Deuce 1 #1 July 8, 2004 WTF were they thinking? Look, I appreciate the unique bloodsport aspect of American campaigning, but this premeditated comment was astoundingly stupid. The attack on Edwards hasn't even started to get rolling and they serve this up on a platter? I predict a poster/ad will be forthcoming somewhere down the road once the GOP has pinned some poll-approved weakness in Edward's gravitas which features him agains the backdrop of the polling group weakness with the quote from this past weekend, "Maybe I don't know (polling approved weakness) but I have better hair than the Vice President!" Oy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 July 8, 2004 It reminds me of Fahrenheit 451 (yeah, the one by Ray Bradbury and not that new "documentary" by MM). There was scene in the book where the women were discussing who they would vote for in the presidential election. One of them quipped that she was voting for one candidate because he was better looking. Pass the Tylenol... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 July 8, 2004 This is what we call "self-depricating humor". They were trying to make a joke, with themselves as the victim, about the attention that some people have placed on their hair. It's not meant to be taken seriously.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #4 July 8, 2004 Noooooo! Say it isn't so! - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 July 8, 2004 QuoteThis is what we call "self-depricating humor". They were trying to make a joke, with themselves as the victim, about the attention that some people have placed on their hair. It's not meant to be taken seriously. Correct. The real shit will hit the fan when Edwards' campaign donors methods are revealed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #6 July 8, 2004 I disagree completely. This is the type of humor that Shakespeare described as "a truth hidden in a jest". Both Kerry and Edwards, and the Kerry campaign, see connections to the JFK administration/campaign. Again, I am not interested in their politics, just the campaign strategy. That first televised debate between Nixon and Kennedy cemented the of being "better looking on TV" . I have no doubts the K/E will exploit this, but the vanity of saying "We're prettier" is going to backfire. They are MUCH more telegenic than Bush/Cheney, but saying so out loud is violating the first rule of a beauty contest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #7 July 8, 2004 I'm 90% sure that was intended as a joke. Sure was odd to hear, tho... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 July 8, 2004 QuoteI'm 90% sure that was intended as a joke. Sure was odd to hear, tho... _Am Not when you consider the source.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #9 July 8, 2004 Quote I'm 90% sure that was intended as a joke. Sure was odd to hear, tho... I'm not disagreeing with that. I think Quade was right when he said it was intended as a joke. I just think it was a grave error coming from the instant GOP argument (Kerry said stuff like this too, in the primary) that Edwards is inexperienced, but very pretty. I think it is the kind of joke like: "Hey, Fatty!" "Oh, come-on, I'm just kidding!" "Hey Pizza face!" "Oh, come-on, I'm just kidding!" "At least I'm not bald!" "Oh, come-on, I'm just kidding!" I really do think that political campaigns think they understand people just because they belong to a club. There's a tendency that Republicans tend to think they know business better, and Democrats think they understand race better, just by registering. "Of course I understant (subject) I'm a registered (party member). I think our population has changed more than the fogies who are running the campaigns vaguely know. Politics runs on gift money, from whoever. Any body who gets that much neato stuff for just being a great guy starts to believe their own press. It's going to be very interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #10 July 8, 2004 I have no doubt that Kerry will come to regret the comment. Either because he actually thinks it matters, or the other side will throw the comment back at him, in a Howard Dean (EeeeeeeeeAaaaaaaaGggggggHhhhhhhhhh!) kinda way! _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 July 9, 2004 Quote Noooooo! Say it isn't so! - Jim O.K. It ain't so QuoteSTERLING, Ill., July 8 /PRNewswire/ -- May the best candidate win, but when it comes to the best presidential hair, George W. Bush has America's vote, according to Wahl Clipper Corporation's 2004 Grooming Survey and First Ever "Index" on men's grooming habits. Despite John Kerry's recent claim that the Kerry-Edwards ticket has the best hair, Wahl's survey found that the majority of Americans overwhelmingly voted for Bush's hair over Kerry's (Bush -- 51 percent; Kerry -- 30 percent; neither -- 10 percent; don't know -- 9 percent.) "Wahl isn't choosing sides politically, but when it comes to what we know best -- hair -- we're interested in what Americans think is a fitting hairstyle for their president," said Pat Anello, Director of Marketing for Wahl Clipper. "Whether you're running for president or running a busy schedule, Wahl has innovative, quality products that make grooming easy." The truth behind these and other hairy facts have been tabulated to form Wahl's first annual Grooming Index, designed to benchmark the grooming behavior and habits of American men (age 18 and over). The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, is based on telephone surveys of 1,009 adults, 18 and over (including 512 men) conducted between May 6-9, 2004 with a margin of error among all adults plus or minus three (3) percent (and a margin of error plus or minus four percent among men). