clinton in my mind, to Rep Party Chairman Lee Atwater. He was the one who basically decided that the Reps were going to fight dirty like their opposition always did. It won them the 1988 election, but ultimately cost them in terms of respect lost. So disputes like this are nothing new, but people used to show some restraint. Not anymore. Time Magazine has an interesting metric for this - a "degree of opposition", where the amount or percentage of difference of opinion on candidates or issues is gauged (please see last week's issue - the one with Thomas Jefferson on the cover). According to Time, the amount and ferocity of the dichotomy of viewpoints is at an all-time high - the polarity of viewpoints has never been more extreme; id est, there is very little common ground. Which is why I predict there will be riots at the conventions this year. The political opposition is going to be at a fever-pitch this Summer. It will be interesting to watch the show. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #38 July 10, 2004 QuoteThis Speaker's Corner Forum is a good idea, it's such a drag that you can just avoid the whole thing altogether. Think I will. Somebody called it "Liberal " one time that made me laugh out loud. Anybody remember what it was?"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #39 July 10, 2004 Sorry to interject, just wanted to get something down in writing before the conventions... I'm betting if there are any riots outside of either convention, it'll be left and far left rioting outside the Republican convention, not vice versa. Of course, it could get ugly since there will be TONS of security... ... we'll see though.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #40 July 10, 2004 Quote>This just shows how disgustingly juvenile, immature, irresponsible and >hypocritical the democrats have become. I hear they even call people names! bwahahahahaha. something tells me that if some of the people who were so disgusted and scandelized by this bush-bashing were put into a room together, and asked their opinion of kerry, we'd have the same name-calling and bashing going on. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #41 July 10, 2004 QuoteQuotethe Democrats are cheap, punk-ass shitwad hypocrites, LOVING to HATE someone as they do. Talk about JUVENILE. Funny, when I read your comment above, "Juvenile" was the first thought in my mind as well. Grouping people together (giving all a bad name) for the actions of a few is certainly not what i'd call "mature". I might have be offended by your calling me a "cheap, punk-ass shitwad hypocrite" if I hadn't already lost so much respect for your opinion by reading other unnecessarily judgemental posts of yours. Later. Angela. This post got a 'fair warning' from Bill??????? You said you read what he has written and do not respect him for it. BFD. Good post, Andrea. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #42 July 10, 2004 I was okay with it. She can feel whatever she wants to feel about me. She can say whatever she wants to say (within reason). It wasn't like I complained or something. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a better-than-average post or anything, though. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #43 July 11, 2004 Quotesomething tells me that if some of the people who were so disgusted and scandelized by this bush-bashing were put into a room together, and asked their opinion of kerry, we'd have the same name-calling and bashing going on. Even if I accept your assertion, I don't think Bush (had he been in attendance) would have applauded and laughed big time. I think he might likely have put a stop to it. I also think there would be a furor on the broadcast news about the terrible scandal/whatever and an expectation of an apology to the nation. Dan Blather would be quite emotional in his disgust, I think.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #44 July 11, 2004 Peacefuljeffrey...I'm just curious how you came about choosing that screen name for yourself. Whenever I read a post like this of yours, it makes me think that you're not very peaceful at all. In fact, you seem to be full of a lot of anger at many things. What's up with that? Was it reverse psychology? Am I just missing getting the joke?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #45 July 11, 2004 QuotePeacefuljeffrey...I'm just curious how you came about choosing that screen name for yourself. Whenever I read a post like this of yours, it makes me think that you're not very peaceful at all. In fact, you seem to be full of a lot of anger at many things. What's up with that? Was it reverse psychology? Am I just missing getting the joke? I don't think that any human being is completely at peace. That said, here's the back story. I love peace. I think peace is the most wonderful concept in creation -- better even than love, because it has the potential to contain love. My mother gave me a bookmark once that had the derivation of the name "Jeffrey": from Old French, meaning Heavenly Peace; Blessed One. I liked it, so I use it. I strive to be at peace. But just like you can be going through your day and realize, suddenly, that your shoulders are bunched and tense and you don't even know how long they've been like that, so do I try to be relaxed and peaceful during my days and nights but sometimes find that I've tensed up. I am not a belligerent person. I am not a violent person. I am given to strong emotion and strong convictions about issues. This is what happens to come across vehemently when I post, in many cases. But just like the fact that I'm a gun and knife owner and enthusiast does not mean I'm a dangerous or violent person, neither does the fact that my posts can be argumentative, emphatic, sarcastic, etc. mean that I'm not also a peaceful person, or that I don't at least try consciously to be. Is that enough of an explanation, or do you want to PM? Blue skies, --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #46 July 11, 2004 QuoteI was okay with it. She can feel whatever she wants to feel about me. She can say whatever she wants to say (within reason). It wasn't like I complained or something. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a better-than-average post or anything, though. - I guess reading my post implied that I agreed with her and was congratulating her on her splendid character judgment ;). This was not the case, brother. By a 'good post', I meant that she simply stated that she had read your posts and that she did not respect your judment based on the content. I don't see a damn thing wrong with that. Michael "Bill, strange things are afoot at the Circle K" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #47 July 12, 2004 >Come on Bill, it was Clinton's actions that brought that on, not the >other way around. If that is an adequate excuse for horrendously poor behavior, Bush's record on grossly exaggerating the case for war, a war that killed over ten thousand innocent people over the past two years (and over a thousand coalition troops) is surely as valid an excuse. However, I still think it's sad that either party descends to such depths. It does our country no service to attack either president in such a way, and devalues all the good things both parties have done over the years. There's no problem with disagreeing with any political figure; that's the nature of democracy. There is, however, a huge difference in disagreeing with someone and saying "you're a cheap thug" or "go fuck yourself." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #48 July 12, 2004 QuoteIs that enough of an explanation, or do you want to PM? We'll just read your back posts and decide. Actions speak louder than words. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #49 July 12, 2004 wow. you seem so angry. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #50 July 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteI was okay with it. She can feel whatever she wants to feel about me. She can say whatever she wants to say (within reason). It wasn't like I complained or something. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a better-than-average post or anything, though. - I guess reading my post implied that I agreed with her and was congratulating her on her splendid character judgment ;). This was not the case, brother. By a 'good post', I meant that she simply stated that she had read your posts and that she did not respect your judment based on the content. I don't see a damn thing wrong with that. Michael Quote Actually, I did find her post to be well-written and articulate. At the very least, she punctuates well. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
