Cajun 0 #26 July 8, 2004 Quoterespect...yes. devotion??? that's a little overkill. He's the president, not God. I was going to say he's our president, not our king. But you beat me too it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 July 8, 2004 Well, I'm not sure our country would even exist if we had devotion to the King.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 July 8, 2004 I think that when a majority of people (well in this case a minority of people) elect some one president, he should be followed blindly. He should never be questioned and should be defended in every form possible. It makes me all warm and tingly inside to see so many people agree with me and do just that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #29 July 8, 2004 >the president immediately responded, "Dick Cheney can be president. Next?" From AFP: -------------------------- Kerry said Bush was right on one thing about Cheney. "He was right that Dick Cheney was ready to take over on day one, and he did and he has been ever since, and that's what we've got to change." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 July 8, 2004 Quote>the president immediately responded, "Dick Cheney can be president. Next?" From AFP: -------------------------- Kerry said Bush was right on one thing about Cheney. "He was right that Dick Cheney was ready to take over on day one, and he did and he has been ever since, and that's what we've got to change." Oh please- Cheney's policies only flatter Bush's, they enhance and back them up. I don't agree with Bush's and Cheney's every move or policy - but think - Just THINK for a minute! How bad do you want this country to be? The presidential candidate, Kerry, cannot even make up his mind on what he believes. HOW can you in good concience vote for someone that has no personal belief system that he would defend? HOW could you in your right mind vote for someone that has no understanding of even WHY he believes what he believes, at this moment in time. A leader has convictions, be they right or wrong, but convictions none the less. Kerry is no leader. He is a follower. He follows the will of the highest bidder. He follows the will blindly of a party that is frustrated and confused. He follows what others consider is right and thinks not for himself. Kerry, not Bush, is the puppet.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #31 July 9, 2004 >Just THINK for a minute! How bad do you want this country to be? Oh, all us liberals want to destroy the US. Haven't you been reading Gravitymaster et al? >The presidential candidate, Kerry, cannot even make up his mind on >what he believes. Right. If you asked him whether a photon is a particle or a wave, he'd probably say both, the waffler! >HOW can you in good concience vote for someone that has no personal >belief system that he would defend? Because Bush's strong belief system, a system that includes a belief that God wants him to be president and bring the US brand of liberty to the world, is worse. >A leader has convictions, be they right or wrong, but convictions none the less. Ayatollahs have strong religious convictions that they use to determine their decisions. I believe presidents should not make decisions the same way. >Kerry is no leader. He is a follower. I agree. He's like Clinton in that he will follow the perceived will of the public more than he will follow his own convictions. If he was running against Powell or Giuliani he wouldn't stand a chance. Heck, if Powell was running for president I'd vote for him over Kerry in a second. Unfortunately that is not the case. And thus the decision is between a follower of public opinion and a leader who I believe is immune to any views outside his own strongly-held religious beliefs, one who believes that what God wants him to do supersedes any mere secular considerations like our constitution, our security or our relationships with other countries. Such a president is far more likely to make mistakes that will jeopardize the very existence of this country than someone who follows public opinion. We are living in a dangerous time. The path we should take is one where the world either can live with us or is happy to leave us alone. We are starting along a path where the best we can hope is that most of the world fears us more than they hate us, and that is not a world I want my children to live in. (Obligatory warning for the more humorless reading this post - the first two lines of this post were jokes.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #32 July 9, 2004 QuoteWe are living in a dangerous time. The path we should take is one where the world either can live with us or is happy to leave us alone. For most of the world this is true. For those that declared a religious war against civilization, they will never choose to live in peace with us. It is a real war, and it will not be over soon.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #33 July 9, 2004 >For those that declared a religious war against civilization, they will never >choose to live in peace with us. We are technically still at war with North Korea. Yet we are learning to live with them; we even ended the war before either side was destroyed. The USSR said "we will bury you." We learned to live with the russians without killing them. Cuba threatened to destroy us. We learned to live an uneasy truce with them. We will face the same challenges in the future with China. Let's hope the outcome is more like our experience with the USSR than with Al Qaeda - because China has a lot more than a few airplanes to fire off at us. I think that having a mission from God to "bring liberty to the world" will not lead us away from a military 'final solution' to the looming conflict with China. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 July 9, 2004 Quote The USSR said "we will bury you." We learned to live with the russians without killing them. To be fair . . . that was idiom meaning "we will outlast you" -- they didn't.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #35 July 9, 2004 QuoteQuote The USSR said "we will bury you." We learned to live with the russians without killing them. To be fair . . . that was idiom meaning "we will outlast you" -- they didn't. Defending the ruskies now, eh? Guess you liberals are all communists Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 July 9, 2004 QuoteOh, all us liberals want to destroy the US. Haven't you been reading Gravitymaster et al? And you believe UFOs are destroying us by kidnapping people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #37 July 9, 2004 >And you believe UFOs are destroying us by kidnapping people. Riiiight. Now where did I leave my tinfoil hat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #38 July 9, 2004 Odd comparison you've made. Cold War conflicts with the current war we're in today. I don't really see the parallels you're making. One of the first articles in this month's issue of Foreign Affairs deals with the rising power in Asia - China in particular. Good, but short read.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #39 July 9, 2004 Will Edwards as vp cause a change in Kerry's strategy? The foundation of his "creating 10 million jobs" was that he would have Clinton as vp and there would be 10 million new jobs for comedians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