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #12 July 9, 2004 Heres a pic of that winning hair, enjoy. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 July 9, 2004 QuoteHeres a pic of that winning hair, enjoy. blues jerry "The image cannot be displayed because it contains errors" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 July 9, 2004 Quote STERLING, Ill., July 8 /PRNewswire/ -- May the best candidate win, but when it comes to the best presidential hair, George W. Bush has America's vote, according to Wahl Clipper Corporation's 2004 Grooming Survey and First Ever "Index" on men's grooming habits. Gross . . . Oh wait, I used to be in the PR business. Here's how it works (at least at the Disney Company). A guy, some marketing weasle, is in charge of what is called "Publicity". Among other things, his department takes things that happen, inside and outside of the Company and tries to connect them so they have a "news hook". If nothing inside the Company actually exists -- he makes one up. Then, with the hook fully baited, somebody on the staff writes a press release and distributes it. PRNewswire is a company that takes press releases from LOTS of different companies and mashes them all together in a daily feed of press releases to newspapers, radio and television stations. Some newspapers, radio and television stations are so, um, desperate to have stuff to publish (Really! They have inches to fill and real reporting is expensive!) they take the press releases and just run them. PRNewswire also has a daily satellite feed for video news releases. Same idea -- just with video. This is how a huge portion of publicity works and believe it or not -- it -does- work. Don't believe me? Heh, heh . . . that's the idea . . . you're not supposed to know. Now, go back with that knowledge and re-read the article. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #15 July 9, 2004 Of course it's a promotional move to make news. That was pretty obvious considering the timing. How does Opinion Research Corp. fit into the picture? They seem to be legitimate based on their website. (I know, I know, but they state they have been in business since 1938). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 July 9, 2004 I don't think the polling company makes a difference either way. Wahl could/should/would have (I assume) ran with the story either way. It doesn't really matter who thinks who has the better hair as long as they have something to hang the story on. Think about it -- for them it's a win-win either way so why not? I could tell you about a lot of things the Disney Company has hung storys on -- again, it really doesn't matter as long as it "works". Lemme see . . a really stupid example . . . How about "Lucky the Hero Dog"? An assitance animal (blind/deaf? I don't remember) that called 911 during some emergency and saved his master. We brought the dog to Disneyland (what are you going to do next?) and hooked up one of the Park's participant companies, Alpo. We made a huge (6 foot) tall congratulations "cake" out of Alpo dog food and had the dog pose with Goofy and Pluto. Hardly cost anything and got both Disneyland and Alpo some "free" press.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #17 July 9, 2004 QuoteIt's not meant to be taken seriously. Kind of like when Bush said he was the master of low expectations. Didn't stop the liberal sheep from jumping on that one though, did it? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 July 9, 2004 Really fucking stupid comment...But what do you expect from Kerry? It's clear he plans on running on APPERANCE only."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #19 July 9, 2004 Perhaps Kerry/Edwards think all the bald people will vote for them. I still say Kerry has as much Charisma as well burnt toast. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 July 9, 2004 I understand what you are saying. What I don't quite understand is the role of Opinion Research Corp. Are they actually doing research, which they claim they are or do they actually poll with a slanted question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #21 July 9, 2004 Oh, I have no doubt that they're a real polling company that has no interest in the outcome either way. As long as they get their check from Wahl for doing the poll -- why should they care? For them it's also a win-win no matter what the outcome.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites