Black Jack

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Got this in an email... Just some food for thought.
Enjoy
- Dan


General "Black Jack" Pershing was born September 13th, 1860 near
Laclede, MS. He died July 15th, 1948 in Washington, D.C.Highlights of his
life
include:

1891 Professor of Military Science and Tactics University of Nebraska
1898 Serves in the Spanish-American War
1901 Awarded rank of Captain
1906 Promoted to rank of Brigadier General
1909 Military Governor of Moro Province, Philippines
1916 Made Major General
1919 Promoted to General of the Armies
1921 Appointed Chief of Staff
1924 Retires from active duty Education West Point.

Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks on the
United States forces in the Philippines by Muslim extremists. So General
Pershing captured 50 terrorists and had them tied to posts for execution.
He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the,
now horrified, terrorists. Muslims detest pork because they believe pigs
are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others
won't even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them,
eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly
barred from paradise (and those virgins) and doomed to hell.

The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pig's blood, and proceeded
to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad. The soldiers then dug a
big hole, dumped in the terrorist's bodies and covered them in pig blood,
entrails, etc.

They let the 50th man go. And for the next forty-two years, there was not
a single Muslim extremist attack anywhere in the world.Maybe it is time
for this segment of history to repeat itself, maybe in Iraq? The question
is where do we find another Black Jack Pershing?

A thunder of jets in a clear blue sky, a streak of gray and a cheerful "Hi"

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[chuckbrown 0]

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

Not clicky cuz I'm a '.tard.

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Got this in an email... Just some food for thought.
Enjoy
- Dan


General "Black Jack" Pershing was born September 13th, 1860 near
Laclede, MS. He died July 15th, 1948 in Washington, D.C.Highlights of his
life
include:

1891 Professor of Military Science and Tactics University of Nebraska
1898 Serves in the Spanish-American War
1901 Awarded rank of Captain
1906 Promoted to rank of Brigadier General
1909 Military Governor of Moro Province, Philippines
1916 Made Major General
1919 Promoted to General of the Armies
1921 Appointed Chief of Staff
1924 Retires from active duty Education West Point.

Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks on the
United States forces in the Philippines by Muslim extremists. So General
Pershing captured 50 terrorists and had them tied to posts for execution.
He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the,
now horrified, terrorists. Muslims detest pork because they believe pigs
are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others
won't even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them,
eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly
barred from paradise (and those virgins) and doomed to hell.

The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pig's blood, and proceeded
to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad. The soldiers then dug a
big hole, dumped in the terrorist's bodies and covered them in pig blood,
entrails, etc.

They let the 50th man go. And for the next forty-two years, there was not
a single Muslim extremist attack anywhere in the world.Maybe it is time
for this segment of history to repeat itself, maybe in Iraq? The question
is where do we find another Black Jack Pershing?

I like this. Awesome post.

If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

[PhillyKev 0]

I think this was handed out in a memo to the guards at Abu Ghraib.

[chuckbrown 0]

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I think this was handed out in a memo to the guards at Abu Ghraib.

What, getting locked out of two threads wasn't good enough?

Seriously though, this piece is pretty pathetic insofar as it portrays Muslims in a very poor light. Our problem isn't with Muslims per se, it's with some fucking creeps who're using the Koran as justification to cut the heads off of innocent people.

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I think this was handed out in a memo to the guards at Abu Ghraib.

I wish this was handed out at Abu Ghraid. However, I don't think it would have done any good. Unfortunately it probably going to require that a few more buildings get blown up and a lot more innocent people get beheaded before liberals like yourself remain quiet long enough for the problem to be solved.

If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

[PhillyKev 0]

I refuse to respond to trolls on the grounds that Bill may chastise me.

[Ron 10]

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I refuse to respond to trolls on the grounds that Bill may chastise me.

Hypocrisy again...you won't respond to a troll but you will troll?

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http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1137382#1137382 I think this was handed out in a memo to the guards at Abu Ghraib.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[PhillyKev 0]

That was a satirical comment to portray my disdain for the attitude idealized in the original post. Wasn't commenting on any posters.

Have a nice day, Ron.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Oh GOD yes.

[TomAiello 26]

Ron and Kev,

You guys both need to ease down a bit. Maybe take a few days off from Speaker's Corner, or something. What do you think?

