Kennedy 0 #1 July 7, 2004 I'm sure this is going to sest of a brushfire only a few will want to read, but I thought this was too funny not to share: QuoteRALEIGH, N.C. — President Bush on Wednesday curtly dismissed Democratic Sen. John Edwards' political skills and experience as a rival to his vice president, telling reporters "Dick Cheney can be president." Bush, campaigning in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, said he was unconcerned about the potential of Edwards to help carry states in the South — the backbone of Bush's political support. "When they go to the polls to vote for president, they'll understand the senator from Massachusetts doesn't share their values," Bush said. "I'm going to carry the South because the people understand that they share — we share values." When a reporter noted that Edwards was being described as "charming, engaging, a nimble campaigner, a populist and even sexy" and then asked "How does he stack up against Dick Cheney?" the president immediately responded, "Dick Cheney can be president. Next?" After Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry selected Edwards as his running mate Tuesday, the Bush campaign and the Republican Party immediately began criticizing Edwards' level of experience. He is serving his first term as a North Carolina senator, his only elective office after a 20-year career as a trial lawyer.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 July 7, 2004 Quote He is serving his first term as a North Carolina senator, his only elective office after a 20-year career as a trial lawyer. Because that's -so- much different than the experience level GWB had at the beginning of his term?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 July 7, 2004 Am I out there campaigning for GWB? I said it was funny. I didn't say it mattered.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 July 7, 2004 Just pointing out it's kinda the pot calling the kettle black for GWB's people to make the comment.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 July 7, 2004 Well, Dubya now has four years experience in the toughest foreign policy seat known to man. Besides. Gore really was an asshat. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myself 0 #6 July 7, 2004 QuoteBush dismisses Edwards Did you expect him to say something else ?? If Kerry's VP candidate were someone else he would be dismissed too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 July 7, 2004 Quote Well, Dubya now has four years experience in the toughest foreign policy seat known to man. True. He's also made some huge mistakes and hopefully has learned something from the experience.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #8 July 7, 2004 "Dick Cheney can be president"... That IS funny..."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #9 July 7, 2004 QuoteHe's also made some huge mistakes According to the liberals...yes. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #10 July 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteHe's also made some huge mistakes According to the liberals...yes. And (candidly) pretty much every conservative I know, even ones who work the hill. Not to mention the majority of our professional troops and reservists. And most leaders of foreign governments."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #11 July 7, 2004 QuoteAnd (candidly) pretty much every conservative I know, even ones who work the hill. Not to mention the majority of our professional troops and reservists. And most leaders of foreign governments. Interesting opinion. Probably way off the mark, however. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflying 0 #12 July 7, 2004 While I think that foreign policy experience is very important in today's environment, I don't think its as important as people make it out to be. Former President Clinton had no foreign policy experience -- yet he learned. President Bush had a bit more experience (mostly just Mexico) yet he learned. I think its more important that you have very good staff/cabinet officials who are the experts, good leadership skills, are a quick learn, are politically savvy, and can make good judgment calls (both Bush and Clinton made some BIG mistakes...). Kerry keeps touting his foreign policy experience and Vietnam experience, yet what does that mean? For the past 19 years he has been in office he has done nothing that I can think of - not saying that he can't be a good president, but I just don't think that it is the be all end all. Dick Cheney -- well he does scare me a bit NOW- but when he was nominated with BUsh the first time around, his foregin policy experience was considered a plus since Bush had none... so things go both ways i guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #13 July 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnd (candidly) pretty much every conservative I know, even ones who work the hill. Not to mention the majority of our professional troops and reservists. And most leaders of foreign governments. Interesting opinion. Probably way off the mark, however. Not even. I am still lucky enough to have most of my connections within the administration, up to and including White House staffers, and you will find that whether they support him or not, there is a general agreement that he has made some critical mis-steps. Though I may partially take back what I said about "most of the military", as my random sampling (which does BTW include both pilots and ground personnel actively engaged in the Iraqi fighting) is not that large, plus being friends they all have a tendency to travel in the same idealogical circles as myself. As far as the world leaders, read the paper. Now, what does the fact that he has made mistakes say? Not sure. Does it make Kerry a better choice? Not necessarily. Even the most vehement of Clinton supporters would be hard pressed to tell you he didn't make any big mistakes. Edited for spelling, as usual."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #14 July 7, 2004 Like I said...interesting theory you have. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #15 July 7, 2004 Not a theory, their words to my ears. Quite frankly, I have been quite surprised over the last few months over their willingness to share their opinions. For me, what it comes down to is, are you willing to stand behind your leader even though he has made mistakes. And I think that is a personal choice; but to believe that any one man is infallible to me borders on narrow-minded and dogmatic."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #16 July 7, 2004 Quotebut to believe that any one man is infallible Who said he was infallible? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #17 July 7, 2004 QuoteQuotebut to believe that any one man is infallible Who said he was infallible? Fair enough; maybe "infallible" is the wrong word; I was more referring to the inability of most (both liberal and conservative) to accept the possibility that "their" man is capable of making "big" mistakes. Edited for you-know-what."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #18 July 7, 2004 #1 Everyone is capable of mistakes...small and big. #2 He's our man. Liberal, conservative, it doesn't matter. He is our leader. Too many people forget that (not you in particuliar). People become so hell-bent on being a party sheep that they forget that in the end we're all on the same side. Bush is our leader. He is our man. You may not like him but regardless, he's the one I would follow to hell and back. I would follow Kerrey to hell and back. Just because I don't like a person doesn't mean I will give him less respect. The POTUS deserves and demands everyones respect and devotion...regardless of your political scope. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #19 July 7, 2004 Quote##2 He's our man. Liberal, conservative, it doesn't matter. He is our leader. Too many people forget that (not you in particuliar). The POTUS deserves and demands everyones respect and devotion...regardless of your political scope. You and I share a common viewpoint on this. I was lucky enough to be in DC during former President Reagan's procession, and felt priveleged to stand quietly and offer a moment of respect for the leader of the country I love. Did I agree with alot of his politics and policies? No, I did not. But that's not the point."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #20 July 7, 2004 Hmm...odd...I thought being a Governor was experience...or did Jimmy Carter come to the White House with little experience as well? GWB's response was quite funny. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 July 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteBush dismisses Edwards Did you expect him to say something else ?? If Kerry's VP candidate were someone else he would be dismissed too. As well he/they should be.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #22 July 7, 2004 respect...yes. devotion??? that's a little overkill. He's the president, not God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #23 July 7, 2004 Respect, certainly. But never devotion. Devotion is what tyrants depend on. Dissent is as essential to liberty as breath is to life.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #24 July 7, 2004 QuoteBecause that's -so- much different than the experience level GWB had at the beginning of his term? Um, yes. The President had run three campaigns in Texas (one unsuccessful, two successful), getting elected, then re-elected by some of the widest margins in memory in one of the largest states in the Union and had regular dealings with Mexico and plenty of "exposure" with his family (another Governor, and President, ex-DCI and VP incidentally).So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #25 July 8, 2004 What's the highets institution in this country (or any democracy): The People .... They are the employer of any president. ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
