Bill Cosby

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um what? I consider myself liberal. I don't save a penny for my retirement and have no pension. I'm nearly 30.

Better get going on that retirement! Soon you'll be 40 and be singing the same song....only then it will be ALOT more scary.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

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Thanks for paying mine.

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um what? I consider myself liberal. I don't save a penny for my retirement and have no pension. I'm nearly 30.

Better get going on that retirement! Soon you'll be 40 and be singing the same song....only then it will be ALOT more scary.

ltdiver

Don't you love it when someone tries to dispute what you say and ends up proving your point ?

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um what? I consider myself liberal. I don't save a penny for my retirement and have no pension. I'm nearly 30.

Better get going on that retirement! Soon you'll be 40 and be singing the same song....only then it will be ALOT more scary.

ltdiver

Don't you love it when someone tries to dispute what you say and ends up proving your point ?

eh? You said liberals think its ok not to save because they can rely on welfare. I might not have anything saved for my pension, as i stated, but where do i say "its ok, i dont care, someone else will cover my hide when i get old"? I'm SCARED by the fact i have nothing, but right now i'm too concerned about paying for my bills and the occasional bit of dz action to think "oh sure, let me just take this $300/month i don't have and put it towards my retirement fund".

I distinctly said, social security and welfare amounts to a limited existence at the best of times from what i can gather (i have never claimed anything so this isn't experience talking), and "I'm all about welfare for those UNABLE to take care of themselves - everyone else should be trying to work and contribute".

How does that amount to me proving your point?

"Skydiving is a door"
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um what? I consider myself liberal. I don't save a penny for my retirement and have no pension. I'm nearly 30.

Better get going on that retirement! Soon you'll be 40 and be singing the same song....only then it will be ALOT more scary.

ltdiver

tell me about it. I started worrying years ago. I don't have a lavicious lifestyle but i just cant seem to save money for my retirement. I even went to spoke to my bank manager about how i could do it and he was concerned i hadn't already started saving. That was 1.5 years ago! I guess i can say that i don't have a lavicious lifestyle, but if i took the money i spend jumping, and the cost of skydiving each month and put it towards retirement, i could have a lovely lifestyle to retire into at this rate (and i don't jump anywhere near as much as i should/want to). Couple that with an engagement and I guess right now priorities are elsewhere.

"Skydiving is a door"
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Looked at your profile, Newbie, but it's not complete. What do you do for a living? Think it might be time for a career change (or start)?

Looking for ways to help you out.


ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

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Bill Cosby is the man.

He is one of the best examples of black leadership I can think of.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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That was 1.5 years ago! I guess i can say that i don't have a lavicious lifestyle, but if i took the money i spend jumping, and the cost of skydiving each month and put it towards retirement, i could have a lovely lifestyle to retire into at this rate (and i don't jump anywhere near as much as i should/want to). Couple that with an engagement and I guess right now priorities are elsewhere.

If you are so scared you should quit jumping and save for retirement.

To do anything else is to sell your future to live it up in the present.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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>He is one of the best examples of black leadership I can think of.

I look foward to the day when someone like Bill Cosby is held up as an example of good leadership rather than black leadership.

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>He is one of the best examples of black leadership I can think of.

I look foward to the day when someone like Bill Cosby is held up as an example of good leadership rather than black leadership.

News flash...Bill cosby IS black.

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Bill Cosby has more harsh words for black community

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Bill Cosby went off on another tirade against the black community Thursday, telling a room full of activists that black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere."

He also had harsh words for struggling black men, telling them: "Stop beating up your women because you can't find a job."

Cosby made headlines in May when he upbraided some poor blacks for their grammar and accused them of squandering opportunities the civil rights movement gave them.

He shot back Thursday, saying his detractors were trying in vain to hide the black community's "dirty laundry."

"Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it's cursing and calling each other n------ as they're walking up and down the street," Cosby said during an appearance at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund's annual conference.

"They think they're hip," the entertainer said. "They can't read; they can't write. They're laughing and giggling, and they're going nowhere."

In his remarks in May at a commemoration of the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation decision, Cosby denounced some blacks' grammar and said those who commit crimes and wind up behind bars "are not political prisoners."

"I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said then. "And then I heard the father talk ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."

Cosby elaborated Thursday on his previous comments in a talk interrupted several times by applause. He castigated some blacks, saying that they cannot simply blame whites for problems such as teen pregnancy and high school dropout rates.

"For me there is a time ... when we have to turn the mirror around," he said. "Because for me it is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us. And it keeps a person frozen in their seat, it keeps you frozen in your hole you're sitting in."

Cosby lamented that the racial slurs once used by those who lynched blacks are now a favorite expression of black children. And he blamed parents.

"When you put on a record and that record is yelling 'n----- this and n----- that' and you've got your little 6-year-old, 7-year-old sitting in the back seat of the car, those children hear that," he said.

He also condemned black men who missed out on opportunities and are now angry about their lives.

"You've got to stop beating up your women because you can't find a job, because you didn't want to get an education and now you're (earning) minimum wage," Cosby said. "You should have thought more of yourself when you were in high school, when you had an opportunity."

Cosby appeared Thursday with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, founder and president of the education fund, who defended the entertainer's statements.

"Bill is saying let's fight the right fight, let's level the playing field," Jackson said. "Drunk people can't do that. Illiterate people can't do that."

Cosby also said many young people are failing to honor the sacrifices made by those who struggled and died during the civil rights movement.

"Dogs, water hoses that tear the bark off trees, Emmett Till," he said, naming the black youth who was tortured and murdered in Mississippi in 1955, allegedly for whistling at a white woman. "And you're going to tell me you're going to drop out of school? You're going to tell me you're going to steal from a store?"

Cosby also said he wasn't concerned that some whites took his comments and turned them "against our people."

"Let them talk," he said.

You see he is a Black man, at a Black organization sponsored event...Talking about issues with todays Black generation..

That would make him a Black leader.

Is he a leader? Yes
Does he champion Black causes? Yes.

Again that makes him a Black leader.

Bill don't be so damn PC

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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That was 1.5 years ago! I guess i can say that i don't have a lavicious lifestyle, but if i took the money i spend jumping, and the cost of skydiving each month and put it towards retirement, i could have a lovely lifestyle to retire into at this rate (and i don't jump anywhere near as much as i should/want to). Couple that with an engagement and I guess right now priorities are elsewhere.

If you are so scared you should quit jumping and save for retirement.

To do anything else is to sell your future to live it up in the present.

much as i don't want that, if it comes down to the wire it won't be my kids college education (if they so choose) or providing for my family and myself in the future that will suffer, it will be the money going on jumping.

Obviously this is plan b and i plan to somehow work out how i can do everything

"Skydiving is a door"
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much as i don't want that, if it comes down to the wire it won't be my kids college education (if they so choose) or providing for my family and myself in the future that will suffer, it will be the money going on jumping.

Obviously this is plan b and i plan to somehow work out how i can do everything

The only way of doing that (short of winning the lottery, or having a better paying job...or perhaps your sweetheart is rich? ) is to make your hobby pay -you-.

Looking at your profile, might I suggest that you connect with the school and hire on as a packer. Packers make some serious dough on a good weekend where I jump. Then you can skydive during the slow times (or days taken off from packing), and live the best of both worlds.

Just a suggestion.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

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"Bill is saying let's fight the right fight, let's level the playing field," Jackson said. "Drunk people can't do that. Illiterate people can't do that."

Oh, sweet Jesus! This is an admission from Jesse Jackson that he's been doing it all wrong these past 35 years! When Jesse Jackson says, "Let's fight the right fight" and "let's level the playing field" he seems to be saying that the war needs to be fought from within, and not against the white man.

My goodness! Is Jesse Jackson going to say, "I was wrong. What Bill suggested is wha we should have been doign all along." If Jesse Jackson says that, so help me, I will will applaud him.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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much as i don't want that, if it comes down to the wire it won't be my kids college education (if they so choose) or providing for my family and myself in the future that will suffer, it will be the money going on jumping.

Obviously this is plan b and i plan to somehow work out how i can do everything

The only way of doing that (short of winning the lottery, or having a better paying job...or perhaps your sweetheart is rich? ) is to make your hobby pay -you-.

Looking at your profile, might I suggest that you connect with the school and hire on as a packer. Packers make some serious dough on a good weekend where I jump. Then you can skydive during the slow times (or days taken off from packing), and live the best of both worlds.

Just a suggestion.

ltdiver

thanks, i do appreciate you wanting to help me out. I work full time (well mon-fri) as a project manager on an education project and come the weekend, if the weather is good and im at the dz, i only want to fun jump. I also have a p/t job as a dj tutor to young kids and occasionally do gigs, but that certainly won't pay the bills, although it's my main hobby outside of jumping, so it's nice to earn something from it. The plan in maybe several hundred more jumps is to get camera work and try to make it pay that way, but who doesn't want to try that on the dz these days?

PS if anyone's going to be making the big money it will be my sweetheart. Public sector work just doesn't pay like the private sector

"Skydiving is a door"
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