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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[Ron 10]

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You guys both need to ease down a bit. Maybe take a few days off from Speaker's Corner, or something. What do you think?

Well to be honest Tom...Until he called me a lemming for being willing to complete my Army Duty...We were very civil.

But I will not have some hypocrite use the very freedoms I swore to protect against me while he makes plans to run from any obligation of duty to this country.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[TomAiello 26]

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The spineless call those with honor "lemmings"

This makes me laugh every time I see it. Have you ever seen the series of BASE videos called "Lemmings"?

Seriously, though, carrying over arguments from one thread to another will tend to make all threads you post in devolve back to the same argument. Maybe try to leave that argument in the thread where it started?

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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[Ron 10]

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This makes me laugh every time I see it. Have you ever seen the series of BASE videos called "Lemmings"?

Yes.

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Seriously, though, carrying over arguments from one thread to another will tend to make all threads you post in devolve back to the same argument. Maybe try to leave that argument in the thread where it started?

Love to, but it was locked.

And I only pointed out how he was a hypocrite in this thread..."I can't feed the trolls", but he can troll himself?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[billvon 3,120]

>And I only pointed out how he was a hypocrite in this thread..."I can't
>feed the trolls", but he can troll himself?

The issue is you can't engage in personal attacks. Even if you really, honestly think he's a hypocrite, an asshole, a communist, a terrorist or a martian.

[Ron 10]

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The issue is you can't engage in personal attacks. Even if you really, honestly think he's a hypocrite, an asshole, a communist, a terrorist or a martian.

You see me pointing out he is a Hypocrite as a personal attack? But him calling em a Lemming was not?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Zenister 0]

there is a difference between

"Your a hypocrite"

and

"your position/stance/statement etc.. is hypocritical"

Ideally you would then go on to explain how/why you made that assertion and the discussion can continue..

the first option leaves no room for discussion....

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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[wmw999 2,589]

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the first option leaves no room for discussion....

Yeah, but if they can't discuss or answer for whatever reason, then I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!

right?

chokeholds are good in these situations, too.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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>And I only pointed out how he was a hypocrite in this thread..."I can't
>feed the trolls", but he can troll himself?

The issue is you can't engage in personal attacks. Even if you really, honestly think he's a hypocrite, an asshole, a communist, a terrorist or a martian.

Is there not a difference between pointing out how someone is being a hypocrite and calling them one?

He never called Kev a hypocrite; he pointed out hypocrisy. The first use of "hypocrite" was in defending his position in discussion with TomA.

(note: I'm not saying I agree with either side, just summarizing)

However, I yet again bow to TomA. I've found requiring a number of days off is a very good thing sometimes.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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[Ron 10]

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there is a difference between

"Your a hypocrite"

and

"your position/stance/statement etc.. is hypocritical"

Ideally you would then go on to explain how/why you made that assertion and the discussion can continue..

the first option leaves no room for discussion....

Reference this post...

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1137643#1137643

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[billvon 3,120]

>You see me pointing out he is a Hypocrite as a personal attack?

Claiming he is a hypocrite (or "pointing it out", or saying "Hey, Anvil, check out that hypocrite" or any other clever way around it) is a personal attack. Talking about _views_ of his that contradict each other is not. 99% of the people here can make that distinction.

[Ron 10]

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Claiming he is a hypocrite (or "pointing it out", or saying "Hey, Anvil, check out that hypocrite" or any other clever way around it) is a personal attack. Talking about _views_ of his that contradict each other is not. 99% of the people here can make that distinction.

Ah, but since you agree with him, then him calling me a lemming is NOT a personal attack?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[PhillyKev 0]

I tried to let this drop, but you guys keep bringing it back up.

We were both wrong, Ron. We attacked each other. Do you want to go back to every single post and see who was first? I think it was you, I'm sure you think it was me. Does it really matter?

Have a nice day.

[TomAiello 26]

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Ah, but since you agree with him, then him calling me a lemming is NOT a personal attack?

One of the reasons I agreed to help moderate this forum was to provide a more "balanced" liberal/conservative spectrum in the moderation.

I agree with you, generally, on the war and the service issues.

I agree with Bill that you are having trouble telling what is a personal attack.

This isn't about who the moderators agree with/are friends with/etc.

Be warned. Bill seems quite hesitant to ban you on this issue. I'm not. It's time to drop it and move on.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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